Have Richmond passed North and west coast

[Rich01]

Bookmarked, when you’re bottom 2 in 2027 you’ll be receiving handouts.

You seem like the type that checks his bookmarked posts on a regular basis just waiting to call someone out.

Good for you.

 

[Shueygod]

You seem like the type that checks his bookmarked posts on a regular basis just waiting to call someone out.

Good for you.

You have quadruple the posts on this site that I do, don’t know if you should throw stones.

 

[Rich01]

You have quadruple the posts on this site that I do, don’t know if you should throw stones.

Thanks for checking up on my post history.

You don’t seem like you joined long ago, going by that you’ll pass me pretty quickly.

 

[EagleMan87]

Tigers defender requests trade to Eagles

Tylar Young is set to head to West Coast

www.afl.com.au

The canary in the coal mine...

 

[captain bloodsport]

Tigers defender requests trade to Eagles

Tylar Young is set to head to West Coast

www.afl.com.au

The canary in the coal mine...

How will you blokes cope, his not under 22 years of age.

 

[EagleMan87]

How will you blokes cope, his not under 22 years of age.

 

[Obeanie1]

How will you blokes cope, his not under 22 years of age.

Considering the Eagles list needs players between 23 and 28 due to multiple early retirements........they will cope perfectly fine. Young is a McGovern short term stop gap. Pretty basic concept really.

Thats been explained by the club on multiple occassions.

But whatever YOU need to do to cope......you go ahead and keep on coping.

 

[Obeanie1]

In terms of only having 2 years in the bottom 4, minimum kids in the top 10 b&f.

I think Richmond will receive AFL assistance in 2 years time and rightly so.

Tigers will be able to stay competitive as they are based in Vic and every year players move to Vic clubs or change clubc in Melbourne. Much more active trade market. Its why they won 5 games this season.

So they may finish bottom 3 but it wont be a 1 win season, they will continue winning 5 or 7 games as they rebuild. Not because they are better at rebuilding but because they will have more players willing to be traded there.

 

[Obeanie1]

I want names.

Give me your 2 drafts worth of picks waiting to debut and 4-5 mids who are better than Lalor.

Is Lalor a mid?

Will his hammies hold up to big midfield minutes? So far its no.

 

[captain bloodsport]

Tigers will be able to stay competitive as they are based in Vic and every year players move to Vic clubs or change clubc in Melbourne. Much more active trade market. Its why they won 5 games this season.

So they may finish bottom 3 but it wont be a 1 win season, they will continue winning 5 or 7 games as they rebuild. Not because they are better at rebuilding but because they will have more players willing to be traded there.

Haha you've had more players move to you in the last 2 seasons then the tiges have. Baker, Graham, young, probably starcevic, owies.
Keep making excuses

 

[Chip Scab1]

Is Lalor a mid?

Will his hammies hold up to big midfield minutes? So far it's no.

Exactly. If his body holds up, he's Zurhaar in a collared shirt.

 

[Obeanie1]

Haha you've had more players move to you in the last 2 seasons then the tiges have. Baker, Graham, young, probably starcevic, owies.
Keep making excuses

Nankervis, Hopper, Taranto and Lynch.

All established guns who Richmond traded in. Because Melbourne is a much more active trade market.

And it will happen again.

It's basic economics. Supply and demand.

A lot of players currently play in Melbourne or would like to. Not as many are willing to move to Perth. Victoria produces half the draftees so many look to return at some point....to Melbourne. Nankervis, Hopper, Presia, Lynch, Tarranto.

If you don't get that as a given I can't help you. It's a fact.

 

[nineteen eighty]

Tigers defender requests trade to Eagles

Tylar Young is set to head to West Coast

www.afl.com.au

The canary in the coal mine...

He's a 27yo who has barely played at AFL level. Granted he showed improvement when played through the year but would be 4th or 5th in line to hold down a spot behind our other Key Backs. Gibcus's return meant he was further pushed down the pecking order.

All the best to him at West Coast.

 

[captain bloodsport]

Nankervis, Hopper, Taranto and Lynch.

All established guns who Richmond traded in. Because Melbourne is a much more active trade market.

And it will happen again.

It's basic economics. Supply and demand.

A lot of players currently play in Melbourne or would like to. Not as many are willing to move to Perth. Victoria produces half the draftees so many look to return at some point....to Melbourne. Nankervis, Hopper, Presia, Lynch, Tarranto.

If you don't get that as a given I can't help you. It's a fact.

Why do west coast supporters think i want there help.
I never said we didn't get free agents.
Victoria is a lot more active because of the amount of teams here.
Were competing with 10 other teams to get free agents.
So maybe less free agents go west, but you guys have 1 team to compete with.

I'll shed a few tears for the west coast eagles tonight, they are so hard done by.
Woe is the eagles

 

[GhostofJimJess]

How will you blokes cope, his not under 22 years of age.

Surely the Eagles must force Young through to the PSD?

They’d be mad not to, as Richmond will probably ask for about ND#20 for him.

 

[captain bloodsport]

Surely the Eagles must force Young through to the PSD?

They’d be mad not to, as Richmond will probably ask for about ND#20 for him

If we're asking pick 20 for him, they should definitely get him through the psd

 

[ShereKhan]

Prestia came 10th having played 12 games , less than Trainor, Brown, Faulk, Trezise, Sonsie, same as Ralph Smith, one more than Lalor/Dow.

Kind of ruins your argument.

Prestia averaged 2.17 votes per game. TT who won averaged 2.24/game. Vlastuin who came second averaged 2.19. So whattya know....if they all played 23 x games the top-3 would've been TT, Vlastuin then Prestia.

Jack Graham missed 5 x games and came 4th in your B&F. If he played 23 x games like Baker he would've come a very close 2nd.....who would've thought senior players playing majority of the season would figure prominently in your B&F.....like Baker, Graham, Duggan, Ryan, Cripps......

I wonder, where do you think McGovern, Yeo, Waterman and Allen would've finished if they played 20+ games? I reckon they might've finished in the top-10, don't you?

In rebuilding teams, almost every half decent senior player who plays majority of the season comes top-10 in the B&F.......it happened at the Eagles, happened at the Tigers, happened at the Roos....it's just crazy....

 

[GhostofJimJess]

If we're asking pick 20 for him, they should definitely get him through the psd

Yep, with any luck both teams play hardball and Young is forced through to the PSD. Win-win.

No real point Richmond accepting pick #50 for him.

 

[the big lebowski]

Was north the first team to apply for a priority pick?

 

[lalorGOAT]

Tigers will be able to stay competitive as they are based in Vic and every year players move to Vic clubs or change clubc in Melbourne. Much more active trade market. Its why they won 5 games this season.

So they may finish bottom 3 but it wont be a 1 win season, they will continue winning 5 or 7 games as they rebuild. Not because they are better at rebuilding but because they will have more players willing to be traded there.

North must be based in Antarctica then.

 

[bzparkes]

How will you blokes cope, his not under 22 years of age.

 

[bzparkes]

Any Richmond supporter care to explain why 11 game Lalor won best first year player, whilst 21 gamer Trainor(who was far more impressive IMO) couldn't get a look in?

Trainor completely robbed.

Lalor had 2 standout games, a few average ones and a couple where he went missing.

Trainor seemed very consistent across the whole season and ended up playing twice as many games.

 

[Obeanie1]

North must be based in Antarctica then.

They were for a time.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Any Richmond supporter care to explain why 11 game Lalor won best first year player, whilst 21 gamer Trainor(who was far more impressive IMO) couldn't get a look in?

Trainor completely robbed.

Lalor had 2 standout games, a few average ones and a couple where he went missing.

Trainor seemed very consistent across the whole season and ended up playing twice as many games.

You don't poll anything in the Richmond B & F for below average performances. Presumably this is below what the coaches perceive as AFL average.

Trainor has had a good season for a first year player, but most of his performances would have been below AFL average, as we might expect. Lalor from his 11 games would have turned in more performances above AFL average, therefore voting in more games and ultimately accumulating more votes. You don't get Richmond B & F votes for just showing up.

Lalor actually had very high rating games in 2 of his 9 matches where he played the full game. That is a very high proportion for a first year player. Murphy Reid for eg won high praise for his season and the Rising Star gong, but he did not have a game even close to Lalor's best 2 rating games, and he played forward in a better team and played 24 matches. Harley Reid in his first year only produced two very high rating games from 20 full matches, though in fairness these were another level above the performances where Lalor rated very high.

 

[bzparkes]

You don't poll anything in the Richmond B & F for below average performances. Presumably this is below what the coaches perceive as AFL average.

Trainor has had a good season for a first year player, but most of his performances would have been below AFL average, as we might expect. Lalor from his 11 games would have turned in more performances above AFL average, therefore voting in more games and ultimately accumulating more votes. You don't get Richmond B & F votes for just showing up.

Lalor actually had very high rating games in 2 of his 9 matches where he played the full game. That is a very high proportion for a first year player. Murphy Reid for eg won high praise for his season and the Rising Star gong, but he did not have a game even close to Lalor's best 2 rating games, and he played forward in a better team and played 24 matches.

I saw on the Instagram post that it's based on Jack Dyer medals votes.

I dunno, I think Trainor was way better across the season, whereas Lalor had 2 very good games but was mostly a contributor for others and little to no impact in the rest.

Sems very heavily skewed for a couple of standout performances and doesn't reward consistency whatsoever.

Basically, you could have 3-4 incredible games, then donuts for the rest of the season, whilst another player may be consistently good across the entire season and not even get a look in.

Very weird system, IMO. Surely the best first year player should actually be the best for the entire season and voted on accordingly, not just give it to a bloke for a couple of good games?