Recruiting AFL Trade & Free Agency XIII

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[jdstorm]

Do a current best 22 - so Robey, Langers, Ridley, Martin all outside plus Hayes, Bryan, Edwards, Jones, maybe sideline caddy too

b: Nguyen McKay Blakiston
hb: Redman Reid Roberts
c: Duursma Parish Fiorini
hf: Durham Gerryn Perkins
f: May Wright Kako
r: Vissentini Merrett Caldwell
int: Johnson Clarke Sharp Guelfi Prior


Yeah your right a fast half forward still makes sense.....but Kickett was picked up in the rookie draft.

OF the small forwards listed on rookie me. All were drafted....except wes Walley

SMALL-MEDIUM FORWARDS:


Lachy Dovaston | Eastern Ranges | 178cm | 29/05/2007 North
Hussien El Achkar | Calder Cannons | 171cm | 02/04/2007 Dons
Leon Kickett | Swan Districts | 173cm | 07/11/2007 Freo
Jesse Mellor | Geelong Falcons | 185cm | 04/01/2007 Geelong (cat B)
Cameron Nairn | Central District | 188cm | 15/10/2007 Hawks
Zane Peucker | Woodville-West Torrens | 179cm | 04/12/2007 Richmond
Wesley Walley | Subiaco | 182cm | 29/11/2007 (Eagles NGA passed, now training at the Blues)
Tylah Williams | Swan Districts | 175cm | 22/02/2007 Eagles

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You seem to have left the new skip A McGrath out of your best 23

 

[King Patty]

There is always one forgotten.

 

[Keystone agony]

Hire him as an assistant for this role. Our midfield has no defensive accountability.
We need to move on from players like Setters, Ridley and Cox.

Your going to be culling alot of players and your teams going to be very young for a long time and down the bottom for a long time more

You need senior bodies to help protect the kids, otherwise they just become what these guys are and you rinse/repeat

Like hes still played 106 games in the last 7 years (1 of those years a 17 game season - covid)

 

[faible]

Your going to be culling alot of players and your teams going to be very young for a long time and down the bottom for a long time more

You need senior bodies to help protect the kids, otherwise they just become what these guys are and you rinse/repeat

I'm not sure the midfield desperately needs experienced bodies.

Merrett, Parish, Durham, Caldwell have all played more games than Setterfield. Fiorini and Duursma likely our starting wingmen and both have more games than Setterfield. Fiorini can play as a centre bounce mid if needed, as can McGrath.

Our midfield is imbalanced, not necessarily inexperienced.

 

[joey_jo_jo]

Your going to be culling alot of players and your teams going to be very young for a long time and down the bottom for a long time more

You need senior bodies to help protect the kids, otherwise they just become what these guys are and you rinse/repeat

Like hes still played 106 games in the last 7 years (1 of those years a 17 game season - covid)

Really dont know why you keep arguing this point, every pro argument you put forward is purely hypothetical as he isnt getting on the park enough to adequately provide these qualities to the team.
Quoting 106 games in 7 years really isnt a great argument in favour of keeping him, thats 15 games a year, and if you drill down to last 5 years hes only averaging 9.6 games.

 

[Keystone agony]

Really dont know why you keep arguing this point, every pro argument you put forward is purely hypothetical as he isnt getting on the park enough to adequately provide these qualities to the team.
Quoting 106 games in 7 years really isnt a great argument in favour of keeping him, thats 15 games a year, and if you drill down to last 5 years hes only averaging 9.6 games.

Dont believe your numbers are taking into account VFL games there. Hes played 24 games VFL during that time, so the avg is far more than 9.6

I think 13-16 games and then months more of training and being around the group is adequate as an avg, with the upside of more. I say adequate because of how inexperienced we are as a whole, even more so as big mids

I dont think inexperience, youth, talent is the issue with this group, it is nuturing, developing, leading, training them with some motivated experience around them, that all going well has upside of giving 3-4 years of service if they deserve it and we feel the need for it. He just gives greater flexibility going forward and we need to have the ability to be agile if Zerrett request to depart again in 12 months time

Durham, Zerrett, Caldwell, Parish, Sharp are really only our mids for next year, thats including a 1st year kid, there isnt much leeway for injuries here or elsewhere

 

[faible]

I think 13-16 games and then months more of training and being around the group

Should have just kept this guy

Todd Goldstein of the Essendon Bombers Player Profile and AFL Stats

Todd Goldstein of the Essendon Bombers profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

 

[Westlo]

Good to see Setters has a new manager and he's apart of Big Footy.

 

[joey_jo_jo]

Should have just kept this guy

Todd Goldstein of the Essendon Bombers Player Profile and AFL Stats

Todd Goldstein of the Essendon Bombers profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

or kept kelly and played him in the midfield!

 

[EnolaGay]

Not sure if it's been discussed yet, but what chance Setters gets a spot with Marto on LTI, as a back-up, big bodied mid?

 

[Don Won]

Not sure if it's been discussed yet, but what chance Setters gets a spot with Marto on LTI, as a back-up, big bodied mid?

It’s worth thinking about, but what never gets thought about is, could his body hold up? How many games can we realistically expect per year? (Advanced calculus only in answers please)

 

[Call Me Cake]

Good to see Setters has a new manager and he's apart of Big Footy.

Apart? Which means he did a 360 and walked away

 

[Duckworth]

Apart? Which means he did a 360 and walked away

180.

 

[Old Campaigner]

Dont believe your numbers are taking into account VFL games there. Hes played 24 games VFL during that time, so the avg is far more than 9.6

I think 13-16 games and then months more of training and being around the group is adequate as an avg, with the upside of more. I say adequate because of how inexperienced we are as a whole, even more so as big mids

I dont think inexperience, youth, talent is the issue with this group, it is nuturing, developing, leading, training them with some motivated experience around them, that all going well has upside of giving 3-4 years of service if they deserve it and we feel the need for it. He just gives greater flexibility going forward and we need to have the ability to be agile if Zerrett request to depart again in 12 months time

Durham, Zerrett, Caldwell, Parish, Sharp are really only our mids for next year, thats including a 1st year kid, there isnt much leeway for injuries here or elsewhere

I reckon if we are looking for injury cover we could probably do better than a bloke who is only a 50-50 chance of being available when called upon. It really defeats the who purpose. If we're ok with those odds then we might as well use the spot on a development prospect who is only a 50-50 chance of being AFL standard when an injury strikes.

 

[Keystone agony]

I reckon if we are looking for injury cover we could probably do better than a bloke who is only a 50-50 chance of being available when called upon. It really defeats the who purpose. If we're ok with those odds then we might as well use the spot on a development prospect who is only a 50-50 chance of being AFL standard when an injury strikes.

Not that also fits the criteria of being as good as him, genuine big mid, that also has 4 years left with his experience

Hes also far better than 50/50 hes played 106 games from his last 156 available, thats more 70/30 than half but the foot injury does have to be considered, but he seems ready far earlier than initally expected

 

[EnolaGay]

It’s worth thinking about, but what never gets thought about is, could his body hold up? How many games can we realistically expect per year? (Advanced calculus only in answers please)

God damn it, I hadn't even thought about his ability for his body to hold up in a season. That does open up a real debate on Setter in or not, doesn't it?

 

[Old Campaigner]

Not that also fits the criteria of being as good as him, genuine big mid, that also has 4 years left with his experience

Hes also far better than 50/50 hes played 106 games from his last 156 available, thats more 70/30 than half but the foot injury does have to be considered, but he seems ready far earlier than initally expected

I feel like you're setting a pointlessly high bar to try to defend what was a silly thing to suggest originally. We're talking injury cover, they need to fit when called upon and that's about it. If we need a mature-ish body there's probably some 20yo in the VFL with some scope for development and no injury baggage we can grab. Or we use it as an opportunity to give one of the new draftees some exposure.

If Setterfield actually had the combination of quality, time left and freedom from injury you allege he possesses he'd still be on a list.

 

[ghostdog]

I feel like you're setting a pointlessly high bar to try to defend what was a silly thing to suggest originally. We're talking injury cover, they need to fit when called upon and that's about it. If we need a mature-ish body there's probably some 20yo in the VFL with some scope for development and no injury baggage we can grab. Or we use it as an opportunity to give one of the new draftees some exposure.

If Setterfield actually had the combination of quality, time left and freedom from injury you allege he possesses he'd still be on a list.

Jackson Hately could play for a year. That would be fine.

 

[Old Campaigner]

Jackson Hately could play for a year. That would be fine.

Yeah, or maybe there's someone in the backline who has played a bit of midfield in the past who could chop out for a bit.

Plenty of options that make more sense than a broken down Setterfield.

 

[boncer34]

Not that also fits the criteria of being as good as him, genuine big mid, that also has 4 years left with his experience

Hes also far better than 50/50 hes played 106 games from his last 156 available, thats more 70/30 than half but the foot injury does have to be considered, but he seems ready far earlier than initally expected

How many in the seniors?

 

[Keystone agony]

I feel like you're setting a pointlessly high bar to try to defend what was a silly thing to suggest originally. We're talking injury cover, they need to fit when called upon and that's about it. If we need a mature-ish body there's probably some 20yo in the VFL with some scope for development and no injury baggage we can grab. Or we use it as an opportunity to give one of the new draftees some exposure.

If Setterfield actually had the combination of quality, time left and freedom from injury you allege he possesses he'd still be on a list.

The bar is either not pointlessly high or Setterfield is reaching it

Yes but are the 18yr kids going to listen to some guy with no AFL experience, is he going to be able to play big inside for significant chunks of the year? These are the questions i have for that

The kids are going to get exposure already, there is plenty of room. All fit after 80% PS and theyre all playing R1

Im far from saying Setterfield is amazing, were talking about last spot on a list here and i dont see a better player out there for a young trio of 18 yr old big mids along with what else he can offer. He was only delisted due to the 4 MSDs and early re signing of Edwards. I think there was always an idea to potentially add him back to the list if HEA got through to rookie or if we only took 3 instead of 4 live picks excl NGA

Just hope were wary of our situation, we are crazy inexperienced and its probably only going to get worse in the next year

I think we leave it there, clearly there is a difference of view, the forum here think another kid, whereas i think Setterfield will be better value for this group

 

[fairbump_playon]

I’m not saying we should sign him necessarily but Setterfield has had a random spray of injuries, it’s not one body problem

He could play 22 games

Ridley with a million hamstrings is in a different category of injury prone

I’d have Setters in the mix and pick him up if we can’t get better talent

I’d rather talent who is 70% likely to be there than a dud who is “definitely” going to be around. Who we all know will likely get injured anyway.

 

[boncer34]

I’m not saying we should sign him necessarily but Setterfield has had a random spray of injuries, it’s not one body problem

He could play 22 games

Ridley with a million hamstrings is in a different category of injury prone

I’d have Setters in the mix and pick him up if we can’t get better talent

I’d rather talent who is 70% likely to be there than a dud who is “definitely” going to be around. Who we all know will likely get injured anyway.

Setterfield isn't likely to be there 70% of the time though.

 

[Old Campaigner]

Setterfield isn't likely to be there 70% of the time though.

But but but he’s Big and can offer experience to the rest of the rehab group

 

[King Patty]

It’s worth thinking about, but what never gets thought about is, could his body hold up? How many games can we realistically expect per year? (Advanced calculus only in answers please)

I think the issue is, he will have a delayed start.
By then Sharp may be embedded into the team and Setterfield will only be playing VFL or cover when Sharp needs a rest, or to cover injuries. But those opportunities could be given to others like Robey etc.