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Operation Epstein Fury: US/Israel attack on Iran

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Israel has to one of the most corrupt countries in the world.

I can't believe they have so much power over the US.
Do you know what corrupt even means?

You can argue Israel is a lot of things but corrupt?

Only measures I've seen have Israel in the top 33 percent of least corrupt countries in the world including being less corrupt then a number of major European economies.
 
Do you know what corrupt even means?

You can argue Israel is a lot of things but corrupt?

Only measures I've seen have Israel in the top 33 percent of least corrupt countries in the world including being less corrupt then a number of major European economies.
their leader is facing fraud charges.
 
I can't believe they have so much power over the US.

honestly thought they would be higher in foreign lobby $$
 

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the tin tanks meddling in iran's affairs this long ago cos the then president wanted to nationalise oil. the beginning of the demise

 
Is Trump channeling Netanyahu below with his threats a few hours ago to destroy Iran's essential infrastructure?
Or are the Neo-Cons itching to finish off what they started, and determined to not let Trump chicken out too much/early.

'If Iran does anything that stops the flow of Oil within the Strait of Hormuz, they will be hit by the United States of America TWENTY TIMES HARDER than they have been hit thus far. Additionally, we will take out easily destroyable targets that will make it virtually impossible for Iran to ever be built back, as a Nation, again — Death, Fire, and Fury will reign upon them — But I hope, and pray, that it does not happen! This is a gift from the United States of America to China, and all of those Nations that heavily use the Hormuz Strait. Hopefully, it is a gesture that will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP'
 
Because the EU/US released a big chunk of the strategic oil reserve. They can't do that a lot of times. You can see the pause in the spike in 2022 when they did it as well. They did it then at the $90 mark as well. There's still a lot of hope that this will end soon. The down-side risk of the Straits being closed for another week is huge.

Nobody seems able to put themselves in the place of Iranian leadership fighting for survival. Oil revenue is a secondary thought to survival

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Ah right, I thought they were still weighing it up, didn't know they pulled the trigger.
 

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christian zionists don't have the excuse of being personally traumatised by the holocaust

I tend to agree generally with this sentiment as it fits my own. I do wonder however how this fits with issues such as intergenerational trauma.....i must do some more reading
 

honestly thought they would be higher in foreign lobby $$
Australian politicians come cheap
 
Additionally, we will take out easily destroyable targets that will make it virtually impossible for Iran to ever be built back, as a Nation, again — Death, Fire, and Fury will reign upon them

Not good news for the Iranians who were thanking Trump for bombing their country as a pathway to freedom. I have seen some reports from inside Iran after that Trump post saying there had been blackouts and that the electricity grid had been bombed.

Trump got the oil price to drop when he told a CBS journalist in a phone interview.
"the war is very complete, pretty much. They have no navy, no communications, they’ve got no Air Force.”

Then he did his press conference and was, as per usual, all over the place.


Trump needs some sort of victory statement to get US out the war. Just seems like a warning to stabilise the oil price - let the ships through the straits or we'll bomb you into oblivion - but there's no indication of there being anything that Iran can agree to.

Everything points to the same theory people had on Day 1, that Netanyahu convinced Trump there was a short easy regime change war that could be won if they tagged team to bomb Iran.
 
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Maybe Regime change isn't the point at all.

Maybe Trump just wanted Iran tensions.

Maybe trump wants control over key maritime choke points that carry global energy - Panama, Strait of Hormuz, Red sea
create chaos to markets - energy, AI, Helium, Oil, agriculture - food production

Is the Northern sea route - near Greenland - the reason for "we must take Greenland" for security.
 

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Maybe Regime change isn't the point at all.

Maybe Trump just wanted Iran tensions.

Maybe trump wants control over key maritime choke points that carry global energy - Panama, Strait of Hormuz, Red sea
create chaos to markets - energy, AI, Helium, Oil, agriculture - food production

Is the Northern sea route - near Greenland - the reason for "we must take Greenland" for security.
LoL. Yeah, the pedo and his frat pro War Sec are playing 4D chess.

They've got no plan whatsoever, Bibi just wanted them to blow up Iran, so had somebody buy some TrumpCoin to pay Trump to spend US taxpayer money on it.

At least they didn't fail in the nation-building like Iraq, Libya, Syria and Afghanistan, because they never tried.

In 5 years, they'll point at the failed state and say "see, that's why we had to bomb it" and the people who lap up US propaganda will nod their heads like good little consumers. The type of people who point at sanction-crippled countries like Iran and Cuba and ignore the role sanctions play in the outcomes.
 
Its been the Iranians going on about war crimes.
In no war ever , has missing the target and hitting a civilian facility been considered a war crime.
The Iranian hypocrisy is totally evident when they target totally civilian structures in countries that are not formally part of this conflict.

Targeting civilian facilities of uninvolved countries in an attempt to apply political pressure to one of the combatants, is pretty much a terrorism act, however technically its an act of war , since it is the actual state of Iran doing it.
Wait what? This has always been considered a war crime.

I reckon it was a miss or bad intelligence in the girls school case. Still a crime, you launch it and then the consequences are yours
 
LoL. Yeah, the pedo and his frat pro War Sec are playing 4D chess.

They've got no plan whatsoever, Bibi just wanted them to blow up Iran, so had somebody buy some TrumpCoin to pay Trump to spend US taxpayer money on it.

At least they didn't fail in the nation-building like Iraq, Libya, Syria and Afghanistan, because they never tried.

In 5 years, they'll point at the failed state and say "see, that's why we had to bomb it" and the people who lap up US propaganda will nod their heads like good little consumers. The type of people who point at sanction-crippled countries like Iran and Cuba and ignore the role sanctions play in the outcomes.

No idea why people keep looking for some kind of super-genius long term strategic plan with Trump.

He doesn't have one, never has. He think war is like a light switch; turn it on and off at will like in Venezuela.

Regime change isn't something he cares about. He wants Greenland because his mate Robert asked him for it. Venezuela is the same regime with the VP in charge.
 
No idea why people keep looking for some kind of super-genius long term strategic plan with Trump.

He doesn't have one, never has. He think war is like a light switch; turn it on and off at will like in Venezuela.

Regime change isn't something he cares about. He wants Greenland because his mate Robert asked him for it. Venezuela is the same regime with the VP in charge.
People looking at method in his strategies are like looking at a horoscope - they will always land on '4d chess' as the answer.
 
Maybe Regime change isn't the point at all.

Maybe Trump just wanted Iran tensions.

Maybe trump wants control over key maritime choke points that carry global energy - Panama, Strait of Hormuz, Red sea
create chaos to markets - energy, AI, Helium, Oil, agriculture - food production

Is the Northern sea route - near Greenland - the reason for "we must take Greenland" for security.

That would seem like the same tactic as the previous policy of Israel in Gaza, the so-called "mowing the lawn" approach. Bomb them to the point that they'll need a few years to get back to being a threat.

Iran's only security will be to have nuclear weapons, the other justification US/Israel had for starting this war, but they've given no indication they know how to destroy Iran's nuclear capability or where to find it, despite announcing last June during the 12 day war that Iran's nuclear enrichment capabilities had been...in Trump's words "obliterated".
 
Do you know what corrupt even means?

You can argue Israel is a lot of things but corrupt?

Only measures I've seen have Israel in the top 33 percent of least corrupt countries in the world including being less corrupt then a number of major European economies.
Israel is 100% corrupt! Do you know what it means?

Definition: Corrupt means to act dishonestly or immorally, often for personal gain, and can refer to individuals or systems that engage in illegal practice. Prime examples Lebanon/Gaza and incursion in Iran.

Incidentally poor old Orange man talked about excursion in Iran, think he may have meant incursion.
 

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