AE 2003 NFL Tipping Comp W-1

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Mooster7

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It begins.....

A slightly new system this year. Instead of each game being worth one point, games will be worth points depending upon how you list them with you picks. Not only will you be picking winning teams for each week, but you'll be prioritizing them in a column as to your certainty of the picks 1-16 for weeks with 16 games, and 1-14 in the bye weeks running from week 3 through 10.

The higher the number you assign a game, the more certain you are of that particular pick, and the more points it's worth if you are correct. e.g. a game you put at 1 is the game that week you are most uncertain about. If you are correct in that pick, you are awarded one point. The game you are most certain about, you put 16th on your list. Again, if you are correct about the outcome of that game, it is worth 16 points to you. If you are wrong (and greatly upset in more ways than one) that also represents 16 potential points you've lost out on.

I'll list the games, and then make some sample picks so you can see what I'm talking about. Then I'll explain it a bit more.


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SCHEDULE WEEK 1

Thursday, 4 September 2003

New York Jets at Washington Redskins

Sunday, 7 September 2003

New England Patriots at Buffalo Bills
Jacksonville Jaguars at Carolina Panthers
Denver Broncos at Cincinnati Bengals
Indianapolis Colts at Cleveland Browns
Arizona Cardinals at Detroit Lions
Minnesota Vikings at Green Bay Packers
San Diego Chargers at Kansas City Chiefs
Houston Texans at Miami Dolphins
St. Louis Rams at New York Giants
Baltimore Ravens at Pittsburgh Steelers
Atlanta Falcons at Dallas Cowboys
Chicago Bears at San Francisco 49'ers
New Orleans Saints at Seattle Seahawks
Oakland Raiders at Tennessee Titans

Monday Night Football, 8 September

Tampa Bay Bucaneers at Philladelphia Eagles

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Sample Picks

OK, let's say that Mr. Blue wants to make picks for Week 1. First he looks over the games and decides who he believes will win each game through the normal methods (Careful statistical study, ESP, Voodoo, being Winston Wolf etc.) Normally that's where it ends, however, now Mr. Blue is going to arrange his Week 1 picks to reflect his certainty of the picks, and where he wants the highest award of Tipping Comp Points.

Looking at his picks, Mr. Blue decides that Houston at Miami is going to be a slaughterfest in Dolphins favor. That's the game he is most certain of, and it will become his 16 point selection.

Mr. Blue then decides that the the pick he is most unsure about is Arizona at Detroit. Both teams have had terrible years recently. Maybe Arizona has improved a lot with Emmit Smith, then again Detroit is playing at home. Does that balance? How do the Cards do on the road? How about Detroit at home, not much better, but they have really good crowd figures considering how much they suck. Could give them an edge. On and on. Mr. Blue doesn't know, so he places the AZ-Detroit game in the 1 point position. This is the game he is least sure about. If he is wrong he is only missing one potential point.

Mr. Blue continues, and finally comes up with a silly Week 1 Tip column such as this:

Mr. Blue's Week 1 Tips

1. Arizona (he thinks the Cards will pull it out)
2. Indianapolis
3. New England
4. Carolina
5. Kansas City
6. Oakland (the bastards)
7. Tampa Bay
8. NY Giants
9. San Francisco
10. New Orleans
11. NY Jets
12. Green Bay
13. Pittsburgh
14. Atlanta
15. Denver
16. Miami

Providing Mr. Blue is correct in all of his picks, he can win a possible 136 points - 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 ....all the way to 16. If Mr. Blue is wrong about Arizona, he has won 135 points (minus one). On the other hand, if the one game he is wrong about is instead Miami, he is out 16 points (OUCH!) and is awarded 120.

In other words, for every game Mr. Blue is right about, he is awarded the points shown to the left of the tip. That's why he wants to put the 'sure' tips with high numbers, and the hard picks with low numbers.

Pretty easy, eh? Other than if you saw Resevoir Dogs, you know you don't want upset Mr. Blue. Winston Wolf seems more reasonable. :D

One of the cool things about this system is that if Mr. Blue is only a few points behind Winston Wolf, one week can make an enormous difference - even if they chose exactly the same winners. This is because Mr. Blue and Winston might have placed their losers at different spots on the column and would be awarded different points for their winners. This causes a bit more leap-frogging, and someone on bottom at Week 8 could very well take the lead by Week 10. All depends.

Another aspect I like, is that I am physically incapable of not picking the Chiefs. There were some games last year where I could have objectively picked the enemy, but didn't want to. In cases like that, you can pick your team anyway, and place them at "1." Got that Hat? Cowboys at 1........all year. :D

You can go ahead and make your picks on this thread any time before kick off of the Jets - Skins game.

Questions?


Peace & let's have another fun year.
 

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O.K here is my 1st draft but I reserve the right to change it at any time before the Jets v Redskins game on 5/9.

1. Tampa Bay Bucaneers
2. New England Patriots
3. Dallas Cowboys
4. New Orleans
5. Jacksonville Jaguars
6. Detroit Lions
7. Kansas City Chiefs
8. St. Louis Rams
9. New York Jets
10. Pittsburgh Steelers
11. Indianapolis
12. Denver Broncos
13. Oakland Raiders
14. Green Bay Packers
15. San Francisco 49'ers
16. Miami Dolphins
 
Mooster

interesting concept for a tipping comp, I LIKE it !!!! (although it smells like an attempt to try and force the reigning tipping champ off the podium) :D

count me in for season 2003

P.S.
as for Mr Blue ..... I think you meant Mr Blonde, cos u definitely don't wanna upset a knife weilding lunatic dancing to the classic "Stuck in the Middle With You"
 
Re: Bigfooty 2003 NFL Tipping Comp W-1

1 Carolina Panthers
2 Tampa Bay Bucaneers
3 Cleveland Browns
4 Dallas Cowboys
5 Green Bay Packers
6 New Orleans Saints
7 Miami Dolphins
8 New York Giants
9 Pittsburgh Steelers
10 San Diego Chargers
11 San Francisco 49'ers
12 Arizona Cardinals
13 Oakland Raiders
14 Denver Broncos
15 New York Jets
16 Buffalo Bills

Rider: I have absolutely no idea what I am doing - this will be a case of "A.rse vs Class"
 
I'm in. Will be posting my tips as soon as I can, before next Friday's deadline...

Great format, Mooster. I think one year back home, I was involved in a tipping comp like that with a group of my bar buddies, and we had a lot of fun with it.
 
Steel City

I'll bring the Steelers Passing game to this contest and hopefully the D will shut a few of you down if you tip against us !!

I'm in the huddle and ready for SOME FOOTBALL !!!
 
1. Oakland Raiders
2. Kansas City Chiefs
3. Chicago Bears
4. Carolina Panthers
5. New York Jets
6. New Orleans Saints
7. Dallas Cowboys
8. Pittsburgh Steelers
9. New York Giants
10. Denver Broncos
11. Miami Dolphins
12. Cleveland Browns
13. Detroit Lions
14. Buffalo Bills
15. Green Bay Packers
16. Philadelphia Eagles

I am a genius.
 
Alright. Now you're going to see something amazing. 5 months of study condensed to one weeks picks. 5 months of watching the draft, free agency, the preseason, taking careful note of each teams strengths & weaknesses, testing theories on Madden 2004, painstakingly figuring each possible mismatch with each possible squad for each team.

All of that is going to come crashing down magnificently like an enormous house of cards, and demonstrate how truly futile all of my efforts were.

Of course, until the end of the weekend, when I'm decisively proven a king idiot, these my friends are the greatest picks. For another six days, until these falter to insignificance, these are the sweetest picks you are likely to see.

MOOSTER PICKS WEEK 1:

1 Eagles - tough call. I almost tossed a coin [edit I decided to flip a coin]
2. Oakland - the bastards
3. Buffalo - Bills 8-8 improved Pats 9-7 did not
4. Carolinia Toss up. Panthers are at home
5. New Orleans - Should be equal. Seahawks not impressive in preseason
6. Detroit Cards have no receivers. Detroit D will have nothing to do, but focus on Emmitt Smith

7. KC - SD has no Pass D. With Seau gone, the Run D may have gotten worse as well. Chargers should have a good year running the ball. Chiefs Run D is looking much better. Also, the game will be played at Arrowhead.

8. Indy - Indy is the better team, even if the Browns hadn't declined somewhat (I believe they have)
9. Green Bay - The Pack can't beat the Vikes on the road, but this one is at Lambeau
10. NY Giants - St. Louis appears to be in a slide. Giants should win 9-10 games.
11. NY Jets - Washington sucks
12. Pittsburgh - This one isn't too hard.
13. Atlanta - Back up QB can beat Dallas this year.
14. San Fran - 49'ers are my pick to take NFC W. Did the Bears improve on 4-12? Maybe, but it won't matter this week.
15. Denver - A friend of mine said, "Denver has a bye week." :D
16. Miami - But it's the Fish who truly have the bye.

Peace,
 

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1 Cleveland Browns
2 New York Giants
3 Buffalo Bills
4 Atlanta Falcons
5 Philadelphia Eagles
6 Tennessee Titans
7 Seattle Seahawks
8 Washington Redskins
9 Detroit Lions
10 Carolina Panthers
11 Pittsburgh Steelers
12 Kansas City Chiefs
13 Green Bay Packers
14 Denver Broncos
15 San Francisco 49ers
16 Miami Dolphins
 
Who decided to open the season on a Thursday? Weird.

1. Carolina
2. Cleveland
3. NY Giants
4. Tennessee
5. Washington
6. Detroit
7. New Orleans
8. Philadelphia
9. Atlanta
10. Kansas City
11. Buffalo
12. Pittsburgh
13. Green Bay
14. Denver
15. San Francisco
16. Miami
 
16 - Miami Dolphins
15 - San Francisco 49ers
14 - Denver Broncos
13 - Pittsburgh Steelers
12 - Green Bay Packers
11 - Kansas City Chiefs
10 - New York Giants
09 - Indianapolis Colts
08 - Carolina Panthers
07 - New York Jets
06 - New Orleans Saints
05 - Detroit Lions
04 - Philadelphia Eagles
03 - Tennessee Titans
02 - Atlanta Falcons
01 - New England Patroits
 
1. Cleveland to beat Indy
2. Carolina to beat Jacksonville
3. NY Giants to beat St Louis
4. New Orleans to beat Seattle
5. Philadelphia to beat Tampa
6. NY Jets to beat Washington
7. New England to beat Buffalo
8. Green Bay to beat Minnesota
9. Kansas City to beat San Diego
10. Denver to beat Cincinatti
11. Pittsburgh to beat Baltimore
12. San Francisco to beat Chicago
13. Arizona to beat Detroit
14. Dallas to beat Atlanta
15. Oakland to beat Tennesee
16. Miami to beat Houston
 
My tips for Week 1 (and so shall it begin!):

1- Tampa Bay Bucaneers over Philladelphia Eagles
2 - Oakland Raiders over Tennessee Titans
3 - New England Patriots over Buffalo Bills
4 - San Diego Chargers over Kansas City Chiefs
5 - New York Giants over St. Louis Rams
6 - Seattle Seahawks over New Orleans Saints
7 - Chicago Bears over San Francisco 49'ers
8 - Baltimore Ravens over Pittsburgh Steelers
9 - Cleveland Browns over Indianapolis Colts
10 - Green Bay Packers over Minnesota Vikings
11 - Atlanta Falcons over Dallas Cowboys
12 - Miami Dolphins over Houston Texans
13 - Arizona Cardinals over Detroit Lions
14 - Jacksonville Jaguars over Carolina Panthers
15 - Denver Broncos over Cincinnati Bengals
16 - New York Jets over Washington Redskins


Also, one technical question... Mooster, for your bookeeping and score-keeping purposes, do you prefer that we make our picks in ascending (1-16) or descending (16-1) order? Does it make any difference?
 
16 Packers
15 Broncos
14 Dolphins
13 Kansas City
12 San Francisco
11 New England
10 Carolina
9 Cleveland
8 New Orleans
7 Pittsburgh
6 Atlanta
5 Tennessee
4 Lions
3 NY Giants
2 Tampa Bay
1 NY Jets
 
Forgot about the Thursday game and nearly missed out!

16 Tampa Bay
15 Oakland
14 Miami
13 Green Bay
12 Denver
11 SF
10 KC
9 New Orleans
8 At;amta
7 NY Jets
6 Baltimore
5 NY Giants
4 Cleveland
3 Jacksonville
2 Buffalo
1 Detroit
 
I was told about this comp by a mate, who is also here.
So here goes it...

1 New Orleans
2 Detroit
3 Kansas City
4 Dallas
5 Baltimore
6 Cleveland
7 Oakland
8 Green Bay
9 Jacksonville
10 Buffalo
11 St Louis
12 Denver
13 Tampa Bay
14 Washington
15 San Francisco
16 Miami

beter luck next week....

I'm not Rex Hunt, neither are you
 
here we go for NFL season 2003

1. Detroit Lions
2. St. Louis Rams
3. New England Patriots
4. Philladelphia Eagles
5. Jacksonville Jaguars
6. San Francisco 49'ers
7. Indianapolis Colts
8. Oakland Raiders
9. Dallas Cowboys
10. Washington Redskins
11. New Orleans Saints
12. Green Bay Packers
13. Denver Broncos
14. Kansas City Chiefs
15. Pittsburgh Steelers
16. Miami Dolphins

:cool: :cool: :cool:
 
1. Philadelphia Eagles
2. Tennessee Titans
3. Arizona Cardinals
4. Buffalo Bills
5. Seattle Seahawks
6. Kansas City Chiefs
7. St. Louis Rams
8. Indianapolis Colts
9. Atlanta Falcons
10. Carolina Panthers
11. Green Bay Packers
12. Denver Broncos
13. Washington Redskins
14. Pittsburgh Steelers
15. San Francisco 49'ers
16. Miami Dolphins
 

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