Top 3 players ever from each club

[Roddy]

Lethal, Tucky, Hodge

 

[PhatBoy]

Apples and oranges. Bradman stats, and the rest of the world agreeing, make him an untouchable. On top of that he played internationals against quality.
You are talking a time when it was part time suburban comp.

‘Part timers in a suburban comp’ yet you’ve cited a largely amateur cricketer who played in two countries and at 10 venues his entire career, and against 4 opponents, one of them 37 times out of his 52 matches.

Do you not think that the part timers in a suburban comp puts everyone on the same level, same as what they would all be on if they were growing up 60 years later as semi or fully professional in a national comp?

The term is ‘relativity.’

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

In your era, In your opinion

Adelaide - Riccuito, McLeod, Modra
Brisbane - Voss, Neale, Akermanis
Carlton - Williams, Silvagni, Koutifides
Collingwood - Pendy, P.Daicos, Buckley
Essendon - Hird, Salmon, Lloyd
Fremantle - Fyfe, Pavlich, Farmer
Fitzroy - Roos, Osborne, Lynch
Geelong - Ablett Snr, Ablett Jnr, Dangerfield
Gold Coast - Rowell, Miller
GWS - Greene, Cameron Ward
Hawthorn - Dunstall, Hodge, Brereton
Melbourne - Gawn, Lyon, Jakovich
North - Carey, Longmire, Archer
Port - Tredrea, Wanganeen, Rosee
Richmond - Martin, Richardson, Cotchin
Saints - Lockett, Harvey, Riewoldt
Sydney - Kelly, Goodes, Franklin
Western - Grant, Bontempelli, Libertore Snr
West Coast - Judd, Matera, Cousins

Hudson and Matthews with Dunstall. Knights a close 4th, sensational player.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Would list my three Tigers but there are four of them

Hart, Bartlett, Richardson, Martin.
Impossible to leave any of those off.

 

[Robroy22]

Greening, Rose, P.Daicos (Pendles, Bucks would be 4 and 5)

 

[faible]

‘Part timers in a suburban comp’ yet you’ve cited a largely amateur cricketer who played in two countries and at 10 venues his entire career, and against 4 opponents, one of them 37 times out of his 52 matches.

Do you not think that the part timers in a suburban comp puts everyone on the same level, same as what they would all be on if they were growing up 60 years later as semi or fully professional in a national comp?

The term is ‘relativity.’

This, you can only really assess someone relative to their peers.

Modern day AFL players are a totally different beast, as good as someone like Dangerfield is now, if you dropped him in to football 50 years ago he'd be head and shoulders above anyone else in the league.

Transport Nat Fyfe back in time to 1963 and he's ruckman sized.

Lance Franklin stands out more relative to his peers than Lockett or Dunstall did as well from memory.

 

[Colonial]

‘Part timers in a suburban comp’ yet you’ve cited a largely amateur cricketer who played in two countries and at 10 venues his entire career, and against 4 opponents, one of them 37 times out of his 52 matches.

Played at the peak against the world.
We are talking a time there was no peak but multiple state based comps.

Do you not think that the part timers in a suburban comp puts everyone on the same level, same as what they would all be on if they were growing up 60 years later as semi or fully professional in a national comp?

No I don’t think that at all.

The term is ‘relativity.’

You can call it what you want but no guarantee they would hit the peaks with full time training in a national comp.

Now once again I never said they definitely wouldn’t. I was originally replying to someone having a whinge because people were only adding players from eras they had seen.

 

[PhatBoy]

Played at the peak against the world.
We are talking a time there was no peak but multiple state based comps.

No I don’t think that at all.

You can call it what you want but no guarantee they would hit the peaks with full time training in a national comp.

Now once again I never said they definitely wouldn’t. I was originally replying to someone having a whinge because people were only adding players from eras they had seen.

The best in the world was two countries, basically, and the only opposition he could actually play against was largely restricted to a classicist society in England and THEN the people he competed against further dissipated to two groups, only one of which he competed with in terms of his direct competition (batsmen).

It’s a fairly odd delineation.

 

[Shane Heard]

Greening, Rose, P.Daicos (Pendles, Bucks would be 4 and 5)

PD is definitely in your top 3.

Freak skills.

 

[Shane Heard]

Historically wise ..ours Is Hutchison, Reynolds and Hird.

A bunch close behind…

 

[Shane Heard]

Would list my three Tigers but there are four of them

Hart, Bartlett, Richardson, Martin.
Impossible to leave any of those off.

Ya gotta put Maurice in place of Richo..as good as Richo was of course.

 

[Shane Heard]

Lethal, Tucky, Hodge

Can’t argue with that.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Ya gotta put Maurice in place of Richo..as good as Richo was of course.

Maurice was as good a player as any of them, just didn't have the big body of work in Tiger colours like the other 4.

 

[Shane Heard]

Maurice was as good a player as any of them, just didn't have the big body of work in Tiger colours like the other 4.

Yeah I hear ya…but I’m 55. I saw the 79’-82’ tiger superior strength with my own eyes every ESs v Tigs game at the time.

Rioli and KB used to mesmerised me with their evasion skills. No Essendon player seemingly could never lay a hand on them.

They were both lean and slinky..KB was as slippery as an eel and couldn’t be brought down. Rioli just sidestepped blokes with ease repetitively and dismissed them as they lunged at him.

I saw with my young eyes many times from the punt rd end …superb teamwork goals started from MR as he was palming backwards and sideways and straight to a running Richmond mid out of the centre bounce that went 20 mtrs ..the end result 4 seconds later was a running shot straight through the guts.

Those two stick in my mind like concrete.

Unbeatable.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Historically wise ..ours Is Hutchison, Reynolds and Hird.

A bunch close behind…

Coleman and Thurgood two amazing players from all I have read.

Reynolds career just incredible, he did it all. Star player, captain and great coach. Longevity and got the three Brownlow's. Have seen some footage of him and just a very smart and polished player.

 

[Fadge]

This may be controversial, but as good as Peter Daicos was, his reputation has been enhanced as a sire.

I saw Peter Daicos' entire career, and yes he was a great player. But at no stage did I ever think he was amongst the best handful of players in the comp, or even Collingwood's standout best player.

For that reason, I have Pendlebury and Buckley ahead of him, with Nick Daicos poised to.join them in the best 3 Pies players I have seen.

 

[Piggy Smalls]

In your era, In your opinion

Adelaide - Riccuito, McLeod, Modra
Brisbane - Voss, Neale, Akermanis
Carlton - Williams, Silvagni, Koutifides
Collingwood - Pendy, P.Daicos, Buckley
Essendon - Hird, Salmon, Lloyd
Fremantle - Fyfe, Pavlich, Farmer
Fitzroy - Roos, Osborne, Lynch
Geelong - Ablett Snr, Ablett Jnr, Dangerfield
Gold Coast - Rowell, Miller
GWS - Greene, Cameron Ward
Hawthorn - Dunstall, Hodge, Brereton
Melbourne - Gawn, Lyon, Jakovich
North - Carey, Longmire, Archer
Port - Tredrea, Wanganeen, Rosee
Richmond - Martin, Richardson, Cotchin
Saints - Lockett, Harvey, Riewoldt
Sydney - Kelly, Goodes, Franklin
Western - Grant, Bontempelli, Libertore Snr
West Coast - Judd, Matera, Cousins

Adelaide - McLeod, Smart, Ricciuto
Brisbane - Black, Voss, Brown
Carlton - Kouta, Williams, Judd
Collingwood - Buckley, Pendlebury, N Daicos
Essendon - Hird, Fletcher, Lloyd
Fremantle - Pavlich, Fyfe, Mundy
Geelong - Ablett Snr, Selwood, Enright
Gold Coast - Ablett Jnr, Anderson, Miller
GWS - Cameron, Greene, Kelly
Hawthorn - Hodge, Franklin, Dunstall
Melbourne - Neitz, Gawn, Farmer
North Melbourne - Carey, Archer, Goldstein
Port - Pickett, Tredrea, Butters
Richmond - Martin, Richardson, Cotchin
St Kilda - Lockett, Reidwolt, Hayes
Sydney - Hall, Goodes, Kennedy
West Coast - Matera, Kennedy, Cousins
Dogs - Bont, T Liberatore, L Darcy

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

Adelaide - McLeod, Smart, Ricciuto
Brisbane - Black, Voss, Brown
Carlton - Kouta, Williams, Judd
Collingwood - Buckley, Pendlebury, N Daicos
Essendon - Hird, Fletcher, Lloyd
Fremantle - Pavlich, Fyfe, Mundy
Geelong - Ablett Snr, Selwood, Enright
Gold Coast - Ablett Jnr, Anderson, Miller
GWS - Cameron, Greene, Kelly
Hawthorn - Hodge, Franklin, Dunstall
Melbourne - Neitz, Gawn, Farmer
North Melbourne - Carey, Archer, Goldstein
Port - Pickett, Tredrea, Butters
Richmond - Martin, Richardson, Cotchin
St Kilda - Lockett, Reidwolt, Hayes
Sydney - Hall, Goodes, Kennedy
West Coast - Matera, Kennedy, Cousins
Dogs - Bont, T Liberatore, L Darcy

Goldstein?

 

[Piggy Smalls]

Goldstein?

He was a super dominant ruckman for a long time.

On reflection, I think Robert Harvey and Chris Grant should feel most stiffed by my list.

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

He was a super dominant ruckman for a long time.

On reflection, I think Robert Harvey and Chris Grant should feel most stiffed by my list.

I should have named Darren jarman also. We all do it.

 

[Wolfgang West]

Swans my era.

Lockett

Daylight
Kelly / Bedford
Franklin.

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

Swans my era.

Lockett

Daylight
Kelly / Bedford
Franklin.

I thought Goodes over Bedford?

 

[HoldMyBeer]

Yeah I hear ya…but I’m 55. I saw the 79’-82’ tiger superior strength with my own eyes every ESs v Tigs game at the time.

Rioli and KB used to mesmerised me with their evasion skills. No Essendon player seemingly could never lay a hand on them.

They were both lean and slinky..KB was as slippery as an eel and couldn’t be brought down. Rioli just sidestepped blokes with ease repetitively and dismissed them as they lunged at him.

I saw with my young eyes many times from the punt rd end …superb teamwork goals started from MR as he was palming backwards and sideways and straight to a running Richmond mid out of the centre bounce that went 20 mtrs ..the end result 4 seconds later was a running shot straight through the guts.

Those two stick in my mind like concrete.

Unbeatable.

Carlton won 3 flags during that era you mention and you reckon Tigers were the best?

 

[Chip Scab1]

Carlton won 3 flags during that era you mention and you reckon Tigers were the best?

The Tiger delusion has no limits. Love it tbh, they're good fans.

 

[juss]

In my era

Martin, Richardson, Rance

Riewoldt was borderline