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Kinda hard to do before a draw but

1. Hawthorn (good run with injuries will see them extremely hard to beat)
2. Collingwood (game plan has been figured out, will be tougher to win)
3. Geelong (Getting older but still have stars, probably last hurrah for a number of Cats)
4. Carlton (will improve on last year with Waite forward)
5. West Coast (Had easy draw + brilliant run with injuries in 2011 will be harder in 2012)
6. Sydney (With no real losses to list should improve)
7. Fremantle (Have the class and following a cpl years of bad injuries, a competent coach will also help)
8/9/10. Essendon, North Melbourne, Richmond (any order)
11. Adelaide
12. Brisbane
13. St Kilda
14. Bulldogs
15. Melbourne
16. GC
17. Port
18. GWS

But as mentioned allot will depend on that sort of draws teams get.
 
A trend I've noticed, and I'm genuinely curious - why do the vast majority of posters believe Essendon will regress next season? The biggest problem Hirdy inherited was the incompetence of the fitness staff, which he's already gone some lengths to addressing. And when you consider the upside in players like Hurley, Pears, Heppell, Zaharakis, Bellchambers, et al... well, I don't quite understand the general view.


Everyone who makes a list always wants to remove a team or two from the top 8 and its often the 7th and 8th teams that make way when they are deciding

When teams get a new coach they tend to play better for around 6 games before slipping back into old habbits but I expect Hird will be able to inspire his players again next year and at least do as well as next year, another reason is beause they had a terrible year with injuries and i cant see them being that bad next year.
 
Getting really sick of Sydney supporters...

This :thumbsu:

There is always a couple of people that come in and predict a small slide from the Swans and it opens up a shit storm.

Get over yourselves Sydney, it's a fun predictions thread!
 

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1. Hawthorn
2. Geelong
3. Carlton
4. Collingwood

Top 4 set in stone with only Freo a chance to take a spot.
Will cop abuse about pies in 4th but think that unlike other years where there has been one or two teams who have broke away with only 1-3 losses the top 4 next will be very tight with one game or percentage being the difference b/w 1 and 4. Put pies in 4th for the simple fact that I'm not sold on Buckley yet. That's not saying they can't win the flag.

5. Freo (if injury free have a super list)
6. West Coast (Wouldn't surprise if 4th was a blip but good enough for finals)
7. Richmond (Have the midfield that should now be ready to mix it with the big boys)
8. Essendon (no feel change on last year. Equal parts excitement and dissapointment)
9. Sydney (Goodes, ROK and Bolton get them over the line a lot and they are in their twilight)
10. St Kilda (door is shut for a few years)
11. North (list not strong enough. Will fight as always)
12. Melbourne (Could suprise, just don't they will)
13. Adelaide (Go Sando!)
14. Bulldogs (see St Kilda but list not as strong)
15. Brisbane (Care factor = zero)
16. GC (could really suprise this year. Will at least be competitive.
17. Port (Will challenge GWS for easybeat status)
18. GWS (Wpnt be as bad as everyone thinks)
 
Me too actually...

Relax kids, you're making us look bad

Agree, though it's not only Sydney supporters. Essendon fans seem to hate when their side is predicted to miss the 8 and generally North and Saints supporters don't deal with it well either.
 
1. Geelong
2. Collingwood
3. Hawthorn
4. North Melbourne
5. Carlton
6. West Coast
7. St Kilda
8. Fremantle
9. Gold Coast
10. Richmond
11 Brisbane
12. Adelaide
13. Essendon
14. Sydney
15. Melbourne
16. Western Bulldogs
17. Port
18. GWS

Brownlow: Ablett
Premiers: Geelong
 
These guys have very shaky injury records.

If Cox goes down is Natanui ready for solo ruck work (support form Lycett)? Without Kerr is Priddis enough to win the clearances? What happens if Mckenzie can't get a hold of a Cloke, Petrie or Franklin?

Then there is your impending draw which will be much harder then this years, and the fact that the press is already on its way out (short fast ball movement is the key, thank you Clarkson).

I see it falling apart for West Coast. Maybe I am wrong

1) Fair enough point, which I suggested in my post.

2) As I said Kerr only played around 12-15 games this year from memory. We seemed to do okay without him (inc. both derby wins.)

3) Does Glass actually have a shaky injury record? I could be wrong but I only really remember him missing a huge chunk of 2010, otherwise not so much? As for Mackenzie, he DOES take the best forward each week as it is.
 
St Kilda will bounce back into top 4, providing Lenny Hayes returns to his best form.

I expect they will enjoy hearing a new message, once they get around to appointing a coach.

The Hayes injury knocked them about last year, mentally and in terms of team balance.
 
Stop being an arrogant twat, the Tigers have more improvement in them than the Swans do.

Nice way to speak to a lady.:o Btw you are kidding yourself about the Tigers having more improvement than Swans.Arrogance is a fool who supports the current Premiership team and gets on a forum and sits in judgement of teams below.Vonn would buy you at one corner and sell you at the next when it comes to footy knowledge.
 
Back to back for Geelong. Scarlett as a 7 time All-Australian to go out swinging. It's going to be great.
 
:D:thumbsu: To anybody who didn't put the Tigers in 9th spot.

:thumbsd::mad: To anybody who did put the Tigers in 9th spot.



I think we'll probably finish bloody 9th.....
 
I really like the North List for next season. Plus the pre season training from utah will come into play this season. Love our back line. Love the midfield especially the way ziebell played towards the end of the year. Our Forward line is our weakness but hopefully harvey is thrown to a forward pocket next season. Plus we had a horrible pre-season with injuries. Watch out for LT next season in the midfield.
 

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1) Fair enough point, which I suggested in my post.

2) As I said Kerr only played around 12-15 games this year from memory. We seemed to do okay without him (inc. both derby wins.)

3) Does Glass actually have a shaky injury record? I could be wrong but I only really remember him missing a huge chunk of 2010, otherwise not so much? As for Mackenzie, he DOES take the best forward each week as it is.

But you are irrefutably a better side with Kerr in and I just can't bring myself to believe that he won't break down again.

On Glass, my main concern is that his body shape, compiled with his age makes him the type liable to suddenly deteriorate (Bradshaw style). McKenzie certainly does take the best tall each week, but you always need a back up plan in case it isn't working out (happens to all defenders at one point or another).

Bigger than these issues is that the press, which was a big part of the Eagles success, seems to be unravelling. With a side that isn't quick, younger teams might get a hold of you in 2012. If teams perfect the short lateral ball movement style then you will see presses collapse as it only takes a clean possession to find a little space and the other team is away.
 
pies to absolutely dominate the season. with a better run with injuries/suspensions in 2nd half of the year they will sh!t the flag in just as they would have this year with better continuity of footy in their GF 22. will lose 1-2 games for the season

carlton to emerge as the genuine threat to the pies next finals series

geel to hold their ground in the top 4 but drop from top 2

eagles to drop not just from the top 4 but the top 8

hawks to remain around 4-5 but not to make the jump many are predicting

freo to surge. could replace hawks in top 4

saints to destruct even further on field. list in total disarray

richmond to be the real surprise packet of the season. will finish 5-6

syd to finish 6-8, win an elimination final and lose a semi honorouably (that's their annual lot these days isn't it?)

rest can please themselves really
 
1. Geelong - Players will be better for the run in 2011.
2. Essendon - Will be a major player in trade week plus improve fitness.
3. Carlton - Have a taste for it now, and Jeannie Pratt has plently of bags filled with cash for a decent forward (and Judd).
4. Brisbane - A decent run with injuries and the sky's the limit
5. Adelaide - May have found one in S.Thompson.
6. Fremantle - Much will depend on Barlow keeping his leg in one piece.
7. Suns - They will do some clever things.
8. GWS - The thinner bodied players will find space in the packs.
9. Sydney - Longmire is only slightly smarter than a rock ape.
10. West Coast - Now that the mad chemist has his contract normality will resume.
11. Richmond - Riewoldt will be underutilised again.
12. Power - Will win the odd game.
13. Nth Melbourne - Overachieved in 2011, will fall away badly.
14. Melbourne - Really should be forced to move or fold.
15. Collingwood - Will be coached by an imbecile, enough said.
16. Western Bulldogs - No Hall, no Acker, no culture, no point.
17. St Kilda - Will be coached by a broom handle plus Riewoldt penis to reemerge over the break.

Wowee!!
 
pies to absolutely dominate the season. with a better run with injuries/suspensions in 2nd half of the year they will sh!t the flag in just as they would have this year with better continuity of footy in their GF 22. will lose 1-2 games for the season

carlton to emerge as the genuine threat to the pies next finals series

geel to hold their ground in the top 4 but drop from top 2

eagles to drop not just from the top 4 but the top 8

hawks to remain around 4-5 but not to make the jump many are predicting

freo to surge. could replace hawks in top 4

saints to destruct even further on field. list in total disarray

richmond to be the real surprise packet of the season. will finish 5-6

syd to finish 6-8, win an elimination final and lose a semi honorouably (that's their annual lot these days isn't it?)

rest can please themselves really

Hawthorn finished 3rd not 4/5...
 
1. Hawthorn Hawks
Very strong list and one of the most potent forward lines in the competition, will be very hard to beat next year.

2. Collingwood Magpies
Despite losing Malthouse, I still see the Pies being a strong force next year with a still young and powerful list.

3. West Coast Eagles
Barring any large inflow of injuries, I see the Eagles being a strong contender again next year.

4. Carlton Blues
Still boasting a strong mid field and quality list, will be hard to see them falling too far.

5. Geelong Cats
The slide down the ladder has to come sometime, doubt they'll fall to far though.

6. Essendon Bombers
Should see some improvement in Hird's second year as coach, another year to develop the gameplan will help.

7. Sydney Swans
Sydney to hang around the 6 - 8 mark again next year, being largely consistant with a few shock losses.

8. Fremantle Dockers
Injury will prevent the Dockers from reaching their potential again, just scraping into the finals.

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9. North Melbourne Kangaroos
Always seem to be around the 9 - 11 mark, should finally break into the finals next year with another year into their young players but could be unlucky again, just missing out.

10. Adelaide Crows
New coach and therefore gameplan and outlook should work wonders for an otherwise heavily talented and young list.

11. Brisbane Lions
Significant improvement towards the end of the season, I'm predicting a reasonable climb.

12. Richmond Tigers
Another year of stagnation and hovering around the 9 - 12 mark on the ladder for the Tigers.

13. Melbourne Demons
Predicting a slide, Melbourne to become more consistant, for all the wrong reasons in 2012.

14. Gold Coast Suns
Can only go up in 2012, another year into their young guns will see them climb, 2013 to be thier breakout year.

15. Western Bulldogs
Losing Hall and Hudson will be a harsh blow and adjusting to a new gameplan to take time.

16. Saint Kilda Saints
Were lucky in 2011 to break their poor early season form to make finals, I don't see this happening again, rebuilding to begin over the next couple of years.

17. Port Adelaide Power
Unfortunately, I don't see where the improvement is going to come from to greatly improve on 2010 for the Power.

18. Greater Western Sydney Giants
No real star power, unlike the Gold Coast this year, they don't have superstar to lead them. Doubt they'll win a game.
 

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1 - Collingwood. Still too much class
2 - Hawthorn. The most well rounded team in the comp + Roughead back
3 - Carlton. Getting better every year, still missing KPF though
4 - Geelong. Some important players will be lost to retirement.
5 - West Coast. Quality young side, well rounded team.
6 - St Kilda. Bounce back after a horrid year
7 - Fremantle. On the assumption they remain fit.
8 - Essendon. Still not a complete enough team to improve on last season

9 - Sydney. Will revisit this after trade week and draft.
10 - Richmond. Still a mid, a ruckmen and a KPB away from finals
11 - Nort Melbourne. Last season outside the 8, just not there yet
12 - Bulldogs. Still have a quality core group on the delcine though
13 - Brisbane. Re signed good core group of young guns, only way is up
14 - Melbourne. Back line is strong, rest of the ground is shaky.
15 - Adelaide. Will re - evaluate if trade rumors are un true.
16 - Gold Coast. Still the young boys running around with men.
17 - Port. Resigned key players but still the same team.
18 - GWS - No explanations needed

Brownlow - Pendlebury, Selwood tie
Coleman - Franklin
Premiers - Collingwood
Norm Smith - Cloke

So much Collingwood praise really hurt. But honestly they are a quality outfit.
 
Cant see Richmond finishing above North!!
 
1. hawthorn
2. fremantle
3. carlton
4. geelong
5. collingwood
6. melbourne
7. west coast
8. north

9. richmond
10. sydney
11. essendon
12. adelaide
13. western bulldogs
14. st kilda
15. brisbane
16. gold coast
17. port
18. gws
 
Geeze Melbourne have to be the most variable side on here. Have had people predict us to be anywhere from 2nd to 17th.

Personally I think the amount of people that have us in the bottom 4 is laughable, but it is the team that will have to prove the people wrong next year.
 
Geeze Melbourne have to be the most variable side on here. Have had people predict us to be anywhere from 2nd to 17th.

Personally I think the amount of people that have us in the bottom 4 is laughable, but it is the team that will have to prove the people wrong next year.

can you blame them after your 2011 season?
 
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