Review 2012 List Management Thread

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Haven't we said we will be quiet players unless Kurt goes?

Have we?

Even if we think that, I can't imagine that genuinely good AFL players like Otten are going to stick around at Noarlunga.

 

[Elite Crow]

Have we?

Even if we think that, I can't imagine that genuinely good AFL players like Otten are going to stick around at Noarlunga.

Yeh, Harper said that last week. Aren't our only two uncontracted players Kurt and Thompson.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Yeh, Harper said that last week. Aren't our only two uncontracted players Kurt and Thompson.

Mattner was contracted too when he left. I just don't know why guys would stick around if they could be getting a regular game elsewhere. Similarly, having your players contracted is good insurance and means you don't risk losing them for nothing but doesn't mean we can't initiate something.

 

[NTRabbit]

Because, with some exceptions, players are confident that they are good enough to be playing in the seniors, no matter who is in front of them. It's the same reason why central midfielders continue to sign for Barcelona, if you follow the soccer, despite the team already having the three best central mids in the world already squeezing into two positions.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Because, with some exceptions, players are confident that they are good enough to be playing in the seniors, no matter who is in front of them. It's the same reason why central midfielders continue to sign for Barcelona, if you follow the soccer, despite the team already having the three best central mids in the world already squeezing into two positions.

So Knights will stick around then?

 

[AdelaideFan14]

Knights gone via FA, Geelong showing interest in Douglas

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Knights gone via FA, Geelong showing interest in Douglas

Sell! Sell! Sell!

 

[fabs33]

Sell! Sell! Sell!

The first rule of buying and selling is not to look too eager.

 

[NTRabbit]

So Knights will stick around then?

That confidence only lasts up to a point. Knights is past that point, but most others on our list won't be yet, especially the younger ones.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

That confidence only lasts up to a point. Knights is past that point, but most others on our list won't be yet, especially the younger ones.

Ivan Maric, Tony Armstrong too.

From those players point of view (I'm talking Otten, L Thompson, Martin, McKernan) they owe it to themselves to move to a club that will give them opportunities. Whatever interest there is in them now from other clubs, another season of SANFL football will only decrease their appeal. How could they take that risk?

 

[NTRabbit]

Ivan Maric, Tony Armstrong too.

From those players point of view (I'm talking Otten, L Thompson, Martin, McKernan) they owe it to themselves to move to a club that will give them opportunities. Whatever interest there is in them now from other clubs, another season of SANFL football will only decrease their appeal. How could they take that risk?

Because they won't see it as a risk. From the outside looking in like we are, it's the smart and logical decision. There's nothing especially logical going on inside their minds though.

Maric, and Knights had all reached the point where after a few years on the list, they were no longer confident of getting games. They'd been around, seen a little more of the world at work, and moved on. Thompson seems to be of the same mind, while I suspect if things stay as they are Martin will be the same way end of next season. Armstrong, who knows. Seems like he just didn't want to be here anyway. It's the same with my Barcelona example - the players think they're all top s**t because Barca wants them, they sign thinking they're going to be the next superstar playing 40-50 games across all competitions for them, stay on a high all through that first season on the bench and in the reserves, then 3 years later after a total of 10 games in the early rounds of the Copa del Rey they leave, and end up playing at Birmingham or Zenit St Petersburg, never to be heard from again.

Otten played games this year around injury and bad form, he's probably still quite confident in his own mind that he'll be playing 22 games next year.

If you can tell me what McKernan is thinking, you win a prize.

 

[Marty64]

If you can tell me what McKernan is thinking, you win a prize.

Dorothy and Toto are taking me to see the Wizard of Oz because I meed a heart.

 

[AdelaideFan14]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/148965/default.aspx

 

[PykeDream]

Dylan Orval has apparently been offered another year, according to Cameron Ellis-Yolmen's retweet of his brother's post. Confirmation pending.

 

[Vader]

Luke Thompson has signed a new contract:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/149530/default.aspx

Ian Callinan has been upgraded to the senior list, after 2 years on the rookie list:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/149568/default.aspx

 

[cmndstab]

Wow, I didn't think Orval would get another run. I haven't heard a thing about him all year. Can anyone tell me how he's been going?

 

[cmndstab]

Callinan upgraded, but another veteran on the list. Do we have any rookie selections?

 

[Hendersloane]

Might be wrong but wasn't Orval rookie listed as a bit of a 'project', sort of a Gunston type in the way he plays? Hopefully can push into Centrals league side permanently next year so we see a bit more of him.

 

[Vader]

Callinan upgraded, but another veteran on the list. Do we have any rookie selections?

Depends on who they choose to cut loose. Can't see (James) Craig or (Sam) Martyn getting another extension, though Martyn's departure wouldn't generate a free rookie spot as he's an ex-NSW scholarship holder. Young is already gone, so there's one rookie position freed up.

 

[Elder van Berlo]

Might be wrong but wasn't Orval rookie listed as a bit of a 'project', sort of a Gunston type in the way he plays? Hopefully can push into Centrals league side permanently next year so we see a bit more of him.

Yes and he was coming off a knee reco, so I don't think a whole lot was expected of him this year. He had some complications with his knee and had a cleanout about halfway through the season, but came back and played a few games with Centrals' seconds after that. Don't know why he didn't play for them in the finals, whether he was put on ice for the year or just dropped.

 

[Elder van Berlo]

Great job on keeping the OP up to date, NTRabbit

 

[Hank93]

NTRabbit Might want to drop all selections down accordingly after the compensation picks were handed out yesterday. e.g Swans pick goes from 22 to 23.

 

[PykeDream]

Question: Is this thread for confirmed movements or just the trade period in general?

 

[NTRabbit]

You can talk about things if they don't already have a rumour thread of their own, but I don't update the OP until a move is confirmed

 

[Mismatched]

Might be wrong but wasn't Orval rookie listed as a bit of a 'project', sort of a Gunston type in the way he plays? Hopefully can push into Centrals league side permanently next year so we see a bit more of him.

Glad to hear we've given him another shot. When you're picking up young guys on the rookie list, especially when they're talls, they're never going to be plug and play, they're development types. I think there was a few times under Craigy where we judged these guys too harshly in their first year, with Curnow and Lee being prime examples.