Strategy 2016 Draft Needs

[Team DJ]

Wouldnt mind shipping out Henderson and Grigg then working out an "Agreement" with Sam Shaw to move him on too.

That would open up 7 list spots.
4 draft picks (Berry, Graham, Jarman, Hampton)
2 rookie upgrades (RoB and Beech)
1 DFA (Michael Barlow)

 

[Wouldbetackler]

Have we got a few highlight tapes of the players we are hoping are still avail at our picks? Particularly our later picks?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

You might be pissed but actually several of the players we might look at have played in defence as well as mid and forward in guys like Jarrod Berry, Griffin Logue and Jordan Ridley. Patrick Dangerfield for example played off half back almost exclusively in the TAC Cup Comp and Brad Crouch also spent quite a bit of his TAC and junior games off half back.

And Rory Sloane for Vic metro ( including playing on Chris Yarran)

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Wouldnt mind shipping out Henderson and Grigg then working out an "Agreement" with Sam Shaw to move him on too.

That would open up 7 list spots.
4 draft picks (Berry, Graham, Jarman, Hampton)
2 rookie upgrades (RoB and Beech)
1 DFA (Michael Barlow)

Please don't recruit another Hampton

One is enough

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Please no....and I've seen Cedric Cox up close on 4 occasions this year plus the televised game, undoubtedly talented and skilled but he's an over ager and will need to add more inside work to his game IMO....... and will take time before AFL ready....not a first rounder IMO.

This won't happen Bicks all good

maybe for pick 43 - remember that time they thought we wanted Maynard at pick 14 when he was more likely in mix for pick 35 ( wigg)

 

[Bicks]

Cal Twomey's assessment of who we and other clubs may be looking at.
We have identified a player who may be available, plus three others who might be in that draft picks' range.

Pick 13: Pick 13 is an interesting spot at this year's draft, given it may push out a couple of places with academy bids being matched. Jy Simpkin is a player who could be a nice pick-up at this stage, having fallen off the radar a little with his broken leg. Simpkin is a creative half-forward/midfielder who showed great signs last year as a bottom-ager for Vic Country. If not for the injury, he would likely have been in regular discussions as a possible top-10 pick. He has been steadily recovering from the injury and should be right to go for the pre-season.
Around the mark: Jordan Gallucci, Jarrod Berry, Alex Witherden

Pick 3: The Lions traded back from pick two to pick three to bring in another top-20 selection. If the Bombers take Andrew McGrath at No.1 then the Giants could let Hugh McCluggage through to Brisbane, which would be their preference. But if not, then Ben Ainsworth will be strongly considered. The small forward is explosive, smart and skillful, and in time will be a midfield option. He's ready to play and averaged 29 disposals in the final month of his TAC Cup season with the Gippsland Power. The Lions may also place a bid on Gold Coast academy member Jack Bowes.

Around the mark: Will Brodie, Andrew McGrath, Jack Bowes

Pick 5: Carlton was desperate to hold onto pick five during the trade period and for good reason, because there will be some strong talent available. The Blues could easily place a bid here on GWS midfielder Will Setterfield, who is ranked around this point by many. The Giants would likely match it. Will Brodie is a contender for this spot. The hard-at-it midfielder performed in all of his big games throughout the year and is a consistent ball-winner at the stoppages. He would appeal as a player who can bolster an up-and-coming midfield unit.

Around the mark: Sam Petrevski-Seton, Tim Taranto, Jack Scrimshaw

Pick 28: Two tall defenders left the Pies during the trade period and Jonathon Marsh remains in limbo, so they could look to add a developing young backman at the draft. That could be Brennan Cox, a 194cm defender who was named an All Australian following his under-18 championships for South Australia. Cox is strong in the one-on-one contests and has been a consistent shutdown player across the season. He has some fans as a top-30 selection.

Around the mark: Callum Brown, Jordan Ridley, Jonty Scharenberg

Pick 1: Hugh McCluggage really couldn't have done much more this season as a creative, goalkicking midfielder. He booted 25 goals in 12 games for the North Ballarat Rebels, he won the TAC Cup's Morrish Medal, and was Vic Country's MVP at the championships. He still has plenty of upside, too, given a limited pre-season and his lighter frame. Pick No.1 appears a race in two – McCluggage and Vic Metro co-captain Andrew McGrath. The Bombers can't really lose either way with this pair.

Around the mark: Andrew McGrath, Will Brodie, Sam Petrevski-Seton

Pick 7: The Dockers will be able to sit back and wait to see which players fall through the opening group on draft night. There's a good chance local product Sam Petrevski-Seton is still available at their choice, and they have monitored him closely this season. He also trained at the club earlier this year as part of his NAB AFL Academy program. He might not be exactly what they need, but he offers class, pace and tackling pressure and two years ago was predicted to be the No.1 pick after a brilliant under-16 carnival.

Around the mark: Tim English, Tim Taranto, Todd Marshall

Pick 24: Geelong's tall forward stocks are slim behind star big man Tom Hawkins, which might make them have a think about key forward Josh Battle. The Dandenong Stingrays goalkicker is 192cm and plays in a conventional style, running up and down the ground and converting his shots. He booted 24 goals in eight games for the Stingrays this year and is a lovely, uncomplicated kick for goal. He seems likely to be selected in this area of the draft, either late in the first round or early in the second.

Around the mark: Cedric Cox, Alex Witherden, Shai Bolton

Pick 4: The Brisbane Lions seem best placed to make a bid on Suns academy member Jack Bowes, which would force Gold Coast to match with its first pick. Given their four top-10 picks, the Suns are in a position to add Bowes and still grab another three highly rated players. Bowes is a classy midfielder originally from Cairns who was named an All Australian this season. He is a great ball user, really smart in traffic, and can move forward and kick goals. He has been in the Suns' sights for some time.

Around the mark: Jack Scrimshaw, Tim English, Ben Ainsworth, Sam Petrevski-Seton

Pick 2: The Giants lifted themselves up the draft order from pick seven to three and finally landed at No.2 in order to give themselves a chance at grabbing a gun youngster before bids come for their academy players. Andrew McGrath, should he not be picked by Essendon at No.1, looks a prime candidate. The rebounding small defender turned powerful midfielder will be playing regular senior football next year and is considered a future leader, too.

Around the mark: Hugh McCluggage, Tim English, Ben Ainsworth

Pick 88: This year's crop is so even it is difficult to predict the early stages, let alone who might be available deep in the fifth round. Whoever the Hawks pick here, we think the old line 'We thought he'd be gone by that pick' will get rolled out on draft night. Could it be Ben Jarman, the club's potential father-son pick? Jarman has a choice to make between nominating the Crows or Hawks as his first preference, but either way he fits in as a later pick. The Hawks' picks are worth no bidding points right now (until the draft order changes on the night when clubs start to pass), but they can still match a bid by going into deficit next year.

Pick 47: Through some quality drafting and trading in recent years, the Demons have most bases covered well on their list. They are perhaps short on tall defenders, though, and may look at their first pick to bolster that department. Victorian Jack Maibaum consistently nullifies opponents and was named an All Australian defender for his carnival performance with Vic Metro. He doesn't gather plenty of the ball, but can hold down a stopping role and cut players out of the game.

Around the mark: Hamish Brayshaw, Elliott Himmelberg, Luke Ryan

Pick 11: If the Roos are looking for pace and class, they might be able to find it in Oliver Florent. The Sandringham Dragons midfielder finished his season in terrific form, starring in their TAC Cup premiership win and backing it up with a best afield display in the NAB All Stars game on Grand Final eve with 27 disposals. Florent moves nicely through traffic, kicks it well and has some spark about him. He would be a nice fit at Arden Street.

Around the mark: Sam Petrevski-Seton, Daniel Venables, Jordan Gallucci

Pick 14: The Power need some more polish through their midfield and quality users of the ball. Alex Witherden could be one worth looking at for that purpose. The Geelong Falcon has missed most of the year with a broken leg but is one of the best kicks in the draft, a key reason clubs still see him fitting in the back half of the first round. He will start his career as an attacking half-back but has the nous and smarts to eventually progress into the midfield. If not for his injury Witherden would likely have spent more time in the middle this year.

Around the mark: Jordan Gallucci, Will Hayward, Tim Taranto

Pick 27: It has been a swift rise up the draft board for Cedric Cox this year, having moved from Western Australia to Camperdown last year before playing for the North Ballarat Rebels in 2016. Cox played his best footy as a rebounding half-back, where his pace and skill impressed. He also moved up the ground and onto the wing, and occasionally across half-forward, where he was able to highlight his versatility. He seems likely to be a second-round selection.
Around the mark: Pat Kerr, Sam Powell-Pepper, Jordan Ridley

 

[Bicks]

Pick 23: The Saints traded out of the first round and gained multiple second-round, plus extra 1st round presence next year, Powerful midfielder Sam Pepper Powell could be an option at their first choice, No.23. The West Australian is a busy, tough, bullocking midfielder who barges through the traffic and has a great athletic profile. Another who come into consideration if the Saints want to beef up their young tall stocks is 196cm Defender Elliott Himmelberg. He has been off the radar after suffering a leg injury mid-season but has talent. He's the younger brother of GWS pick-up Harrison, but is not tied to a Northern Academy.

Around the mark: Will Hayward, Alex Witherden, Brennan Cox.

Pick 9: The Swans have moved up the draft order with a player clearly in mind. Who is it? We'll have to wait and see. It could be Griffin Logue, the key defender who pushed himself right up the ranks late in the season. Sydney could do with an up-and-coming young tall back, and Logue might be the best one in this year's pool. The athletic big man ran 15.1 in the beep test at the NAB AFL Draft Combine and came in the top-five for the 3km time trial – traits he used to move into the midfield late in the year. He's ready to play.

Around the mark: Tim Taranto, Will Brodie, Oliver Florent

Pick 12: Tim Taranto might still be on the board at this pick despite his excellent end to the season. A goalkicking midfielder who steps up at the big moments in games, the Sandringham Dragon enjoyed a consistent year and has an excellent endurance base (he has run a 15.9 beep test). His marking and size give him a point of difference as a midfielder and Taranto booted four goals in the NAB All Stars game on Grand Final eve. The Eagles would need to look closely if he's available at their first choice.

Around the mark: Tim English, Todd Marshall, Shai Bolton

Pick 18: South Australian Will Hayward shot up the draft board late in the year with some great performances at under-18 level. The exciting half-forward kicked nine goals in a preliminary final and four goals the Grand Final, and is likely to be the first player from his state to be picked. The Dogs like natural footballers – their flag team was built on them – and Hayward has shown his instincts as a great overhead mark and a prospect with good goal sense.

Around the mark: Jy Simpkin, Jordan Gallucci, Jarrod Berry

 

[Bicks]

Bloody hell if this kid Fergus Greene can football as well as his beep test today at the Rookie testing he'd be pretty bloody special...that is elite plus..

Only 17 Y.O. so one to keep an eye on for next year....

 

[Elite Crow]

Roo on MMM said we have enough outside run so it's pretty clear which type of midfielder we will be going for.

 

[Bicks]

Roo on MMM said we have enough outside run so it's pretty clear which type of midfielder we will be going for.

Not necessarily EC, there's quite a few mids in this draft that offer both inside/outside like Jarrod Berry, Sam Powell Pepper, Daniel Venables, Oliver Florent, Tim Taranto, Jordan Galluci, Willem Drew etc. and all of those named are capable of hitting the scoreboard big time as well and most are capable of playing multiple roles aside from in the midfield.

 

[Bicks]

 

[Bicks]

 

[Bicks]

 

[Bicks]

 

[Bicks]

 

[I Lost My Keays]

Thoughts on Willem Drew?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Not necessarily EC, there's quite a few mids in this draft that offer both inside/outside like Jarrod Berry, Sam Powell Pepper, Daniel Venables, Oliver Florent, Tim Taranto, Jordan Galluci, Willem Drew etc. and all of those named are capable of hitting the scoreboard big time as well and most are capable of playing multiple roles aside from in the midfield.

It makes a Simpkin type less likely

Contested ball and burst speed will be the traits they are after . Another Brad Crouch type ( even though he didn't demonstrate the speed much this year )

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Thoughts on Willem Drew?

Reckon we'd take him at 43 if he was there but not 13

 

[Bicks]

Thoughts on Willem Drew?

we won't take him with Pick 13 but if he's still there at 43 start the car...
Knightmare's bio nails it pretty well all bar the endurance comment, he runs all day as was proven by his 3km Combine of 10m08s. I've seen a lot of him and I rate his kicking better than KM does ..

10. Willem Drew (VIC)
Best position: Inside midfield
Height, weight: 188cm, 78kg
Recruited from: North Ballarat Rebels
Plays like: Jack Ziebell
Projected draft range: second to third round
Rated last month: 10
Rationale behind ranking/change of ranking: Arguably matched if not exceed the impact of teammate McCluggage through the TAC Cup finals. Has had an outstanding season through the midfield with his contested-ball winning, aggression at the ball and tackling are as good as any in this draft.
Strengths:
- Stoppage specialist
- Wins first possession at stoppages
- Contested-ball winning
- Aggressive tackler
- Clean below knees
- Courage to win 50/50 ball without fear of getting hurt
- Strength
- Capable mark overhead
- Scoreboard impact
- Acceleration
- Versatility to play forward or back as required
- Reads flight well and takes intercept marks
- Late season has started to run to better spots on the outside to become a more frequent and useful link player
- Strength of TAC Cup performances
Weaknesses:
- Limited opportunities through midfield during the under-18 championships and end-of-season Under-18 All Stars match leaves him slightly unproven against best competition in the country
- Limited outside hurt factor as an infrequent linebreaker with an only average kick
- Endurance
- From stoppages he rushes kicks, too often bombing long to a general area near one of his teammates rather than taking time to find an open target by foot

 

[Jeffcrowe]

we won't take him with Pick 13 but if he's still there at 43 start the car...
Knightmare's bio nails it pretty well all bar the endurance comment, he runs all day as was proven by his 3km Combine of 10m08s. I've seen a lot of him and I rate his kicking better than KM does ..

10. Willem Drew (VIC)
Best position: Inside midfield
Height, weight: 188cm, 78kg
Recruited from: North Ballarat Rebels
Plays like: Jack Ziebell
Projected draft range: second to third round
Rated last month: 10
Rationale behind ranking/change of ranking: Arguably matched if not exceed the impact of teammate McCluggage through the TAC Cup finals. Has had an outstanding season through the midfield with his contested-ball winning, aggression at the ball and tackling are as good as any in this draft.
Strengths:
- Stoppage specialist
- Wins first possession at stoppages
- Contested-ball winning
- Aggressive tackler
- Clean below knees
- Courage to win 50/50 ball without fear of getting hurt
- Strength
- Capable mark overhead
- Scoreboard impact
- Acceleration
- Versatility to play forward or back as required
- Reads flight well and takes intercept marks
- Late season has started to run to better spots on the outside to become a more frequent and useful link player
- Strength of TAC Cup performances
Weaknesses:
- Limited opportunities through midfield during the under-18 championships and end-of-season Under-18 All Stars match leaves him slightly unproven against best competition in the country
- Limited outside hurt factor as an infrequent linebreaker with an only average kick
- Endurance
- From stoppages he rushes kicks, too often bombing long to a general area near one of his teammates rather than taking time to find an open target by foot

I'd say he lacks a little class compared to a higher 1st rounder but you can see him being an AFL footballer which quite a few won't get to

 

[Bicks]

I'd say he lacks a little class compared to a higher 1st rounder but you can see him being an AFL footballer which quite a few won't get to

I'm tipping he'll have a better career than quite a few taken ahead of him, what he has in spades is manic attack on the ball and man and a thirst for the contest which I don't see in several that will likely go 1st round early 2nd....Some of the "sexier" players are yet to really prove they can handle the contested stuff that is the AFL....Drew will!

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I'm tipping he'll have a better career than quite a few taken ahead of him, what he has in spades is manic attack on the ball and man and a thirst for the contest which I don't see in several that will likely go 1st round early 2nd....Some of the "sexier" players are yet to really prove they can handle the contested stuff that is the AFL....Drew will!

This is probably right

 

[Stiffy_18]

I'm tipping he'll have a better career than quite a few taken ahead of him, what he has in spades is manic attack on the ball and man and a thirst for the contest which I don't see in several that will likely go 1st round early 2nd....Some of the "sexier" players are yet to really prove they can handle the contested stuff that is the AFL....Drew will!

You have just described someone that Bulldogs will probably be all over.

 

[Wouldbetackler]

So of the players linked to us at 13 can we rank them in order of who would benefit us with strengths and weaknesses

 

[Bicks]

http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne...team-has-the-most-points-in-this-years-draft/

The AFL recently introduced a points system for the draft, allowing teams a fair measure of using their draft picks on academy players and father-son picks.


Pick one (3000 points) down to pick 71 (one point) and every selection in between has its own value.

It's a good measure of assessing the strength of each pick.

Combine them all and it's a good measure of assessing how much each team has invested in the draft for that year, with teams trading selections in or out based on their needs.

So who holds the most points?

That honour goes to Gold Coast, who, with picks four, six, eight and 10 hold a whopping 6740 points.

That's the equivalent of holding pick one twice, and then some.

Despite making it to a preliminary final GWS comes in second, holding 6014 points worth of draft picks, thanks to a raft of young guns leaving the club.

The Giants traded their way up to pick two and - remarkably - hold six selections from 52 to 60.

Hawthorn, unsurprisingly, come in last, as they enter the draft at pick 88.

Melbourne sit just behind them, having traded out their first round pick last year and trading selections out for Jordan Lewis and Michael Hibberd.

Who holds the most draft points this year?
(club, draft points, selections)

1. Gold Coast (6740 points) (4, 6, 8, 10, 73, 98, 116, 134)
2. GWS (6014 points) (2, 15, 37, 39, 45, 52, 55, 57, 58, 59, 60, 77, 109, 127, 135, 145)
3. Essendon (5036 points) (1, 20, 29, 41, 68, 95, 113, 131)
4. Brisbane (5024 points) (3, 16, 21, 22, 76, 78, 96, 114, 132)
5. Port Adelaide (3421 points) (14, 17, 30, 31, 85, 103, 121, 139)
6. Carlton (3167 points) (5, 25, 48, 63, 66, 70, 81, 99, 117)
7. Sydney (3035 points) (9, 19, 46, 49, 93, 111, 129, 147)
8. Fremantle (2624 points) (7, 35, 40, 71, 79, 97, 115, 133)
9. North Melbourne (2476 points) (11, 32, 33, 87, 92, 123, 141)
10. West Coast (2030 points) (12, 34, 54, 106, 124, 142)
11. Western Bulldogs (1987 points) (18, 26, 50, 75, 80, 94, 112, 130, 148)
12. Adelaide (1892 points) (13, 43, 53, 67, 89, 107, 125, 143)
13. Geelong (1765 points) (24, 38, 42, 64, 72, 74, 91, 110, 128, 146)
14. Collingwood (1511 points) (28, 44, 51, 62, 65, 83, 101, 105, 119, 137)
15. St Kilda (1452 points) (23, 36, 61, 86, 104, 122, 140)
16. Richmond (897 points) (27, 56, 82, 100, 118, 136)
17. Melbourne (365 points) (47, 69, 84, 102, 120, 138)
18. Hawthorn (0 points) (88, 90, 108, 126, 144)