Have Richmond passed North and west coast

[bzparkes]

What happened with Kellaway in the end? Nominated but passed up on.

Didn't come on as expected this year? There were puff pieces on the Richmond site as recently as the end of September.

 

[THE_GUN]

North Melbourne's own Dustin Martin

We were so close to unravelling you lol

LOl i think Dusty owned North

We Carr did play them well

 

[Rich01]

LOl i think Dusty owned North

We Carr did play them well

There was a guy on this forum that got Dusty to sign his sons Norf jumper in 2017 and was convinced because of that he was going to be a kanga.

Whipped himself up to a frenzy to Sept then when Dusty signed with the Tigers had a few mad ass posts then disappeared.

Hope the dude has recovered and out of wherever he should have been placed in. It’s only a game after all.

 

[THE_GUN]

There was a guy on this forum that got Dusty to sign his sons Norf jumper in 2017 and was convinced because of that he was going to be a kanga.

Whipped himself up to a frenzy to Sept then when Dusty signed with the Tigers had a few mad ass posts then disappeared.

Hope the dude has recovered and out of wherever he should have been placed in. It’s only a game after all.

Probably crapping on and Signed it himself

 

[ShereKhan]

I sleep well knowing you've seen 2, I've seen 2 and we're infinitely closer to 3 than you, despite you being 3x bigger.

I know Richmond fans, the majority are tradies and live in Scoresby or further east, it's ok, my sister married a jungle-themed onesie wearer. I know all about you.

You waited 35 years for a flag and won 3, shame you could only see 2. You also got to see GWS so really only 1/2 a flag. Not like you saw your team beat Carlton or a Sydney. Genuine hateful organisations. You waited all that time and you got 2 expansion clubs one being the Crows who are actually likeable. That would have me on suicide watch.

Roos have finished bottom-3 for 6-years in a row. Richmond from 1982-2016 never did it more than 3 times. GWS and GC have never finished bottom-3 more than 3-years in a row. Neither did Demons or Blues in their multiple years of incompetence...

Roos have racked up 6.....6....hahahhhaa.

And this is in an 18-team comp, so bottom-3 is worse than in days of 12-16 x teams.

If the Roos can't get out of the bottom-3 when they've been gifted charity after charity (Ben McKay compo & compo picks galore), and had access to a gazillion top-3 picks via 6 x consecutive bottom-3 finishes, then it would be a miracle.

You can't NOT improve with so many low finishes and charity handouts...it's impossible to NOT become a quality team...and Roos are not only yet to become a quality team...they are yet to exit the bottom-3. It's actually laughable.

If we are bottom 3 in 2029 for the sixth year in a row I'd be too embarrassed to be getting chirpy about my team.

 

[bzparkes]

Probably crapping on and Signed it himself

People lying on the internet for clout?

Surely not....

 

[ShereKhan]

Whitlock looked a level above in VFL games hence why he debuted. Passing 20 possessions a lot of the time down back and intercepting, as well as using it well by foot. When forward kicking multiple goals on occasions as well. Definitely trolling here

I've missed a lot of the commentary here, but for tall players VFL performances mean very little. We had Kozi have a game with 26 touches and 4 goals this year. We've had Samson Ryan absolutely dominate at VFL level at times over his career, both in the ruck and up forward. His debut season in 2021 included:

8 disposals, 5 marks, 3 goals / 3 hit outs
14 disposals, 6 marks, 2 goals / 14 hit outs
12 disposals, 6 marks, 4 goals / 2 hit outs
12 disposals, 6 marks, 1 goals / 33 hit outs
16 disposals, 5 marks, 3 goals / 20 hit outs

In just his second season of 2022 he had back to back games of:

20 disposals, 8 marks, 3 goals & 29 hit outs
18 disposals, 12 marks, 5 goals & 14 hit outs

Samson Ryan looks a bust despite some really great VFL performances throughout his career.

El Nour is a key back who isn't on an AFL list...games in 2025 included:

20 disposals and 2 marks
21/4
20/4
22/6
17/9
18/10
20/7
22/6
24/8

Of course it's good to play well, but I wouldn't put much weight on VFL numbers as there's a gazillion tall players who can't make it at AFL level who have very impressive numbers in the VFL.

Whitlock may be an excellent AFL player in time, who knows? But I'd largely ignore VFL numbers.

 

[ShereKhan]

Interested to see how it plays out this year between these three teams.

Lots of games between these teams this year so we will get a good indication as to where they sit.

In the 7th year of their rebuild Roos should be easily the best team of the three in 2026. Their 'young' midfielders they'll be hoping form their next flag team and games played:

North:
LDU: 130
Powell: 91
Scheezel: 67
McKercher: 39
Wardlaw: 39
FOS: 22

Tigers:
McCaluiffe: 14
Lalor: 11
Hotton: 7
Smillie: 0
Cumming: 0
Grlj: 0

Then they have Xerri with 76 games in ruck, whilst Sims has 11.

So the Roos midfield should easily account for the Tigers midfield in 2026, and I'd expect them to win more games than the Tigers as they are 3-4 x years further advanced in their list build.

But the balance of the Tigers list into the future looks a lot better, as I don't see enough talent for the Roos outside their midfield.

 

[the big lebowski]

In the 7th year of their rebuild Roos should be easily the best team of the three in 2026. Their 'young' midfielders they'll be hoping form their next flag team and games played:

North:
LDU: 130
Powell: 91
Scheezel: 67
McKercher: 39
Wardlaw: 39
FOS: 22

Tigers:
McCaluiffe: 14
Lalor: 11
Hotton: 7
Smillie: 0
Cumming: 0
Grlj: 0

Then they have Xerri with 76 games in ruck, whilst Sims has 11.

So the Roos midfield should easily account for the Tigers midfield in 2026, and I'd expect them to win more games than the Tigers as they are 3-4 x years further advanced in their list build.

But the balance of the Tigers list into the future looks a lot better, as I don't see enough talent for the Roos outside their midfield.

what happened to Tarranto, hopper banks and ross? 1st, 3rd, 7th and 8th in your b&f

They taking the year off?

 

[Chip Scab1]

Roos have finished bottom-3 for 6-years in a row. Richmond from 1982-2016 never did it more than 3 times. GWS and GC have never finished bottom-3 more than 3-years in a row. Neither did Demons or Blues in their multiple years of incompetence...

Roos have racked up 6.....6....hahahhhaa.

And this is in an 18-team comp, so bottom-3 is worse than in days of 12-16 x teams.

If the Roos can't get out of the bottom-3 when they've been gifted charity after charity (Ben McKay compo & compo picks galore), and had access to a gazillion top-3 picks via 6 x consecutive bottom-3 finishes, then it would be a miracle.

You can't NOT improve with so many low finishes and charity handouts...it's impossible to NOT become a quality team...and Roos are not only yet to become a quality team...they are yet to exit the bottom-3. It's actually laughable.

If we are bottom 3 in 2029 for the sixth year in a row I'd be too embarrassed to be getting chirpy about my team.

I've missed it, I spent 3/8 years in South America, and 9/10ths of the winters there. I have seen about 10 games this decade, one of them being a 10 goal romp of the Dees. Another being a 1 point loss to the Pie.

It's ok, you deal in facts, I can accept your position, but it's 2026 next, let's see how Norf goes once their best players hit 21. You'll be sick of us in no time. Relax.

 

[Senor M]

lol which one is it? Norf don't have to "go past", we already infinitely closer than you. You've had what, 3-4 cracks at this rebuild and still going backwards with your decent older players (Merrett) wanting out.

Jy Simpkin exploring bombshell move away from North

The captain has four years to run on his contract but has harboured frustrations over his role in the team.

7news.com.au

 

[Chip Scab1]

Jy Simpkin exploring bombshell move away from North

The captain has four years to run on his contract but has harboured frustrations over his role in the team.

7news.com.au

Señor, Merrrett is well-loved by them, Simpkin would be no loss to us, I'd uber him to Tulla (uber-pool obvio).

He's the anti-Cotchin in my eyes.

 

[HBFlanker]

In the 7th year of their rebuild Roos should be easily the best team of the three in 2026. Their 'young' midfielders they'll be hoping form their next flag team and games played:

North:
LDU: 130
Powell: 91
Scheezel: 67
McKercher: 39
Wardlaw: 39
FOS: 22

Tigers:
McCaluiffe: 14
Lalor: 11
Hotton: 7
Smillie: 0
Cumming: 0
Grlj: 0

Then they have Xerri with 76 games in ruck, whilst Sims has 11.

So the Roos midfield should easily account for the Tigers midfield in 2026, and I'd expect them to win more games than the Tigers as they are 3-4 x years further advanced in their list build.

But the balance of the Tigers list into the future looks a lot better, as I don't see enough talent for the Roos outside their midfield.

Yeah i mean the Roos havent lost to Richmond for a while so i would expect they would be supremely confident going in to those games.

Even with players like Taranto, Baker, Lynch, Bolton etc leadign the charge over the past couple of years

 

[HBFlanker]

North - 10th-15th
Richmond 13th-17th
Weagles 17th-18th

IMO.

If richmond finish 13th it would be an incredible effort.

My guess is they win less games in 2026 than they did in 2025

 

[tiger_tough]

If richmond finish 13th it would be an incredible effort.

My guess is they win less games in 2026 than they did in 2025

I think it'll be around the same. Probably 4-6.

I wouldn't be upset if it is a couple wins less than this year as long as our percentage improves.

 

[Obeanie1]

None of those Norf players have proven a thing. Whitlock looked horribly outside his depth even at vfl level for the most part. He keep crapping on about Richmond players having proved nothing but they’ve all shown 100x more than Whitlock

All have shown 100x more?

Smille hasn't even played a game. Needed surgery on his quad after struggling with hamstring issues.

What has he shown to date?

There is a very good reason why the Tigers picked two quality legit mids with theirtwo top picks this draft.

If they lose Nankervis and Taranto for a long period they finish 18th. Bookmark it.

 

[THE_GUN]

All have shown 100x more?

Smille hasn't even played a game. Needed surgery on his quad after struggling with hamstring issues.

What has he shown to date?

There is a very good reason why the Tigers picked two quality legit mids with theirtwo top picks this draft.

If they lose Nankervis and Taranto for a long period they finish 18th. Bookmark it.

And if eagles lose Reid & Baker they finish 18th

Richmond is in no hurry for Smillie to play in 2026

We are in year 2 of a rebuild not year 5

 

[Aido97]

All have shown 100x more?

Smille hasn't even played a game. Needed surgery on his quad after struggling with hamstring issues.

What has he shown to date?

There is a very good reason why the Tigers picked two quality legit mids with theirtwo top picks this draft.

If they lose Nankervis and Taranto for a long period they finish 18th. Bookmark it.

I never mentioned Smillie?

 

[Disco Dew]

We are in year 2 of a rebuild not year 5

The way some have been going on in here the rebuild was one and done.

 

[THE_GUN]

The way some have been going on in here the rebuild was one and done.

Rebuilds are not ever done before 5/6 years in modern day football
If it takes longer than 7 years thats usually a failed rebuild and resets are in play - e.g Carlton , Essendon etc

Brown paper bag days are finished

 

[Obeanie1]

Fair enough.

So Wardlaw has hurt his hammy 2 in 3 years at afl level. There was talk that his 2025 injury was the other leg, but that was unconfirmed.

Lalor has hurt it 2 in 1 year at afl level. (Or 3 times in 12 months)

Alarming

Lalor pre draft has a serious tendon hammie injury.

In his first season he tweaked it again.....twice. The final one he was put in cotton wool and was described as 'serious'.

Basically a young body ramping up training loads and pushing the hammies a bit too far.

Luke Shuey hardly played in his first 3 seasons due to recurring hamstring issues. So young bodies sometimes just need a slower build up to AFL workload levels.

 

[Obeanie1]

I never mentioned Smillie?

You said all the Tigers kids have shown 100 x more.

ALL.

Is Smillie not a Tigers kid?

 

[Obeanie1]

The way some have been going on in here the rebuild was one and done.

And that's the crux of it.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

And if eagles lose Reid & Baker they finish 18th

Richmond is in no hurry for Smillie to play in 2026

We are in year 2 of a rebuild not year 5

Well in that scenario do we get Yeo back? Because if he plays 22 games we are a better team than last year.

 

[Chip Scab1]

None of those Norf players have proven a thing. Whitlock looked horribly outside his depth even at vfl level for the most part. He keep crapping on about Richmond players having proved nothing but they’ve all shown 100x more than Whitlock

To who? I have no idea who you're talking about.

We have injured players who have played 0 games who have more talent than EVERY kid you have.

So we ****ing should, we've been doing this since 2018.