Patrick Dangerfield - potential GOAT?

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only 2x All-Australians must have been a rubbish player according to Geelong fans.

Selectors should be ashamed of themselves.

 

[Daka]

Selectors should be ashamed of themselves.

It's why I haven't rated players based off AA for years now.

 

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Come on guys. This is a thread for Geelong people to celebrate Dangers status amongst the greats.

Personally I don’t think it’s fair to bringing up Buddy, Dusty, GAJ or or Silk. I think his been better than the likes of Sidebottom, Cotchin and Priddis. That calibre.

Good on him. Solid Career.

 

[sleep]

It's why I haven't rated players based off AA for years now.

I mean Chad ****ing Wingard has 2xAA's. Holy ****. What a joke.

 

[sleep]

Come on guys. This is a thread for Geelong people to celebrate Dangers status amongst the greats.

Personally I don’t think it’s fair to bringing up Buddy, Dusty, GAJ or or Silk. I think his been better than the likes of Sidebottom, Cotchin and Priddis. That calibre.

Good on him. Solid Career.

Buddy Franklin is the human version of a crypto coin — flashy launch, tanked when you needed him most. Built for TikTok, not September.

And “Silk”? FMD. Silk wasn’t the fabric — he was the stitched-on patch.Career built like IKEA furniture: looks nice, collapses under weight.

Meanwhile, Dangerfield’s out here like a Beserker on meth. Winning contested ball like it’s stolen treasure.

 

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Buddy Franklin is the human version of a crypto coin — flashy launch, tanked when you needed him most. Built for TikTok, not September.

And “Silk”? FMD. Silk wasn’t the fabric — he was the stitched-on patch.Career built like IKEA furniture: looks nice, collapses under weight.

Meanwhile, Dangerfield’s out here like a Beserker on meth. Winning contested ball like it’s stolen treasure.

Good attempt on the metaphors. They aren’t true though. The stealing, meth and Geelong is a good comparison though. Well done.

 

[40porpoise]

The best athlete over three past 30 years.

Comfortably in the top 10 players over the past 30 years. And in the argument for top 5 or even top 3.

 

[peetoo]

Buddy Franklin is the human version of a crypto coin — flashy launch, tanked when you needed him most. Built for TikTok, not September.

And “Silk”? FMD. Silk wasn’t the fabric — he was the stitched-on patch.Career built like IKEA furniture: looks nice, collapses under weight.

Meanwhile, Dangerfield’s out here like a Beserker on meth. Winning contested ball like it’s stolen treasure.

Sleepy hollow certainly does great differentlly

 

[PhatBoy]

Sleepy hollow certainly does great differentlly

So do you based on your insistence that a player no one else ever thinks is better than him, is in fact better than him.

 

[peetoo]

So do you based on your insistence that a player no one else ever thinks is better than him, is in fact better than him.

Projection too. I was just mentioning a player not normally in these conversations, but a more rounded skills eh
Nowhere did I put him as agreat

 

[Wojcinski]

Projection too. I was just mentioning a player not normally in these conversations, but a more rounded skills eh
Nowhere did I put him as agreat

this you?

I want to challenge how a Footballer can be described as great with below average foot skills

Give me a Shaun Burgoyne every day. More effective with a fraction of the drama

 

[sleep]

Good attempt on the metaphors. They aren’t true though. The stealing, meth and Geelong is a good comparison though. Well done.

"You're not flying **** head" - Kenny Hinkley.

 

[peetoo]

this you?

I didn’t say Burgoyne was amongst the ‘greats’

 

[Wojcinski]

I didn’t say Burgoyne was amongst the ‘greats’

You're saying you'd pick him over Dangerfield. You also put Danger 'on par with Fyfe' so I assume you also don't consider Fyfe a great?

 

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"You're not flying **** head" - Kenny Hinkley.

who is that player? Nice attempt again though.

 

[maddog37]

Just another home grown Geelong success story.

 

[STPer18]

Which current players will end up AFL Hall of Fame Legends?

Yes to Dangerfield. Unsure on Pendlebury.

www.sen.com.au

Both Kane Cornes and David King are in agreement that Patrick Dangerfield will one day be inducted as a Legend in the Australian Football Hall of Fame.

As things stand, 32 players in the game’s history have received the honour, with Jason Dunstall the most recent inductee in 2024.

Cornes: “Does Patrick Dangerfield end up as a Legend in the Australian Football Hall of Fame?”

King: “He’s a beauty, absolutely. I mean, what more do you need to do?

“He's played at the highest level for the best part of 12 years. So he will be a legend in the Australian Football Hall of Fame."

Future Hall of Famer and Legend Patrick Dangerfield has a nice ring to it.

 

[peetoo]

Who is missing from legends as it stands?

Goodes, Carey, Ablett snr might not for various reasons

Ablett jnr, Voss, Riccuto, Buckley, Franklin?

As noted there’s a few in the queue

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

Which current players will end up AFL Hall of Fame Legends?

Yes to Dangerfield. Unsure on Pendlebury.

www.sen.com.au

Future Hall of Famer and Legend Patrick Dangerfield has a nice ring to it.

It's an interesting discussion because I think as it stands, Joel Selwood has to be considered the greatest Geelong player ever (and ahead of Dangerfield as it stands in terms of future Legend pecking order), but I don't think he ever reached the "this is too easy for him, he's taking the urine" heights of Dangerfield at his peak.

 

[Lunchtime]

Thought you’d still be crying into your fruit loops

Oh hang on. You are - about something that happened half a decade ago. In a match you won

A bit like when Cat's fans still give it to Port Adelaide fans about the winning margin in the 2007 Grand Final, a match which took place 18 years ago, which Geelong won.

 

[Lunchtime]

Who is missing from legends as it stands?

Goodes, Carey, Ablett snr might not for various reasons

Ablett jnr, Voss, Riccuto, Buckley, Franklin?

As noted there’s a few in the queue

What about Andrew McLeod?

340 games
275 goals
3rd: 2000 Brownlow Medal
2nd: 2001 Brownlow Medal
2x Premiership Player
2x Norm Smith Medal
3x Club Best & Fairest
1x AFLPA Most Valuable Player
5x All Australian
Adelaide Team of the Decade
Indigenous Team of the Century

He got into the AFL Hall of Fame in 2014. Legend Status???? All I can say is that he has an impressive CV/Resume'. Awesome player. Champion.

 

[Lunchtime]

Perhaps, but doesn't his goal scoring, run & carry and contested/overhead marking mark him ahead of other contemporary greats who played a similar role to him? Which would put him ahead on the ledger overall?

And then factor in his longevity. I mean, call me crazy, but I actually give him some credit for playing - what looks like being - anywhere from 3-5 more seasons worth of high quality football than the likes of Judd, Buckley and Voss.

What do you mean by perhaps? His career Disposal Efficiency is at 65.3% which the AFL website/app deems as "Below Average" His "Kicking Efficiency" is 57.0% which is deemed as "Average". It's pretty clear Dangerfield isn't the best kick.

Anyway, he isn't the best kick so he gets a ️ in terms of his career assessment however he is a midfielder who also adds scoreboard impact and for me thats big tick ️......he averages just over a goal per game...thats very good for a midfielder.

 

[PhatBoy]

A bit like when Cat's fans still give it to Port Adelaide fans about the winning margin in the 2007 Grand Final, a match which took place 18 years ago, which Geelong won.

Well for one, we don’t ‘cry’ about that: because we won it.
I can’t recall many cats fans getting particularly upset about high fend offs from Toby Thurstans 18 seasons on from the event, can you? That’s what the reference was to. Your MENSA accredited co-supporter Smasha and his refusal to drop the campaign to retroactively suspend Dangerfield for a fend off 5 years ago.

If you’re going to try and draw an equivalency, at least try and make the competition an equal one.

You’re comparing ‘giving shit’ with having a whinge.

 

[iameviljez]

It's an interesting discussion because I think as it stands, Joel Selwood has to be considered the greatest Geelong player ever (and ahead of Dangerfield as it stands in terms of future Legend pecking order)

Selwood was a better captain, but not a better footballer. And there's some bald bloke and his Dad in front of both of them

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

What do you mean by perhaps? His career Disposal Efficiency is at 65.3% which the AFL website/app deems as "Below Average" His "Kicking Efficiency" is 57.0% which is deemed as "Average". It's pretty clear Dangerfield isn't the best kick.

Anyway, he isn't the best kick so he gets a ️ in terms of his career assessment however he is a midfielder who also adds scoreboard impact and for me thats big tick ️......he averages just over a goal per game...thats very good for a midfielder.

I mean he's a metres gained player, a line breaker: run 15-20m, then kick it 55-60m up the ground. I suspect that once you take out the players who regularly kick in for their teams, Danger would be near the top of the league for metres gained over the past 10 years, especially if we're focusing on pure midfielders. Of course you can argue that he doesn’t take kick ins because he isn't a reliable enough kick, which is correct, but he also doesn't need to, because he's a threat in the air or in a pack.

When you combine the line breaking part of his game with him being the all-time league leader for clearances and contested possessions, it gives you an idea why we probably shouldn't expect Dangerfield to be going at 90%: he gets it in traffic and when he kicks it, he'll look to use the penetration that he gets on his kicks as a weapon.

Now, my suspicion is that when Danger does his run and long kick trademark, his DE is downgraded if it goes to a pack and spills to the ground. If I'm right on that, I'd argue that it's an effective kick because the play has gained 70m of territory without turning it over. Unless it goes directly to an opponent, I think those long kicks are effective.