Review R9: The Good, Bad and the Ugly vs. Port Adelaide

[Golumless]

Thats a pretty fair reflection. If Riley had nailed those early shots, I suspect he gets BOG as he would have kicked at least 5 goals and completely dominated their defence

Swap Butters and Rozee, and I agree. Port put us to the sword in the clinches, and Butters was a big reason why.

If TT nails those shots, this game isn't close.

 

[spenze]

Even Nicks now must know the tactic was wrong and I'd bet anything he'll never do that again.

Let’s ask Nicks…

 

[FR0GGY]

He must have hated Robbie Gray, Wanganeen.

Of the current team, Rozee, Butters, JHF and DBJ must be pure scum.

JHF isn’t a stager is he? Can’t remember him ever being a flopper, I’d suggest the opposite he cops whacks and gets on with it?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

 

[Golumless]

Also means a 2nd ruck - as in back in my day - is no longer feasible UNLESS they bring something else ie forward craft

Yup, 2nd ruck is a completely dead position.

It's part of why I was really interested in Draper as a FA in the upcoming off-season if he was decently cheap (though post-Achilles, I pass). The only club that was clinging to that model in recent years was Essendon and it's not a set up conducive of good ruck performance.

 

[rocket18]

The fact we played pretty poorly, quiet games from some of our better players in Dawson, Rankine, Soligo and Neal Bullen and still managed a win can only be a good thing. Especially so when the A graders from Port, Butters, Rozee and Wines and to a lesser extend JHF all fired.

They played well, we played shit and they still couldnt win, they are cooked without Butters.

Was thinking the same thing today, we should thrash them in the next Showdown later in the year.

All their prime movers had great games and as ABAB said even Finlayson played out of his arse. They won't get anymore out of their best 4 play makers - even got a Monfries bounce goal and they still couldn't get over the line.

Whereas our prime movers were well below average, we won't get any less out of our 4 play makers ever again.

A lot of our players were down compared to their's, even DBJ and Finnalyson looked good for them.

 

[Apsaalooke]

Let’s ask Nicks…

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You’re probably right

 

[feenix67]

Oh yeah the guy that won us the game should have won us the game earlier or easier

I don't think anyone has said that. But don't let facts get in the way of your fap sesh bro

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

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What was that comparison Kingy did last year about top 8 sides versus other top 8 sides - it was something along the lines of them cumulatively having won and lost the same number of games so therefore top 8 sides versus other top 8 sides was a 50:50 proposition.

 

[Hell Boy6669]

JHF isn’t a stager is he? Can’t remember him ever being a flopper, I’d suggest the opposite he cops whacks and gets on with it?

He most definitely is, I actually think his recent haircut is going to get him less frees.

Him and butters are the kings of dropping the knees and flinging the head back.

 

[Crow till I die]

Swap Butters and Rozee, and I agree. Port put us to the sword in the clinches, and Butters was a big reason why.

If TT nails those shots, this game isn't close.

I mean we don't want to have to rely on Riley to have to win us games too often (ie we want the load shared), but to now have a genuine monster key forward that can take big contested marks and hit the scoreboard and win games for us is almost a luxury

 

[BRL121]

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Yeah, I noticed that.

 

[Crow till I die]

I probably have selective memory on this, has Port ever won goal of the year?

IIRC vaguely remember in the 2010s being upset that a Port player won it?

Not sure, but they went close for mark of the year (from our perspective anyway)

 

[cleanhands]

Not sure, but they went close for mark of the year (from our perspective anyway)

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Never gets old

 

[Trigger13]

It was really obvious that we had Port on toast in that last qtr. Then our stupid campaigner of a coach simply panicked and went way too early in shutting it down.

Now, I think they learn from that.

But after hearing Nicks talking like a politician this morning (saying a lot without saying much at all), it’s prob likely the players are just confused. All the time.

Hands down the worst coach in our history.

 

[Redleg Crow]

Port Adelaide v Adelaide​

9 Connor Rozee

1

Connor Rozee

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.6

5star

MG

189.2

3star

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.3

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

2.4

3star

MG

189.2

3star

D

16.4

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.4

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

3.4

5star

PORT
8 Riley Thilthorpe ADEL
7 Zak Butters

9

Zak Butters

Age

25

Ht

181cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.3

4star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.7

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.8

3star

D

14.7

4star

K

8.9

4star

HB

5.9

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.1

3star

D

17.0

5star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

4star

CL

0.6

3star

PORT
3 Miles Bergman PORT
2 Josh Worrell ADEL
1 Mark Keane ADEL


Hmmm.....

 

[Tex Danger]

Port Adelaide v Adelaide​

9 Connor Rozee PORT
8 Riley Thilthorpe ADEL
7 Zak Butters PORT
3 Miles Bergman PORT
2 Josh Worrell ADEL
1 Mark Keane ADEL


Hmmm.....

Nicks
5 Thilthorpe
4 Rozee
3 Butters
2 Worrell
1 Bergman


Hinkley
5 Rozee
4 Butters
3 Thilthorpe
2 Bergman
1 Keane

 

[Ciao Giacomo]

Which effectively means there is a lot of upside.

Collingwood also won yet didn’t dominate the stats. And that makes for an intriguing match this week.

Collingwood v Fremantle

Disposals 300 V 375
Inside 50s. 34 V 62
Clearances. 30. V 43
Contested Possessions 122 V 134
Uncontested Possessions 170. V. 234

What an awesome, incredibly efficient team
Wow, what an amazing coach.

Crows lose the stats but win the Showdown.
We are sooooo shiiiiiitttt
Nicks is so clueless.

 

[Crows I Am]

JHF isn’t a stager is he? Can’t remember him ever being a flopper, I’d suggest the opposite he cops whacks and gets on with it?

I've noticed he ducks his head quite often when getting tackled to try and draw the high contact fee kick.

 

[MrBarry]

JHF isn’t a stager is he? Can’t remember him ever being a flopper, I’d suggest the opposite he cops whacks and gets on with it?

Not in the sense of pretending he's been hit by a rifle, but he's constantly flinging his head around looking for high tackles.

 

[footy4ever]

Has Keane avoided suspension?

 

[FR0GGY]

I've noticed he ducks his head quite often when getting tackled to try and draw the high contact fee kick.

Soligo like then

 

[FR0GGY]

Has Keane avoided suspension?

Thrown out, not even a fine

 

[Golumless]

I mean we don't want to have to rely on Riley to have to win us games too often (ie we want the load shared), but to now have a genuine monster key forward that can take big contested marks and hit the scoreboard and win games for us is almost a luxury

Not really. We want to be going through Thilthorpe as much as possible, he is the club-defining talent after all. The challenge for Adelaide is getting the number of shots up to 5-7 per game, which puts TT in position to challenge for the Coleman and tear teams apart on the regular. He's at 4.1 per now. The good news for us is Fogarty was born to be a foil for a star key forward.

But really, the statement was more about hitting those extra 2 goals early from Thilthorpe probably deflates Port, and seeing how unreliable they are, it's a good chance they regress into an easy-kill from the hot start. Whereas we kept the game alive by our early wastefulness/ill-discipline and nearly got punched in the throat by Butters/Wines as a reward (though thankfully, Port saw our wastefulness as a challenge).

 

[BRL121]

Nicks
5 Thilthorpe
4 Rozee
3 Butters
2 Worrell
1 Bergman


Hinkley
5 Rozee
4 Butters
3 Thilthorpe
2 Bergman
1 Keane

Already noted above.