Have Richmond passed North and west coast

[Happy Mastenator]

"Only", I believe it.

I would ask for a 2027R1 alongside Reid in exchange for McKercher if it were on the table.

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy...ayerStatus2=A&tid2=13&pid2=7155&fid2=C&type=A

I get that you have Reid and not much else, so that makes him more important. But he'd be a medium forward for us, I can't imagine he'd get any CBA. Like none.

Again, not meant to be offensive to the Big Birds but if a neutral didn't have that opinion, I'd put it down to watching football, just not seeing it.

 

[Shueygod]

2025 average goal assists per game

Harley Reid 0.3 (18th at west coast)

George Wardlaw 0.8 (2nd at North)

Thats almost triple

Next

2025 disposal efficiency
Harley Reid 69.1%
Geoerge Wardler 61.3%

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Kick efficiency a bigger discrepancy.

 

[the big lebowski]

2025 disposal efficiency
Harley Reid 69.1%
Geoerge Wardler 61.3%

Next

And yet Harley Reid still ranked 18th at west coast for goal assists

18th. That’s pretty low.

Whereas George ranked 2nd at north. That’s pretty high.

Thyme stats say he’s 3 and times better at Harley for setting up goals.

Reid does average 4.5 turnovers per game though. That’s impressive and puts Wardlaws 3.5 to shame.

It’s even more than Kerch at 4.3 and he torches the footy

 

[the big lebowski]

Kick efficiency a bigger discrepancy.

0.8 goal assists per game vs 0.3

It’s right there mate

Almost triple

 

[bzparkes]

And yet Harley Reid still ranked 18th at west coast for goal assists

18th. That’s pretty low.

Whereas George ranked 2nd at north. That’s pretty high.

Thyme stats say he’s 3 and times better at Harley for setting up goals.

Reid does average 4.5 turnovers per game though. That’s impressive and puts Wardlaws 3.5 to shame.

It’s even more than Kerch at 4.3 and he torches the footy

Hmm, Wardlaw tackles more I guess. Harley also kicked more than 3x more goals. 14 > 4

 

[Shueygod]

And yet Harley Reid still ranked 18th at west coast for goal assists

18th. That’s pretty low.

Whereas George ranked 2nd at north. That’s pretty high.

Thyme stats say he’s 3 and times better at Harley for setting up goals.

Reid does average 4.5 turnovers per game though. That’s impressive and puts Wardlaws 3.5 to shame.

It’s even more than Kerch at 4.3 and he torches the footy

Probably because Harley kicks the goals instead, goal assists are a notoriously poor stat.

If you want to see who’s better at “setting up goals” look at their score involvements and kick threat rating, both of which Harley far outperforms Wardlaw.

I don’t know why you’re bothering to even argue this, it’s not up for debate. Reid is very clearly a better kick than Wardlaw.

 

[Shueygod]

0.8 goal assists per game vs 0.3

It’s right there mate

Almost triple

That difference is practically made up in the amount of goals they kick, almost like one of them is confident enough to have the shot.

 

[the big lebowski]

Probably because Harley kicks the goals instead, goal assists are a notoriously poor stat.

Harley came 7th in your average goal per game

 

[Shueygod]

“a measure of how often a player’s kicks result in a shot at goal later in the chain compared to expectation.”

Wardlaw is 8th last for players with >15 disposals a game and a minimum of 5 games.

8th last out of 222 players.

Yet north fans want to act like he’s a good kick.

 

[the big lebowski]

“a measure of how often a player’s kicks result in a shot at goal later in the chain compared to expectation.”

Wardlaw is 8th last for players with >15 disposals a game and a minimum of 5 games.

8th last out of 222 players.

Yet north fans want to act like he’s a good kick.

0.8 goal assists per game

0.3 for Harley Reid

it’s there in black and white and doesn’t require “later in the chain vs expected”

It just measure what happened

 

[bzparkes]

0.8 goal assists per game

0.3 for Harley Reid

it’s there in black and white and doesn’t require “later in the chain vs expected”

It just measure what happened

How do you feel about Harley kicking 3x more goals than Wardlaw?

 

[Shueygod]

0.8 goal assists per game

0.3 for Harley Reid

it’s there in black and white and doesn’t require “later in the chain vs expected”

It just measure what happened

So Reid and Hewett (and Wardlaw) are all better kicks than Sheezel?

 

[nineteen eighty]

I won't get into the p1ssing match between the 3 clubs but it's good to see North supporters up and about given the year in, year out disappointment they have endured over the last decade(ish).

The Tiges are 1 year into a rebuild. One year. We may not have passed North but I will back our player development and rebuild transition path over North's any day. We're at least supporting our kids with senior players across every line. Rather than what North did by throwing them in the deep end with little to no support. Stalled player development for years. Which coincidentally is what the Suns did when they were first developed. All kids...little to no mature players around them.

See you next year.

 

[the big lebowski]

How do you feel about Harley kicking 3x more goals than Wardlaw?

I mean, Harley does spend time forward doesn’t he?

He’s a gun

No one said different

I don’t need to talk down oppo players like some

But clearly,

1: wardlaw and Reid are in the same conversation (we’re having it right now)

2: wardlaws kicking is not as bad as some would have you believe

 

[Chip Scab1]

0.8 goal assists per game vs 0.3

It’s right there mate

Almost triple

Spent 1/2 year at HB, still 3x lol

I get the McKercher doubt, up until the chat with Clarko mid-year, I'd almost agree with them. But since the chat mid year when he started playing midfield a bit, please. It's not even close.

 

[Shueygod]

Spent 1/2 year at HB, still 3x lol

I get the McKercher doubt, up until the chat with Clarko mid-year, I'd almost agree with them. But since the chat mid year when he started playing midfield a bit, please. It's not even close.

That’s not Mckerchers stats you clown.

 

[Shueygod]

I mean, Harley does spend time forward doesn’t he?

He’s a gun

No one said different

I don’t need to talk down oppo players like some

But clearly,

1: wardlaw and Reid are in the same conversation (we’re having it right now)

2: wardlaws kicking is not as bad as some would have you believe

Make a poll on Reid vs Wardlaw, 99% of non North fans are taking Reid.

That shows they don’t belong in the same conversation.

Just because it’s being had to correct ignorant one eyes north fans doesn’t mean it’s worthy.

Goal assists is the worst way to define kicking ability I’ve seen, by your logic Sheezel is the worst kick in the league.

 

[bzparkes]

I mean, Harley does spend time forward doesn’t he?

He’s a gun

No one said different

I don’t need to talk down oppo players like some

But clearly,

1: wardlaw and Reid are in the same conversation (we’re having it right now)

2: wardlaws kicking is not as bad as some would have you believe

I'd say Wardlaw's kicking can be very inconsistent but that seems a byproduct of him trying to kick whilst running full tilt. Kid needs to slow down before kicking. Kinda just slams it on the boot. Seems ok when he's not doing that.

 

[the big lebowski]

Make a poll on Reid vs Wardlaw, 99% of non North fans are taking Reid.

That shows they don’t belong in the same conversation.

Just because it’s being had to correct ignorant one eyes north fans doesn’t mean it’s worthy.

Goal assists is the worst way to define kicking ability I’ve seen, by your logic Sheezel is the worst kick in the league.

Ok mate

 

[the big lebowski]

I'd say Wardlaw's kicking can be very inconsistent but that seems a byproduct of him trying to kick whilst running full tilt. Kid needs to slow down before kicking. Kinda just slams it on the boot. Seems ok when he's not doing that.

It’s very inconsistent

 

[Chip Scab1]

That’s not Mckerchers stats you clown.

Shueyfraud (there's more proof that Reid is the goat than there is of any god), what are you referencing?

3x goal assists from half back v HFF? Yeah of course your fraud (he is until he proves he's not, which he hasn't) gets bit fitter when his contract is up and wants out. We'll revisit this when that occurs.

 

[bzparkes]

Shueyfraud (there's more proof that Reid is the goat than there is of any god), what are you referencing?

3x goal assists from half back v HFF? Yeah of course you're fraud (he is until he proves he's not, which he hasn't) gets bit fitter when his contract is up and wants out. We'll revisit this when that occurs.

Those stats are Wardlaw's, not McKercher's.

Go back and read the actual convo.

 

[Shueygod]

Ok mate

Do you disagree?

If goal assists is some great indicator as your claiming.

Explain Harry Sheezel averaging 0.26Ga from 15 kicks and 3.5 inside 50s?

 

[Chip Scab1]

Those stats are Wardlaw's, not McKercher's.

Go back and read the actual convo.

I know McKercher has your fraud covered. Wardlaw about the same as Reid but faster. Same sort of inherent fraudulence, mind.

 

[Shueygod]

Shueyfraud (there's more proof that Reid is the goat than there is of any god), what are you referencing?

3x goal assists from half back v HFF? Yeah of course your fraud (he is until he proves he's not, which he hasn't) gets bit fitter when his contract is up and wants out. We'll revisit this when that occurs.

Mckercher doesn’t average 3x the goal assists of Reid.

They average the same.

How embarrassing.