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Ranking Each Team's Best Team of this Century So Far....
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Good effort on the Crows side.
Mine would look like...
B: Hart, Rutten, Talia
HB: McLeod, Bock, Laird
C: Sloane, Ricciuto, Dawson
HF: Lynch, Walker, Dangerfield
F: Betts, Thilthorpe, Rankine
R: Jacobs, Goodwin, Thompson
I: Smith, M Crouch, Edwards, M Stevens
Sub: Vince
Jenkins probably deserves to be selected ahead of Thilthorpe on games, but Riley is more dangerous.
Mine would look like...
B: Hart, Rutten, Talia
HB: McLeod, Bock, Laird
C: Sloane, Ricciuto, Dawson
HF: Lynch, Walker, Dangerfield
F: Betts, Thilthorpe, Rankine
R: Jacobs, Goodwin, Thompson
I: Smith, M Crouch, Edwards, M Stevens
Sub: Vince
Jenkins probably deserves to be selected ahead of Thilthorpe on games, but Riley is more dangerous.
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I know other Swans fans will disagree but prior to his injury Tippett was such a great forward/ruck option, so someone who could play both and was damaging in both positions. I think he is somewhat underrated.
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Tippett's Adelaide career wasn't anything to write home about, I think Thilthorpe is already ahead despite only being there four years, and he will displace Jenkins within two years in my opinion.
They have a star studded line up but the reasons are well documented as to why they haven't won a flag since 1998.
Also not that I could be arsed to do it as it sounds like a lot of work but I would love to see each teams 21st century team made up of players that have never received an All Australian. Would be interesting to see which team would be best.
Nice effort. I don't strongly disagree with anything regarding Geelong, but these would be my changes and why:
FB: Stewart Scarlett Milburn
HB: Enright Taylor Mackie
C: Holmes Selwood Bartel
HF: Miers Cameron Chapman
FF: Johnson Hawkins Stengle
R: Ottens Dangerfield Ablett
IC: C.Guthrie Blicavs Corey Kelly
Mackie > Harley: there's already a full set of aerial interceptors but the defence lacks the run and dash of Mackie between the arcs. The "down the highway" run-and-gun stuff often involved Mackie.
Holmes > Ling: Lingy was a champ, especially when Geelong were poor or building. I realise it's early for Holmes (and his most recent game spraying it everywhere is fresh in people's minds) but he's won back-to-back BnFs in the 2nd best team in the comp for the 2024-2025 period. Once as a defender/utility, once as a midfielder. He was also hugely important to our change in gameplan for the 2022 premiership, with a massive 2nd half of the season on the wing. One of our best runners ever. Extreme pace. Easy choice on a wing and he's actually played there a lot.
Miers > Mooney: Blicavs covers 2nd ruck duties and Ottens can swing forward. As far as team balance, the prolific creator at half forward works better than putting in someone as third tall who never actually played third tall. Career wise, Miers has been important in keeping Geelong contending and has been in our top few most important players over the past 4 year period.
Ottens > King: It's 21st century only, so it removes King's strong 90s work. King was All Australian this century too, but his peak ended after that and Ottens was hugely important for our 3 flags. Plus he can swing forward and kick a goal, releasing Cameron further up the field.
Edit: Duncan is very unlucky not to make it, but it's really difficult to know who to exclude. Possibly Kelly, Corey, Blicavs or Holmes* (*for now).
Anyway like I said, great job. There are things I disagree with for each team but that's expected from person to person.
FB: Stewart Scarlett Milburn
HB: Enright Taylor Mackie
C: Holmes Selwood Bartel
HF: Miers Cameron Chapman
FF: Johnson Hawkins Stengle
R: Ottens Dangerfield Ablett
IC: C.Guthrie Blicavs Corey Kelly
Mackie > Harley: there's already a full set of aerial interceptors but the defence lacks the run and dash of Mackie between the arcs. The "down the highway" run-and-gun stuff often involved Mackie.
Holmes > Ling: Lingy was a champ, especially when Geelong were poor or building. I realise it's early for Holmes (and his most recent game spraying it everywhere is fresh in people's minds) but he's won back-to-back BnFs in the 2nd best team in the comp for the 2024-2025 period. Once as a defender/utility, once as a midfielder. He was also hugely important to our change in gameplan for the 2022 premiership, with a massive 2nd half of the season on the wing. One of our best runners ever. Extreme pace. Easy choice on a wing and he's actually played there a lot.
Miers > Mooney: Blicavs covers 2nd ruck duties and Ottens can swing forward. As far as team balance, the prolific creator at half forward works better than putting in someone as third tall who never actually played third tall. Career wise, Miers has been important in keeping Geelong contending and has been in our top few most important players over the past 4 year period.
Ottens > King: It's 21st century only, so it removes King's strong 90s work. King was All Australian this century too, but his peak ended after that and Ottens was hugely important for our 3 flags. Plus he can swing forward and kick a goal, releasing Cameron further up the field.
Edit: Duncan is very unlucky not to make it, but it's really difficult to know who to exclude. Possibly Kelly, Corey, Blicavs or Holmes* (*for now).
Anyway like I said, great job. There are things I disagree with for each team but that's expected from person to person.
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FB: Howe - Clement - Maynard
HB: H Shaw - Moore - Crisp
C: Sidebottom - Buckley (C) - J Daicos
HF: Didak - T Cloke - Swan
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R: Grundy - Pendlebury (VC) - N Daicos
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Johnno Hay had 1 great year for us. Lake is easily ahead of him @ FB. Otherwise it's a good list.
I am going to have a bit of fun and using the OP's teams create a team using the best lines, so which teams have the best lines
FB: T.STEWART, M.SCARLETT, T.HARLEY (Geelong)
HB: C.ENRIGHT, H.TAYLOR, D.MILBURN (Geelong)
C: N.LAPPIN, S.BLACK, H.MCCLUGGAGE (Brisbane)
HF: A.GOODES, B.HALL, R.O’KEEFE (Sydney)
FF: M.LE CRAS, J.KENNEDY, PH.MATERA (West Coast)
R: D.COX, C.JUDD, B.COUSINS (West Coast)
Int: B.RATTEN, B.GIBBS, N.STEVENS, E.CURNOW (Carlton)
FB: T.STEWART, M.SCARLETT, T.HARLEY (Geelong)
HB: C.ENRIGHT, H.TAYLOR, D.MILBURN (Geelong)
C: N.LAPPIN, S.BLACK, H.MCCLUGGAGE (Brisbane)
HF: A.GOODES, B.HALL, R.O’KEEFE (Sydney)
FF: M.LE CRAS, J.KENNEDY, PH.MATERA (West Coast)
R: D.COX, C.JUDD, B.COUSINS (West Coast)
Int: B.RATTEN, B.GIBBS, N.STEVENS, E.CURNOW (Carlton)
Nah, I'm leaning towards a spot for Marcus Ashcroft on the bench.
For his contributions both on the field & off the field for the Lions.
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Agree with all except id probably go sydneys FF line and definitely not carlton’s interchange!
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I'm taking Hawthorn's FF line every time
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Better than just solid!
Just need to check their finals records to see the difference
Gunston 47 goals in 20 finals
Breust 26 in 20
Franklin (at Hawthorn) 46 in 14
Matera 6 in 9
Lecras 17 in 15
Kennedy 40 in 17
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Phil Matera played in a lot of bad West Coast teams (just like now, am I right?!?!), so finals isn't really a fair metric. He also retired on the eve of the 2005 Grand Final.
Of course the Hawks trio have more.
What?
The Hawthorn trio vs West Coast trio:
All Australians: 12 - 5
Goals: 2173 - 1573
Looking at Breust and Gunston vs LeCras and Matera alone:
All Australians: 4-2
AA squad: 10-3 (not around for Matera - you'd add '04)
Goals: 1107 - 830
50+ goal seasons: 8-5
40+ goal seasons: 14 - 9
Of the 4, Gunston and Brest are 1 and 2 for AA's, AA squad, goals, goal assists, 50+ seasons and 40+ seasons. More than solid I think and that's ignoring the superior finals record, the obvious Franklin > Kennedy and the fact that Gunston is still going (and just came off his best season with 73 goals - which is 10+ more than LeCras or Matera ever managed).
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He did get picked for the 2005 GF as he was coming back from injury and yeah looking at it some of those finals were smashing that would be hard for a small forward
I thought I could play, Matera
It wasn't so much about Matera's finals record and more that Gunston in particular has stood up in so many big finals that they deserve to be rated higher especially when the comment was they were just solid
Just adding to my post above...
But Gunston and Breust are both on 550+ goals. Neither LeCras or Matera ever made it to 450 goals.
Breust is only behind Betts and Milne in the AFL era for goals by a small forward (and has 800 goal contributions! - goals + assists). Gunston just past him (by 1 goal) and is still going...
In fact, Gunston and Breust would be 2nd and 3rd on West Coast's all time goal tally!
They'd also be 1st and 2nd for assists!
(and given the poster I'm responding to is a Sydney supporter, had Gunston and Breust spent their careers at Sydney, they would be 1st and 2nd on your all time goal leaderboard, and 1st and 3rd for assists)
They've certainly been more than solid!
(Also not meaning to take anything away from LeCras or Matera who were both fine players but Gunston and Breust have been a class above, as their record demonstrates).
But Gunston and Breust are both on 550+ goals. Neither LeCras or Matera ever made it to 450 goals.
Breust is only behind Betts and Milne in the AFL era for goals by a small forward (and has 800 goal contributions! - goals + assists). Gunston just past him (by 1 goal) and is still going...
In fact, Gunston and Breust would be 2nd and 3rd on West Coast's all time goal tally!
They'd also be 1st and 2nd for assists!
(and given the poster I'm responding to is a Sydney supporter, had Gunston and Breust spent their careers at Sydney, they would be 1st and 2nd on your all time goal leaderboard, and 1st and 3rd for assists)
They've certainly been more than solid!
(Also not meaning to take anything away from LeCras or Matera who were both fine players but Gunston and Breust have been a class above, as their record demonstrates).
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