Strategy 2019 - Best 22 & Player Discussion

[Monument Hills]

extrapolating my best 22 for R1:

1st bloke left not inj by start of season | taller lad not inj (yet) | skinny kid not inj that can play on small forwards

a running bloke not inj | 2nd tallest that isn't inj | anyone not inj who has a decent kick


not inj kid whose legs still go quick | Fyfe with a broken leg | March recruit to replace Bennell


Walters with a bung knee | Hogan in a moon boot | a short guy that isn't inj

a ruck that has working calves | well it won't be tabs - he'll be inj too | Ballas (you can't tell if he's inj)


Sandi on one leg | Brayshaw in a helmet | Cerra's mate 'cause Cerra did a shoulder at training in March

Bench: Danyle Pearce (he's never inj) | Peter Bell (he does everything at the club now) | johnny docker | Halselby in a LazyBoy

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[Joao]

Nobody seems to be getting "too worried" at all. It is a legitimate discussion point.

I imagine that in three years time, at the end of his contract, Giro isn't going to be a lot fitter than he is now. He just won our 2km time trial. His extension for me is justified if the club sees him as in or on the cusp of best 22. At least that is how I read it. I'm not disappointed or especially critical of that either, but I am a little surprised as to me he seemed a bit further off than that.

"Discussing it" to the length you are and trying to make a deal out of it is the "too worried" part.

 

[theGav56]

"Discussing it" to the length you are and trying to make a deal out of it is the "too worried" part.

What would you do on discussion threads in the off season when some news happens? Chat about crumpets...?

 

[Joao]

What would you do on discussion threads in the off season when some news happens? Chat about crumpets...?

I don't know, just be happy for the boys maybe.

 

[Deathly]

Been awhile, updated based on projected injuries / likely injuries / remaining pre-season form / inevitable R1 Ballantyne lock:

Pearce Hamling Ryan
Logue Wilson Duman

Darcy Mundy Brayshaw
Conca Fyfe BHill

Langdon Taberner Walters
Ballantyne Hogan Lobb

Cerra Colyer Banfield Tucker

Not exactly my B22, just what I think the club will go with.

Expecting some early debuts and some good competition for spots early.

 

[theGav56]

I don't know, just be happy for the boys maybe.

I am very happy for them, as my posts have been saying. Also adding that for Giro it is an indication that they see him as likely in the best 22 (you know...the title of the thread). Duman of course is already in that arc.

 

[theGav56]

Been awhile, updated based on projected injuries / likely injuries / remaining pre-season form / inevitable R1 Ballantyne lock:

Pearce Hamling Ryan
Logue Wilson Duman

Darcy Mundy Brayshaw
Conca Fyfe BHill

Langdon Taberner Walters
Ballantyne Hogan Lobb

Cerra Colyer Banfield Tucker

Not exactly my B22, just what I think the club will go with.

Expecting some early debuts and some good competition for spots early.

Colyer over Bewley? Not that they are necessarily competing for a spot.

Ballantyne?

They would be my two main questions for you.

 

[Daddoo]

extrapolating my best 22 for R1:

1st bloke left not inj by start of season | taller lad not inj (yet) | skinny kid not inj that can play on small forwards

a running bloke not inj | 2nd tallest that isn't inj | anyone not inj who has a decent kick


not inj kid whose legs still go quick | Fyfe with a broken leg | March recruit to replace Bennell


Walters with a bung knee | Hogan in a moon boot | a short guy that isn't inj

a ruck that has working calves | well it won't be tabs - he'll be inj too | Ballas (you can't tell if he's inj)


Sandi on one leg | Brayshaw in a helmet | Cerra's mate 'cause Cerra did a shoulder at training in March

Bench: Danyle Pearce (he's never inj) | Peter Bell (he does everything at the club now) | johnny docker | Halselby in a LazyBoy

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Nailed.It.

I seriously laughed out loud when I read this. Cheers Monument!


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[theGav56]

extrapolating my best 22 for R1:

1st bloke left not inj by start of season | taller lad not inj (yet) | skinny kid not inj that can play on small forwards

a running bloke not inj | 2nd tallest that isn't inj | anyone not inj who has a decent kick


not inj kid whose legs still go quick | Fyfe with a broken leg | March recruit to replace Bennell


Walters with a bung knee | Hogan in a moon boot | a short guy that isn't inj

a ruck that has working calves | well it won't be tabs - he'll be inj too | Ballas (you can't tell if he's inj)


Sandi on one leg | Brayshaw in a helmet | Cerra's mate 'cause Cerra did a shoulder at training in March

Bench: Danyle Pearce (he's never inj) | Peter Bell (he does everything at the club now) | johnny docker | Halselby in a LazyBoy

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Nice. Bit surprised Coulda didn't get a run though.

 

[332docker]

My RD1 team (based on current injuries):\

Think we will be cautious on Hogan

Pearce Hamling Ryan
Cox Wilson Duman

Darcy Mundy Fyfe
Colyer Langdon BHill

McCarthy Taberner Walters
Ballantyne Lobb Matera

Cerra Brayshaw Banfield Bewley

 

[Deathly]

Colyer over Bewley? Not that they are necessarily competing for a spot.

Ballantyne?

They would be my two main questions for you.

Like I said, not necessarily my B22 but I think that's what the club will select if things continue the way they are from this point. Bewley and North will be our first AFL debutants, I think Switkowski or a rejuvenated Matera will take Ballantyne's spot pretty quickly so getting Ballantyne out of the way quickly and ruling him out is fine by me. Regarding Colyer we wouldn't be recruiting a 27 year old and not trying him in the main squad from the get go either. Need his type to try compensate the young bodies physically and provide some on-field experience.

 

[Purpletown]

My RD1 team (based on current injuries):\

Think we will be cautious on Hogan

Pearce Hamling Ryan
Cox Wilson Duman

Darcy Mundy Fyfe
Colyer Langdon BHill

McCarthy Taberner Walters
Ballantyne Lobb Matera

Cerra Brayshaw Banfield Bewley

I like that side given the expected availability of injured players. Ballas, Lobb and Matera in the full forward line could work very well. I don't expect Ballas to get a lot of games this year but that is worth a go in the season opener.

That bench is a thing of beauty too. It's been a long time since we have had that kind of talent right down to the last man picked.

 

[yyou]

I like that side given the expected availability of injured players. Ballas, Lobb and Matera in the full forward line could work very well. I don't expect Ballas to get a lot of games this year but that is worth a go in the season opener.

That bench is a thing of beauty too. It's been a long time since we have had that kind of talent right down to the last man picked.

I'd swap Ballantyne for Cerra, so we can have all B's on the bench. The B team if you like.

 

[Heart Of Purple]

Surprised with how many have Hogan at FF, the guys a CHF is he not? Played midfield for periods last year, I would've thought he'd play a bit higher up?

 

[PurpleReign]

My RD1 team (based on current injuries):\

Think we will be cautious on Hogan

Pearce Hamling Ryan
Cox Wilson Duman

Darcy Mundy Fyfe
Colyer Langdon BHill

McCarthy Taberner Walters
Ballantyne Lobb Matera

Cerra Brayshaw Banfield Bewley

Logue looks outstanding at training, I’d say he is ahead of Duman. I like Duman though, he’s the fringe player I’d most like to see become first 22. Maybe Logue and Duman are both ahead of Cox, in terms of team balance. (This is why I never post a predicted best 22 )

 

[Lach72]

Surprised with how many have Hogan at FF, the guys a CHF is he not? Played midfield for periods last year, I would've thought he'd play a bit higher up?

I have him in a pocket

 

[theGav56]

Logue looks outstanding at training, I’d say he is ahead of Duman. I like Duman though, he’s the fringe player I’d most like to see become first 22. Maybe Logue and Duman are both ahead of Cox, in terms of team balance. (This is why I never post a predicted best 22 )

Logue is a certainty. The question for Duman is about balancing out the backline, but with our injuries, his flexibility is going to be pretty useful. Both in the round 1 team for me.

 

[yyou]

My enduring memory of Duman to date was formed at the MCG when Richmond bollocked us.
Prior to the game I had read on here about how quick he was, but the memory I have is of him chasing one of the Tiger small forwards who had the ball & ran away from him with ease.
It looked as if the Richmond player was running on a travelator while Duman was wearing cement shoes in quicksand!
Can someone on here confirm that it was an anomaly & that he is indeed quick, as someone with his build needs a point of difference IMO, please?

 

[theGav56]

My enduring memory of Duman to date was formed at the MCG when Richmond bollocked us.
Prior to the game I had read on here about how quick he was, but the memory I have is of him chasing one of the Tiger small forwards who had the ball & ran away from him with ease.
It looked as if the Richmond player was running on a travelator while Duman was wearing cement shoes in quicksand!
Can someone on here confirm that it was an anomaly & that he is indeed quick, as someone with his build needs a point of difference IMO, please?

Being quick doesn't mean that you are the fastest player on the field.

In your example, isn't his point of difference that he is 192cm playing on a small forward?

 

[Joao]

My enduring memory of Duman to date was formed at the MCG when Richmond bollocked us.
Prior to the game I had read on here about how quick he was, but the memory I have is of him chasing one of the Tiger small forwards who had the ball & ran away from him with ease.
It looked as if the Richmond player was running on a travelator while Duman was wearing cement shoes in quicksand!
Can someone on here confirm that it was an anomaly & that he is indeed quick, as someone with his build needs a point of difference IMO, please?

Ran a 2.9 something at his combine. Of course that is only 20 or 30 meters (can't remember which) so he could just be fast off the mark but not quick over distance.

 

[yyou]

Being quick doesn't mean that you are the fastest player on the field.

In your example, isn't his point of difference that he is 192cm playing on a small forward?

yes that is different, but was he any good at it, or was he found out due to a lack of pace, therefore more suited to the bigger opponents, who would then have the muscle over him.
As for being the fastest on the field, the brief piece of play I have stuck in my head made him look like the slowest.
I hope it is an erroneous memory as he seems a good user of the ball, both decision wise & with respect to execution.

 

[Square Peg]

yes that is different, but was he any good at it, or was he found out due to a lack of pace, therefore more suited to the bigger opponents, who would then have the muscle over him.
As for being the fastest on the field, the brief piece of play I have stuck in my head made him look like the slowest.
I hope it is an erroneous memory as he seems a good user of the ball, both decision wise & with respect to execution.

There's your answer
Anyone remember Jetta running away from MJ on the SCG from halfway to the goalsquare a few years back, one of the most painful things I've seen, but it wasn't what MJ was there for. I know MJ was playing a bit more as a tall than Duman will, but Duman can provide the same decision making, you can't train that shit, some guys just have it.

 

[Joao]

If I am playing Duman (which I would) he is doing something similar to Llllllllooooooooyyyyyyd or the Duffman.

Pretty sure he was decent intercept player as a junior but obviously needs some more body before rolling that out at AFL level. I would prefer it if he could mind a man of size 180-190 rather than intercepting.

 

[theGav56]

yes that is different, but was he any good at it, or was he found out due to a lack of pace, therefore more suited to the bigger opponents, who would then have the muscle over him.
As for being the fastest on the field, the brief piece of play I have stuck in my head made him look like the slowest.
I hope it is an erroneous memory as he seems a good user of the ball, both decision wise & with respect to execution.

I just think that is about the coach getting the match ups right. Tall, player, good user, good decision maker. All good qualities for best 22.

 

[Heart Of Purple]

Could he be a tall winger or potentially inside player after bulking up a bit? Little bit of Mundy about him?