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Caruso with some of his finest work as usual, 2 second round picks to move up a few spots for a guy that was rated at about pick 20 anyway. Nuts how many picks the guy has burnt the past few years trying to be clever. Taylor is a good pick up don't get me wrong, but eventually this silliness will come back to bite.
What if only 2-3 players indicate they are likely to stay long term at the giants? That would mean that the number of picks isn’t as important as the longevity of their commitment to stay.

You are assuming him trading up is to get higher picks, maybe it’s just to secure one of the few prospects that want to actually play at our ground in front of those crowds

Just wait till tassie gets in…. Nobody will want to stay there and the problem will be even worse
 
Just wait till tassie gets in…. Nobody will want to stay there and the problem will be even worse

That's what they said about us. Everyone assumed we would have the retention problems and the Gold Coast would be fine.

We ended up with a much better retention rate than they did in the first decade.

It's not about location, it's about club culture. Tassie gets that right and they'll be fine.
 
What if only 2-3 players indicate they are likely to stay long term at the giants? That would mean that the number of picks isn’t as important as the longevity of their commitment to stay.

You are assuming him trading up is to get higher picks, maybe it’s just to secure one of the few prospects that want to actually play at our ground in front of those crowds

Just wait till tassie gets in…. Nobody will want to stay there and the problem will be even worse

Yeah I don't think it's really as big of an issue as people think. People love playing at the club now days, they rarely lose talent and often players would prefer to go to the giants than over to Perth or other places.

I reckon Caruso gets obsessed every year with one player in the draft and would sell his own grandmother to get that player. This is fine one year in every 5 or 10, but drafting is about sheer weight of numbers on the amount of talent you bring to the club over time. The actual hit rate of guys that play over 100 games in the afl is tiny. If Taylor doesn't work out, that's a whole year where the club has brought zero young talent into the club, premiership teams don't even risk that.

If he was a recruiter at a big club he would be absolutely smacked from pillar to post by the fanbase for burning all this draft capital annually. Also remember the swans player bid, two second rounders to move up a few spots in the draft order for a guy not even predicted to go in the first round? just lucky the swans matched. Taylor I think is a good fit but it wasn't worth a first rounder and two second rounders for a bloke that was slated to go end of first round, if that and not a smart strategy every year which it seems to have become.
 
It will be interesting with our late picks whether there's anyone who might be considered draftable talent whom we would consider taking onto the list, rather than upgrading Madden.

I figure Stringer will be selected, and likely Madden upgraded, but we've made late selections when someone was left undrafted unexpectedly (Ricca and Seek are two who come to mind).

Perhaps a Fred Rodriguez or similar who gets overlooked.

We will only know when it occurs; I can't imagine Caruso would say "well, we were going to draft X until he was taken the pick before ours". Likely it doesn't happen though.
 

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Yeah I don't think it's really as big of an issue as people think. People love playing at the club now days, they rarely lose talent
Wonder if this could be a by-product of the drafting approach we've taken under the current team?

Taylor I think is a good fit but it wasn't worth a first rounder and two second rounders for a bloke that was slated to go end of first round
I never understand the logic with these statements, we saw Nairn and Pickett jump up from 'end of first round' picks to draft night invitees, these things constantly evolve and clubs view prospects differently having access to pysch's, GPS data and behind the goals vision, whereas a large portion of the media/ General punters watch highlights and get boners over disposal numbers, no one reporting on the draft has half as much of an idea as they like to think
 
SSP.selections go normally to the primary list so dont we have to leave a spot on the primary.for.Laverde.
No, SSP selections can go on to the rookie list.
 
That's what they said about us. Everyone assumed we would have the retention problems and the Gold Coast would be fine.

We ended up with a much better retention rate than they did in the first decade.

It's not about location, it's about club culture. Tassie gets that right and they'll be fine.
Tassie will be a bit like us , they will struggle to attract 22-26 they will not be a huge player in but older players will be happy enough to go there to collect some well paid super. They should focus mainly on country kids and building a strong culture….just like us!
 
His job is to build a list, he has built a terrific list by continuing to bring in good players.
It's not about draft picks or where they are rated it's about using your hand to get the team you want.
WE had 1 list spot and filled it with the type of player we wanted.
I much rather this approach than what SOS and Dodoro do and focus on being the trade winner.
Spot on. Caruso literally said at the final Members Connect they would trade up if they had an opportunity to ensure they get the player they wanted. They never get into "winning" trades. Bidding on the Swans academy player was the cherry on top.
 

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Watched Caruso interview on Giants.Website.

He says.they have 1 available list spot.

That could mean

They take a live pick tonight plus.Laverde on.PL and.Stringer and Stone are rookies

But it could mean.Madden is elevated.

Who knows
 
Watched Caruso interview on Giants.Website.

He says.they have 1 available list spot.

That could mean

They take a live pick tonight plus.Laverde on.PL and.Stringer and Stone are rookies

But it could mean.Madden is elevated.

Who knows
Hopefully Caruso does!

I would hope they are open-minded in case someone slips through who is reasonable.

Maybe a Cody Curtin or a Fred Rodriguez doesn't get selected, and Caruso goes "You know what, he's worth a punt at pick #66!"

If no-one's there that they rate, then just go Stringer & Madden.
 

TRADES COMPLETED DURING 2025 AFL DRAFT
Gold Coast Suns receive Pick 35. GWS receives 2026 second-round pick (tied to Melbourne)
GWS Giants receive Pick 14. Hawthorn receives Pick 16 and a 2026 second-round pick

Comment: If we kept Melbourne's 2nd round pick and gave Hawks our own 2nd round pick, it's a better outcome for us.
I was wondering what happened to our second round pick and was hoping we traded to next year and Melbourne I think will be bottom 6 with no Petracca and no Oliver
 
What if only 2-3 players indicate they are likely to stay long term at the giants? That would mean that the number of picks isn’t as important as the longevity of their commitment to stay.

You are assuming him trading up is to get higher picks, maybe it’s just to secure one of the few prospects that want to actually play at our ground in front of those crowds

Just wait till tassie gets in…. Nobody will want to stay there and the problem will be even worse
So tassie coming in helps us, GWS is better for say 8 years than Tassie for 8 years as a player.
Hopefully Tom Harley sees the benefits of helping GWS.
 

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