Roast St Kilda in no mans land

[Freomaniac]

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I agree. It's either Ross Lyon or Ken Hinkley that is the best coach in the AFL

 

[Freomaniac]

It's a sanctioned kick a club when they're down thread.

Meh.... Cuts both ways to be fair. I do recall saints fans sinking the boots on the dockers in 2016 when they were 0-10 and crippled with injuries. LoL

 

[WillHayward]

Saints should have just quietly moved the magnets around at 3/4 time against Carlton last year in round 24 and they would have Harvey Langford running around.

Ever since picking Billings ahead of the Bont the Saints have some kind of pathological aversion to drafting a pure midfielder.

If I hear one more Saints fan saying that some random half assed flanker is "going to go into the midfield in a few years" I'll spew up

 

[jumperfan]

Saints should have just quietly moved the magnets around at 3/4 time against Carlton last year in round 24 and they would have Harvey Langford running around.

Ever since picking Billings ahead of the Bont the Saints have some kind of pathological aversion to drafting a pure midfielder.

If I hear one more Saints fan saying that some random half assed flanker is "going to go into the midfield in a few years" I'll spew up

Which Saints fans are you listening to? That phrase is a massive meme on our board already, all of us want the club to draft mids. It was bad luck and the fault of draft rorts that we couldn't take any pure mids at our picks - at least none that we rated at those picks.

 

[Ian Dunross]

saints definitely need another forward target not named jack higgins. desperately need dan butler to come back, jury is out on max king since he’s presently TBA.

Club has been cursed with its top picks the last decade or so:

Billings, McCartin, Clark and Coffield and now King.

Hard to argue they were poor picks at the time, but all of them have been proven to be failures of differing degrees.

Can take a decade to remedy when you butcher your first rounders like that. The good news is that recent selections appear to be excellent in Wilson, Collard, NWM and Owens - albeit an NGA pick. Too soon to tell on Travaglia and Taure obviously.

 

[jannissary]

Club has been cursed with its top picks the last decade or so:

Billings, McCartin, Clark and Coffield and now King.

Hard to argue they were poor picks at the time, but all of them have been proven to be failures of differing degrees.

Can take a decade to remedy when you butcher your first rounders like that. The good news is that recent selections appear to be excellent in Wilson, Collard, NWM and Owens - albeit an NGA pick. Too soon to tell on Travaglia and Taure obviously.

essendon's track record hasn't been stellar (though zach reid is proving the exception).

 

[Ian Dunross]

essendon's track record hasn't been stellar (though zach reid is proving the exception).

Yep, Essendon the other club that springs to mind when talking about missing on first round picks.

 

[Pistol Night]

essendon's track record hasn't been stellar (though zach reid is proving the exception).

Caddy will be a player

 

[jannissary]

Caddy will be a player

i can't post how he makes me feel, but i'm a very big fan.

 

[Ian Dunross]

Caddy will be a player

Yeah he looks good.

Is he the first pick in the post Dodoro world?

 

[Atomboy]

Saints should have just quietly moved the magnets around at 3/4 time against Carlton last year in round 24 and they would have Harvey Langford running around.

Ever since picking Billings ahead of the Bont the Saints have some kind of pathological aversion to drafting a pure midfielder.

If I hear one more Saints fan saying that some random half assed flanker is "going to go into the midfield in a few years" I'll spew up

I don’t think we can be trusted with early draft picks, we just waste them.

We should focus on trading them out for later and/or rookie draft picks which allows us to get the likes of Marshall, Wilkie, Sinclair, Sharman, Boxshall, Owens, Garcia etc

 

[Skipper_]

Yeah he looks good.

Is he the first pick in the post Dodoro world?

Nah he was still around when we picked him up.

Kako last year the first.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

If they lose Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera they will be in strife, is really the only bright spark on their list

 

[WillHayward]

I don’t think we can be trusted with early draft picks, we just waste them.

We should focus on trading them out for later and/or rookie draft picks which allows us to get the likes of Marshall, Wilkie, Sinclair, Sharman, Boxshall, Owens, Garcia etc

Late picks and rookies have been incredible

 

[aidansbonor]

Saints should have just quietly moved the magnets around at 3/4 time against Carlton last year in round 24 and they would have Harvey Langford running around.

Ever since picking Billings ahead of the Bont the Saints have some kind of pathological aversion to drafting a pure midfielder.

If I hear one more Saints fan saying that some random half assed flanker is "going to go into the midfield in a few years" I'll spew up

I think travaglia and nwm will play mid in 2-3 years

 

[Mr.X]

Ross has to take a look at keeping more width free on the fat side, it’s stale now and easy to pick

A shake up will push different approach

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I don’t think we can be trusted with early draft picks, we just waste them.

We should focus on trading them out for later and/or rookie draft picks which allows us to get the likes of Marshall, Wilkie, Sinclair, Sharman, Boxshall, Owens, Garcia etc

Nas, Phillipou......?

 

[Atomboy]

Nas, Phillipou......?

I’ll give you those two in the last 15 years

 

[Freomaniac]

In that respect maybe Longmuir is a genius coach - developed Brayshaw, Serong, Young, Treacy, Amiss, Clark and so on.

That's a unique view to look at

 

[Freomaniac]

Club has been cursed with its top picks the last decade or so:

Billings, McCartin, Clark and Coffield and now King.

Hard to argue they were poor picks at the time, but all of them have been proven to be failures of differing degrees.

Can take a decade to remedy when you butcher your first rounders like that. The good news is that recent selections appear to be excellent in Wilson, Collard, NWM and Owens - albeit an NGA pick. Too soon to tell on Travaglia and Taure obviously.

Billings.... Yeah looked ok with his pace. Other than that he is average.

Harsh on McCartin. Not the saints fault that he is injury riddled and had concussions.

That's like saying Freo chose badly with pick 4 in 2009 when they chose Anthony Morabito . He had a solid rookie season in 2010.

Then didn't play one game from 2011-14 due to multiple injuries .

I could go on freos 1st round picks from 2007-2014. Most were average or injury prone or both.

Just proved that Ross Lyon was a bloody genius from 2012-15 dockers finals era

 

[Freomaniac]

This is a straw man. You're asserting that Lyon supporters contend that only Lyon or good coaches develop young talent.

The view or opinion that Ross Lyon never played youth is and was already thrown out the window .

I am sure you can name younger players Ross Lyon has developed from his 2nd stint from 2023 onwards.

I am more than happy to name players Ross Lyon has developed at Freo from 2012-19.

 

[Freomaniac]

Spot on.

The club is absolutely heading in the right direction.

We've taken 18 picks in the national draft across the previous 4 drafts. 8 of those picks played last night.

Prior to that, St Kilda only had 4 picks in 2 years (2019 and 2020) including only one inside the top 40.

Those 2019 and 2020 draftees would be entering their primes, instead we've got Brad Hill who deserves to be dropped.

Can't change the past. Just move forward, keep drafting and playing the kids, develop them, build strong culture so they stay, and see where we're at in 2 years time.

See there is a butterfly effect with the Brad Hill trade.

Yeah you traded a lot for Brad Hill.

But considering the situation in that 2020 Elim final win vs the dogs. Saints were not a finals hardened side in 2020.

Hill was one of the few players in your best 23 that night that had won finals.

 

[aidansbonor]

No... They really don't.

Carlton in no mans land too, yikes. Probably even worse off than the saints with their age profile as they should be contending now.

Sam Walsh 'the goat' with a miserable 3 score involvements and 100 something metres gained

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Carlton in no mans land too, yikes. Probably even worse off than the saints with their age profile as they should be contending now.

Sam Walsh 'the goat' with a miserable 3 score involvements and 100 something metres gained

Pipe down bonor

Your team's only hope of success is pinned on pinching our players and we suck almost as bad as you lot

 

[Atomboy]

Pipe down bonor

Your team's only hope of success is pinned on pinching our players and we suck almost as bad as you lot

It was our Membership slogan this year: “2025 - the year of poaching Blues and mutually assured destruction”