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THE GAME: MCG, Friday, May 11, 7.40pm (AEST)

HEAD TO HEAD:

Overall: Played 154, Melbourne 74 wins, Hawthorn 80
Since 2000: Melbourne 6 wins, Hawthorn 14

LAST TIME: Hawthorn 20.12 (132) def Melbourne 12.6 (78), round 18 2011 at the MCG

The Demons carried on a poor recent record against Hawthorn with a 54-point loss at the MCG in this encounter. Hawthorn kicked the opening five goals and never looked back.

Lance Franklin kicked five goals opposed to James Frawley and moved to the lead in the race for the Coleman Medal with 51 goals.

In the midfield, former Hawks skipper Sam Mitchell (30) continued his superb form, while Brad Sewell (33) and Jordan Lewis (24) were also influential in their return from injury and suspension respectively.

The Demons' midfield struggled to gain possession, with Brent Moloney held to 17 touches, while Nathan Jones (23), ruckman Stef Martin (21) and forward Brad Green (17) led the possession count for their side.

Hawthorn coach Alastair Clarkson said limiting the influence of Melbourne's midfielders was one of the key components of the win. "We were able to limit the influence of Moloney and their important players. He only had 18 or so touches, when usually he's more prolific than that," Clarkson said after the match.

The defeat was the first time since 1980-84 that the Demons have lost eight consecutive matches against the Hawks, the last win coming in round eight, 2006, when forward David Neitz kicked six goals.

MEDIA

TV: Channel 7/7mate (live in all areas except WA - 90 mins delay)

RADIO: SEN, ABC, 3AW, Triple M, NIRS, 5AA, Heart FM (Tas), 6PR

SUMMARY:

A win is obviously unlikely here, but the team have been infinitely more competitive in recent weeks, and another competitive performance is a must. The strongest hope is that the continuous progress sustained in so many areas of our game over the last three weeks, continues on Friday night, as it did last Saturday.

I doubt that anyone would have expected us to be within a goal at the first change against the Cats. It wasn't that we did so well with the first use of the breeze (and we were lucky with the Cats' inaccuracy) but there were enough contributors plugging away to keep us in touch.

The likes of Clark and Frawley, key players at opposite ends of the ground - missing from last week's near loss to St. Kilda - were making a difference. Frawley comprehensively killed off any threat from Hawkins in this match, and all those self-proclaimed "experts" claiming Hawkins would run riot were thoroughly embarrassed, to say the least.

The Russky was winning the ruck battles (even if his onballers were being outclassed) and co-captain Jack Grimes was also doing well. And Nathan Jones was continuing his good form for the season.

As was Cale Morton, with another good performance, including 20 possessions (with 7 contested ball wins), 4 clearances, and 3 tackles. He has been something of a revelation during the last three weeks, and this week was no different.

Statistically, the bulk of Geelong's winning margin was attained in the second term, when they put on a masterclass, exhibiting exactly how you dominate any opposition on this particular ground. You need the team to be well-organised and well-structured, with players having the experience and the instinctiveness to know where to put the ball next.

Mix that with the skills that give you a disposal efficiency rating in excess of 80%, even in wet conditions.

Last year, that would have given Geelong a seven or eight-goal break in a single quarter (and it did). This year, the dominance was restricted - even in our worst quarter for the day - to 23 points.

This was mainly due to the fact that we were able to match them throughout the whole day in contested possession. That is the area in which the team has languished so badly in past seasons against the competition's stronger teams. Precisely what new coach Mark Neeld has stressed would ultimately distinguish the Melbourne of the past from that of the future.

We saw signs of that from the massive efforts of Clark and Jones, together with the rapidly improving Jeremy Howe and Tom McDonald.

We were competitive for long periods, being within 14 points of the Cats at the 11-minute mark of the third quarter after Jeremy Howe snapped a goal - making it four in a row up to that stage, and easily our strongest period of the match.

Each week, we have been able to build on the week before in one way or another:

Contested possession - we ended up actually beating Geelong in this area, just as with St Kilda last week.

Contested marks - we thoroughly outmatched the Cats in this department, 19-12. And are now close to being the best contested marking team in the league. That's an undeniable fact.

Inside 50s - 46 this time, up from 44 against St Kilda the previous week - which was, as I said at the time, 12 up on our average.

And Mitch Clark, as mentioned before, continues his exceptional performance in the forward line, maintaining his position amongst the top 10 goalkickers in the league with another 4-goal haul on Saturday.

Our dominance in the ruck continues, with the big Russian once again slaughtering all comers, hitouts ending 52-30 in our favour.

Tangible progress most definitely continues.

Meanwhile, the Hawks are out to climb the ladder and build percentage, as they recover from three losses in the first five games.

The knives were out after they seemed to fade away in their loss to the Swans at Aurora Stadium. Fans have become accustomed to the Hawks' physical style of play and while that was missing in Launceston, it returned last Saturday night. Many think the scoreboard flattered, but they stormed home to move up to 3-3 after the opening six rounds.

Against St Kilda, Cyril Rioli kicked six goals and Franklin five, showing the damage they can do when the Hawks' midfield gets on top.

WALKING WOUNDED:

Melbourne coach Mark Neeld has no new injury worries ahead of Friday's clash against the Hawks but former captain Brad Green (finger) is a chance to return via the Casey Scorpians.

Youngsters Stef Martin (hip) and James Strauss (leg) are back training and are also likely to line up in the VFL this weekend while midfielder Jordan Gysberts was one of three players to suffer a broken jaw for Casey and is set to miss four to six weeks.

There is some mixed news for Hawthorn. Defender Josh Gibson will test his injured ankle at training before making a decision on his inclusion. The 28-year-old missed the Hawks' 35-point win over the Saints on Saturday after rolling his ankle in the loss to Sydney two weeks ago.

Another injury concern for the Hawks is Luke Hodge. The versatile skipper suffered a heavy knock to the hip/back but the club is hopeful he will recover in time for Friday's match, while Stephen Gilham (knee) could be in contention for his first senior match since Round 8 last year, following two impressive performances for Box Hill. News for key defender Jarrad Boumann isn't so good. Boumann had his appendix removed on Monday and is expected to miss at least two weeks of action.

FORM:

Demons' Last Five:

Round 6: Loss, 11.10 (76) - 17.17 (119) v Geelong, Simonds Stadium
Round 5: Loss, 10.6 (66) - 12.12 (84) v St Kilda, MCG
Round 4: Loss, 9.13 (67) - 13.10 (88) v Western Bulldogs, MCG
Round 3: Loss, 11.8 (74) - 20.13 (133) v Richmond, MCG
Round 2: Loss, 9.4 (58) - 25.16 (166) v West Coast, Patersons Stadium

Hawks' Last Five:

Round 6: Win, 18.15 (123) - 13.10 (88) v St Kilda, MCG
Round 5: Loss, 10.9 (69) - 16.10 (106) v Sydney, Aurora Stadium
Round 4: Loss, 5.16 (46) - 5.21 (51) v West Coast, Patersons Stadium
Round 3: Win, 21.14 (140) - 12.12 (84) v Adelaide, MCG
Round 2: Loss, 13.12 (90) - 14.8 (92) v Geelong, MCG

WHO'S HOT:

Cyril Rioli - Alastair Clarkson will be expecting more of the same from Rioli. The speedster went into last week's clash against the Saints under extreme pressure to perform and he stepped up to kick six goals and collect a season-high 18 disposals after averaging 13 in the opening five rounds.

Mitch Clark - A shining light in an otherwise gloomy start to the season for the Demons. Clark battled brilliantly in Geelong and converted well in front of goal, to take his season tally to 14. He also had 21 disposals, including eight marks - six of those contested.
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Round seven team

B: James Frawley, Jared Rivers, Clint Bartram
HB: Jack Grimes, Colin Garland, Cale Morton
C: Ricky Petterd, Brent Moloney, Jack Trengove
HF: Nathan Jones, Mitch Clark, Jamie Bennell
F: Jeremy Howe, Colin Sylvia, Aaron Davey
FOLL: Mark Jamar, James Magner, Jordie McKenzie
I/C: Matthew Bate, Rohan Bail, Tom McDonald, Jack Fitzpatrick
EMG: Lynden Dunn, Joel Macdonald, Luke Tapscott

IN: Ricky Petterd, Jack Fitzpatrick, Jamie Bennell
OUT: James Sellar (calf), Lynden Dunn, Luke Tapscott

Hawthorn

B: Brent Guerra, Stephen Gilham, Benjamin Stratton
HB: Grant Birchall, Ryan Schoenmakers, Matt Suckling
C: Brendan Whitecross, Sam Mitchell, Jordan Lewis
HF: Isaac Smith, Lance Franklin, Luke Breust
F: Cyril Rioli, Jarryd Roughead, Michael Osborne
Foll: David Hale, Shaun Burgoyne, Brad Sewell
I/C: Clinton Young, Liam Shiels, Shane Savage, Paul Puopolo
EMG: Kyle Cheney, Bradley Hill, Broc McCauley

In: Stephen Gilham, Clinton Young
Out: Luke Hodge (Knee), Jarrad Boumann (Appendix)
 
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Comprehensive as ever mate. :thumbsu:

On the AFL website: Neeld has plans for Buddy

MELBOURNE coach Mark Neeld says the Demons will rotate players on Hawthorn forward Lance Franklin on Friday night rather than set one defender the sole task.
 
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ANALYSIS:

Much depends on Mitch maintaining his form. That's an understatement.

And while our performance in many facets of the game has improved dramatically of late, we've got a long way to go in our ball use, with disposal efficiency still way below par and the worst in the competition.

Our run and spread in midfield remains extremely deficient. Also our lack of coordination in the offensive and defensive zonal pressure was ever-so-noticeable, being amongst the biggest reasons why we lost as we did last week. We couldn't lock it in up forward, and we couldn't stop the Cats slicing through our defence time and time again.

All these three factors will be significant, going up against an efficient, quick and classy Hawks midfield division who are, dauntingly enough, better both by hand and foot than the Cats.

Our shortage of speed is abundantly clear. We lack pace across the ground and that hurts especially when coming up against the likes of Chance Bateman and Rioli, who certainly have more than enough capability to expose us in this regard.

However, we can certainly beat them in contested ball, once again, contested marking ability, and in clearances. Hawthorn are the worst in the league when it comes to clearances, while we are clearly stronger in this area, and growing more so. And we have virtually the best ruck division in the league, which obviously helps.

If we can convert these likely advantages into marks inside 50, and sustain it, that could give us a real chance.

With Boumann ruled out and Gibson under an injury cloud, Hawthorn's defence could be in for a tough night. The Hawks' defence is seen as quite vulnerable, and if the delivery is right, it will pay strong dividends.

As will our ability to shut down Franklin, who remains a dominant force in their forward line. And with an All-Australian full-back in James Frawley, we have the ability to do exactly that.

As pointed out by a Hawks supporter on this board recently, Frawley has very good closing speed and is strong in one on one contests. Whereas Franklin's strengths are his pace on the lead, his workrate, his reading of the ball in the air, and his ability to use his speed and ball control to dominate once it hits the deck.

If the Hawks can get decent midfield supply to him, he could have 10+ shots on goal, like he did last Saturday night. But if we can choke off Hawthorn's ball movement, as Sydney did the other week, and as we were also able to do against the Saints, Frawley could win the battle, as their forward line becomes more congested, and Frawley can beat Franklin in a battle of strength.

Another big concern is the Hawks' effectiveness from kick-ins. The 2008 premiers lead the competition in scoring from kick-ins, while we are amongst the worst in the league in this regard, so often lacking a good plan to work our way out, and unable to find the target. If we can't improve our zone well enough to cope with their kick-ins and their ability to hit on the transition, a blow-out could easily happen.

We could well challenge them. But to win... I hope it can happen, but I'm certainly not expecting it.

Hawks by 15.
 

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brilliant review, thoroughly enjoyed reading it. :thumbsu:

I think in recent times Hawthorn can be exposed by a tall forward line (particuarly if those talls are strong bodied players also) and in the ruck (not sure why they let Renouf go, sure he wasn't great but he was an experienced ruck option considering Bailey is injury prone).

Our issue will be getting the ball into our forward line enough, and with decent kicking skills. If we can do that often enough we're half a chance with Clark, hopefully Fitzgerald, Jamar and Howe all rotating up forward. would love to have Jurrah back to further stretch them but he needs another week of fitness in the VFL.
 
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would love to have Jurrah back to further stretch them but he needs another week of fitness in the VFL.

I always had the feeling that we wouldn't see Liam back for the Dees until after his court video link which is next Thursday (17th).

Maybe it is just coincidence (and purely physical management) but a low profile until after then probably can't hurt.
 
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It's going to be raining tomorrow I hear? Might give us a bit of a leg up.

We should be used to it by now - played in the wet for the last 3 weeks, or at least slippery conditions down at Geelong.

Excellent as always W33 - I think our board is very lucky to have some very talented people not only posting but giving us great previews and reviews. Always look forward to it during the week.

And Rand - reckon that is a good move with Buddy. Chip, Garland and Tom Mac are more than capable of spending some time down there and they can support each other and keep the hard pressure on him.
 
Teams vs. Hawthorn

B: James Frawley, Jared Rivers, Clint Bartram
HB: Jack Grimes, Colin Garland, Cale Morton
C: Ricky Petterd, Brent Moloney, Jack Trengove
HF: Nathan Jones, Mitch Clark, Jamie Bennell
F: Jeremy Howe, Colin Sylvia, Aaron Davey
FOLL: Mark Jamar, James Magner, Jordie McKenzie
I/C: Matthew Bate, Rohan Bail, Tom McDonald, Jack Fitzpatrick
EMG: Lynden Dunn, Joel Macdonald, Luke Tapscott
IN: Ricky Petterd, Jack Fitzpatrick, Jamie Bennell
OUT: James Sellar (calf), Lynden Dunn, Luke Tapscot

3 fair changes there. Sellar, Dunn and Tapscott the ones to go (Tappy stiff though) while the 3 above deserve a recall. :thumbsu:

Hodge out for the Hawks.
 
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Happy with that, Petterd especially. No Gibson leaves their back line looking pretty shizen. If we win any ball Mitch Clark might have a field day.
 
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Happy with that, Petterd especially. No Gibson leaves their back line looking pretty shizen. If we win any ball Mitch Clark might have a field day.
It will have to be quick ball, they'll 3/4-team him otherwise.

Big fan of the changes, reward consistent form at Casey. Massive chance for Bennell.
 
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It will have to be quick ball, they'll 3/4-team him otherwise.

Big fan of the changes, reward consistent form at Casey. Massive chance for Bennell.

True, and I'm interested to see how Neeld plans for that. We still have marking ability down there with Fitz, Howe, Sylvia and Petterd so I'd like to see them try SOMETHING to take the heat of Clark.

Agree on Bennell also - he has earned the right to get back in the side and now he has to grab that chance with both hands. He has what we lack - speed - and if he can use it he could be damaging coming off half back.
 

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Sounds about right to me. Sellar was gone on form anyway, Dunn has offered little and Tappy is just not right so far this year.

Been waiting on Petterd for a while, Fitz has earned his place (but will probably lose it to Martin in a week or two) and Bennell has earned his as well.

Only thing i query, Bennell named at HF when he current run of good form at Casey has been off HB.
 
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Sounds about right to me. Sellar was gone on form anyway, Dunn has offered little and Tappy is just not right so far this year.

Been waiting on Petterd for a while, Fitz has earned his place (but will probably lose it to Martin in a week or two) and Bennell has earned his as well.

Only thing i query, Bennell named at HF when he current run of good form at Casey has been off HB.

Always remember that where they are named is no necessarily where they will play on the day. I'm certain Grimes and Trengove were not named on the IC bench when the teams were named last week but they started there regardless.

Bail to be the sub too I reckon.
 
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Good changes. Strongest 22 we've had in all year.

MFC starting at $14 tomorrow night. Surely a few of you lads might find a fiver and have a dabble at those odds??? I know I will!
 

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Liking the ins and outs there.

Tappy perhaps a little stiff but he needs to start playing 4 good quarters for Casey and get some kms in him. Sellar listed as a calf either way Fitzpatrick ripe for his spot. Dunn I'm not fussed on.

btw I'm going to merge this thread into the official preview thread. Last week the official preview was aired a little late after teams had been announced but we're on schedule this week.
 
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Bail was awful last week, towelled by Motlop. Couch should get a spot on the bench at the very least. :thumbsu:

Different players though. Couch is a pure inside mid, something we have an abundance of. Would love to see him get a game but swapping him for Bail would make us VERY slow. His chance will come.
 
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hope you guys don't mind me barging in but I reckon you guys a chance tommorrow. no hodge and no gibbo will hurt us while clinton young is a liability. apparantly he's been doing well in the vfl but thats the cycle for him. play shit in afl, dropped to vfl, plays well and gets promoted. not sure if you have any guys like that.
and from the look of this board you guys seem happy with your team?
cheers and good luck tommorrow (but not really)
 
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Matty Warnock was a bit like that last year. Had a couple of rough AFL games, so spent time in the VFL. Almost every week was in the bests and the reviews of him were glowing, then he'd come back and play poorly.
Good work by most of us, we had the ins/outs covered. If it's wet that should hurt the Hawks chip-it-around style, and make things more congested, but I'm still unsure whether we can run out another slog of a game, which is what cost us against the Saints.
 
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Good changes. Strongest 22 we've had in all year.

MFC starting at $14 tomorrow night. Surely a few of you lads might find a fiver and have a dabble at those odds??? I know I will!



Welcome back Teach!!! I thought you might be on an excursion with the work experience girls at the Royal!!!
 
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