Autopsy Round 10 - West Coast v St Kilda

[StCicatriz]

One of the worst performance we've seen over here given the level of both clubs going out.

Not good.

 

[PoppedCorn]

lol i do more hrs than that in two days ffs

16 hrs
this is laughable

 

[gringo2011]

Jack Steele, our captain for what, 5 years? He wouldn’t make the leadership team in any other club in the competition

Wouldn't get a game at West Coast right now.

 

[SG34]

We've really hamstrung ourselves leaving Steele as captain this year.

100% should of just been given the opportunity to see if he could still football in '25

I just don’t know how we could drop him as captain. How? How can we ask him to step down? It won’t happen.

 

[StCicatriz]

We are a bottom 4 side. We look like Richmond in quality.

Probably similar to Essendon too. They'll play okay every now and then to tempt you back in though. We just aren't ever going to get it together are we.

I actually watched liam Ryan win a clearance against what we are told is a st kilda midfield. Then when making comment about how ****ed that is and how insulting it is he then went and won another.

This is not a midfield. We are going no where.

 

[CaptainRisky]

A loss like that adds about 150k a year onto his contract. Gonna be paying him & TDK $4 million to help us finish 10th-12th for a couple of years.

Put Steele on ice. Give King the season to sort himself out for 2026. Cheers JWeb but we have to look at the next generation.

Play Barrat & Boxshall & Tauru & Arie. Get Keeler back in. We were actually winning with him in the F50.

Why did we pick up Jack Carroll? Play him and let's see if he's worth keeping.

We know that Collard and Hall are worth persisting with. Can we give them a couple of games off and throw Patrick Said in for a block? Just for shits and giggles.

If Heath isn't ever gonna get a game then chuck Boyd in for a month and see what he can do. Same with Dodson.

If we can trade picks 2 years in advance then I'd look to bring our first rounders forward to this season. All the northern clubs will be trying to get out and I think Essendon might be as well?

Try and hit this draft with 3-4 picks in the top 20.

If Nas leaves see if we can get Butters. If not then I guess it'll be Bergman and a pick.

The Steele/RoMa/Sinc/Wilkie generation is done. They will still get games but it should be in support roles, rather than being expected to carry the team week after week.

Time to hand the squad over to the kids, churn through the list, and let them sink or swim.

Yeah let's just play every kid and get pumped by 100 points every week, that should fix the problem

 

[beside the seaside]

Just didn't feel we were up for the game from the start. That has to be on the coaches. We were soft early, they broke tackles and got their tails up as we knew they would.

If you actually look at our side though we have no good lines now. We've had a great defence the past two years but that's gone to shit. McLennan a bizarre decision, clearly not an AFL standard player but felt sorry for him being thrown in like that. May as well get Hastie in who is the future. I also liked Trav when he came on.

Forward line is a shambles too, players that can't convert standard opportunities.

Thought O'Connell tried hard again. And Hammer back is worth pursuing. But the defence needs some serious inclusions over the off-season, hopefully Tauru comes on fast.

My youngster had a big cry after the game. Real back down to earth game, gutting, but a reality check.

 

[SaintsofSteel]

Brad Hill out for Hunter Clarke is the easiest lay up available, but the club will make a statement by dropping Travaglia

I agree but I think Clark did an ankle today?

 

[PrimalConstruct]

Waiting for Ross to trot out the old 'we know what it is' again in the presser as though the loss was just a slight niggle.

 

[StCicatriz]

Literally watched garcia win the ball out of the middle running forward only for his opponent to wrap him up and strip him of the ball then proceed to take off

There's literally no point playing someone as an inside mid if they can't hold onto the pill

 

[Hubnester]

Because our coach has said it many many times

So do we know what every club does, or no? All I can find is a typical Cornes clickbait article from 2024 saying we should be forcing our players to do twice as many hours, before admitting he doesn't know what our program consists of outside of the 'contact' hours, and stops agonisingly short of actually providing an example of what 'normal' is. Which you'd think would be an obvious thing to do if the comparison was actually that far off.

 

[my name was taken]

What a privilege to attend that live...holy ****.

Don't know if decision making or skills was worse

 

[CaptainRisky]

Brad Hill out for Hunter Clarke is the easiest lay up available, but the club will make a statement by dropping Travaglia

And anyone delusional enough to think hunter is going to make much of a difference needs to check themselves in to seek the help they need

 

[BrutThough]

Lack of talls on our list is killing us. And not even quality calls, just talls overall.

 

[HeavenlySources]

Saints won’t get pick 3. They will win enough games to finish 11-12th. They will win a few games that don’t matter. Just like last year.

have to finish 17th to get pick 3 anyway, west coast will be given pick 2 for Oscar Allen and for crying poor and asking for a priority pick. Best pick we could get is pick 5 after West Coast and Richmond have selected the best four mids in the draft and we are left with the best half back or to bid on an academy player

 

[jwikked]

And anyone delusional enough to think hunter is going to make much of a difference needs to check themselves in to seek the help they need

Apparently he's injured again, but he's put up some numbers in the VFL. Needs to come in for an out of form player.

Whether he makes a material difference or not is irrelevant. This club will continue to go nowhere if it keeps players like Brad Hill in the team regardless of form.

 

[Suburbanhack]

Arrogant team selection. Despite getting killed in the air last week there was seemingly no consideration to bringing in another tall and once again our lack of height was exposed. Flynn and Williams are plodders so today was the perfect opportunity to bring in Boyd or even Heath. McLennan was hardly knocking the door down and just looks a bit lost at this level. And how much longer do we let Collard produce 5-6 possession games without any consequences? Also had zero tackles today so not sure what he brings. I get that he is a still young and learning his craft but has barely touched it all season. Even last week when he doubled up in the VFL he couldn’t get near it. I know recruiting can be a hit and miss but somehow we keep drafting players with either poor skills, no appetite for the contest or low footy IQ. People bag Jones but he has a crack, finds the footy and at least takes the game on. And Box was very stiff to get dropped while others survived.

As Albert Einstein once said "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" On the back of that effort I expect to see some changes next week.

 

[gringo2011]

Lack of talls on our list is killing us. And not even quality calls, just talls overall.

If we don't use the mid season draft we are just there to keep staff in a job.

 

[jwikked]

So do we know what every club does, or no? All I can find is a typical Cornes clickbait article from 2024 saying we should be forcing our players to do twice as many hours, before admitting he doesn't know what our program consists of outside of the 'contact' hours, and stops agonisingly short of actually providing an example of what 'normal' is. Which you'd think would be an obvious thing to do if the comparison was actually that far off.

If 16 hours was normal throughout the competition, it wouldn't be used by Lyon as a pitch to lure outside players to the club lol

 

[Dard Ball Get]

What a privilege to attend that live...holy ****.

Don't know if decision making or skills was worse

I don’t know about you but personally I am grateful to have attended and learnt so much.

Surrounded by 180 IQ eagles fans, whose intellect was only surpassed by their grace and physical presentation. A real treat!

 

[StCicatriz]

And anyone delusional enough to think hunter is going to make much of a difference needs to check themselves in to seek the help they need

Especially when they're going to replace one of our hardest runners with hunter clark who's issue is his tank. ****ing hilarious.

 

[L_W_P]

Yeah let's just play every kid and get pumped by 100 points every week, that should fix the problem

Obviously there's no need to play them all at once BUT why would we play Brad Hill for the 2nd half of the year? Why not give those games to Arie or Hastie or Trav?

If Steele is hurt, why keep pushing him? Get Box and Windy and Owens and Pou and Jack Carroll in for a few games each.

Why play a half fit King? Give Keeler and Dodson and Boyd a look at FF. Rotate them ruck with Roma as it's probably what we plan to do with him at TDK anyway.

Would you bring Howard back or give Barrat and Taurus half a dozen games each?

We've seen enough from Collard and Hall to know they are worth keeping on. So why not rest them for a couple of games each and give Patrick Said a month to see what the level is like?

We might get pumped by 100 in a few games. We might shock a few teams and snag some upset wins. We might also find a couple of solid players, ala Garcia.

One thing is for sure though: There's no point rolling out this team week after week for games to be essentially decided on 'effort'.

We need to find players with skill, ASAP, because it's going to take a few years at least to build the bodies needed to play this way week after week after week.

 

[gringo2011]

Arrogant team selection. Despite getting killed in the air last week there was seemingly no consideration to bringing in another tall and once again our lack of height was exposed. Flynn and Williams are plodders so today was the perfect opportunity to bring in Boyd or even Heath. McLennan was hardly knocking the door down and just looks a bit lost at this level. And how much longer do we let Collard produce 5-6 possession games without any consequences? Also had zero tackles today so not sure what he brings. I get that he is a still young and learning his craft but has barely touched it all season. Even last week when he doubled up in the VFL he couldn’t get near it. I know recruiting can be a hit and miss but somehow we keep drafting players with either poor skills, no appetite for the contest or low footy IQ. People bag Jones but he has a crack, finds the footy and at least takes the game on. And Box was very stiff to get dropped while others survived.

As Albert Einstein once said "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" On the back of that effort I expect to see some changes next week.

We should make them all play but let us throw rotten fruit at them as they run on. We'll lose by 130 points next week regardless

 

[jwikked]

Especially when they're going to replace one of our hardest runners with hunter clark who's issue is his tank. ****ing hilarious.

You can run as much as you want, but when you shirk every contest and turn the ball over, I'd rather give Clarke a shot in the team. Even if he plays 70% of game time.

Better than showing the rest of the list that it doesn't matter how you perform, if you're a senior player you're always going to get picked.

 

[gringo2011]

If 16 hours was normal throughout the competition, it wouldn't be used by Lyon as a pitch to lure outside players to the club lol

Seemed to predate Lyon. He was sooking about it