Hot Topic 2016 DRAFT

[KohPhi]

If English is still available at 25, should we take him?

Without a shadow of a doubt.

 

[TerryWallet]

Terry Wallace had us taking Scrimshaw.......at #5.

Not sure there was any intel behind it.......probably not.

That was my...oops, i mean Terry's own rankings, not a phantom Harks.

No intel. Just his rating.

 

[Soapy V]

If English is still available at 25, should we take him?

not for me. we need mids or mobile running players. very good draft fro them and we shouldn't waste it. ruckman you can get later

 

[Arr0w]

not for me. we need mids or mobile running players. very good draft fro them and we shouldn't waste it. ruckman you can get later

I don't even rate him as a ruckman, more a developing forward for me

 

[ParapMarkets]

When was the last time two Scotsman were taken with picks 1 and 2?

McGrath is Irish, McCluggage could be either Irish or Scottish. General rule of thumb is that Mc is Irish and Mac is Scottish (not always but predominately is the case).

 

[MightyMighties]

McGrath is Irish, McCluggage could be either Irish or Scottish. General rule of thumb is that Mc is Irish and Mac is Scottish (not always but predominately is the case).

O'Dear, thanks for clarifying

 

[rp84]

A few days away so thought I'd transcribe whats on my whiteboard to the BF forum. No real clue of the points system but believe both GCS and GWS may be in deficit for next year with the hope of trading back and securing spots in 2018.


#1 - Essendon
Andrew McGrath (179cm, 75kg halfback) Sandringham Dragons
Averaged most disposals in TAC Cup as a midfielder and most disposals at championships of any defender. Due to his skill set, leadership and ability to play all over the ground I believe he would perfectly complement Essendon's recent draftees in Parish and Francis whilst filling the void by running off half back.

#2 - GWS
Hugh McCluggage (185cm, 75kg midfielder) North Ballarat Rebels
Goal kicking midfielder who could have easily gone pick #1 based on his achievements to date and his talent. Averaged 24 disposals and two goals in 17 games.

#3 - Brisbane
Ben Ainsworth (179cm, 74kg forward) Gippsland Power
They are in for a huge win with this guy. Will start forward making their attack formidable in years to come alongside their recent draftees. He may also play stints in the midfield after recent results where he demonstrated his midfield capabilities, averaging 29 disposals and three goals in final four games.

#4 - GCS
Tim Taranto (186cm, 82kg midfielder) Sandringham Dragons
Inside/outside midfielder who possesses pace, tackling ability, aerial prowess and goal sense.
Averaged most SuperCoach points in TAC Cup and third most in the championships. Averaged more contested marks than any other TAC Cup midfielder.


#5 - GCS (Matched Carlton's bid)
Jack Bowes (187cm, 78kg midfielder) Cairns/Gold Coast academy
Extremely skillful inside/outside midfielder who wins his own ball, uses it efficiently, hits the scoreboard and is the perfect addition to bolster their midfield.

#6 - GWS (Matched Carlton's bid)
Will Setterfield (190cm, 80kg midfielder) Sandringham Dragons/GWS academy
Big bodied midfielder with good disposal who can play defensively or offensively. Possesses elite contested and defensive pressure highlighted by his 16 tackles in a TAC Cup final.

#7 - Carlton
Sam Petrevski-Seton (181cm, 75kg midfielder) Claremont
An elite kick on either foot, terrific pace and excellent evasive qualities. SPS would add a plenty of much needed class to Carlton through the midfield and across half-forward. Won more than 50 per cent of possessions contested in WAFL Colts and ranked in the top 10 for tackles.

I would think GWS goes Ainsworth or Taranto over Mcluggage. Stupid paddlepops will have the best mid in the draft fall in their lap at 3. Doubt they will bid on Bowes because of this.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

not for me. we need mids or mobile running players. very good draft fro them and we shouldn't waste it. ruckman you can get later

That is my concern, we need mids but if someone like English who could be anything... but could be nothing.. falls in our lap should we take the gamble. My instinct thinks that if enough teams have passed over him then there is probably a good reason why.

 

[Soapy V]

That is my concern, we need mids but if someone like English who could be anything... but could be nothing.. falls in our lap should we take the gamble. My instinct thinks that if enough teams have passed over him then there is probably a good reason why.

agree. he looks the goods but we need lots of mids and this is a mids draft. english could take 3-4 years before we know anything. do we really want to do that? ruckman are such a huge gamble at this age. we could easily get a very good one as a rookie. remember sam jacobs?

 

[Jimmae]

If English is still available at 25, should we take him?

The only risk there is if we call the wrong registration number out. Too good not to go in the top 15.

Sounds like the Top 5 will get another shakeup in the coming week. How often does that happen?

I wont be surprised if Essendon opt for McGrath over McCluggage, as I see him as the best, most complete player in the draft. What would be the logic behind GWS taking Taranto? Looking for the next Fyfe?

Not sure how Taranto is Fyfe.

That is my concern, we need mids but if someone like English who could be anything... but could be nothing.. falls in our lap should we take the gamble. My instinct thinks that if enough teams have passed over him then there is probably a good reason why.

If they're that scared of his AFL position that they ignore his athleticism, intelligence, work rate and skill, they've lost their minds. He'd have cleared something like 8 clubs that would snap him up happily, so it's a moot point.

 

[Bic]

If SPS and Taranto are gone by our pick (entirely possible), who do we like next?

1. McGrath
2. Taranto
3. McCluggage
4. SPS
5/6. Bowes/Setterfield match
7. Brodie? Ainsworth? Scrimshaw? Hayward? English?

 

[BlueWoof_#39]

If SPS and Taranto are gone by our pick (entirely possible), who do we like next?

1. McGrath
2. Taranto
3. McCluggage
4. SPS
5/6. Bowes/Setterfield match
7. Brodie? Ainsworth? Scrimshaw? Hayward? English?

Out of that bunch I see Hayward and Scrimshaw having the highest ceilings but Brodie and Ainsworth will be bloody good players long term also.

English will be a solid player but not at Pick 5.

Brodie will be a contested beast and has great size, I have doubts on how many levels he can improve long term but would prob be top dozen players over an extended period of time for whichever team picks him up.

Scrimshaw I don't see moving into the midfield but he has the potential to be an AA half back flanker.

Ainsworth reminds me of Devon Smith and will be valuable to us with his goal nous, marking and breakaway speed in the middle. He will definitely play in the middle but uncertain whether that will become his primary position long term.

Hayward at worst will be a gun forward. His size, one on one work and marking will be a great asset and can definitely be built on. Others don't but I see him becoming a primary mid with frequent spells up forward.

We need midfielders and small to medium forwards the most out of any area on the park. I'm a Hayward fan so he is my pick of the bunch if Taranto and SPS are unavailable.


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[zeeCFC]

If you want a Fyfe potential player you'd look at Hayward. But Fyfe is a very unique player you can't really plan for.

 

[bmaurizio]

If SPS and Taranto are gone by our pick (entirely possible), who do we like next?

1. McGrath
2. Taranto
3. McCluggage
4. SPS
5/6. Bowes/Setterfield match
7. Brodie? Ainsworth? Scrimshaw? Hayward? English?

In this instance it would have to be Ainsworth.
Go Blues

 

[TerryWallet]

Every untried kid has boom/reasonable career/bust potential.

Hayward could be Fyfe or Lennon...or anything in between.

Scrimshaw could be Bont or Cale Morton...or anything in between.

Brodie could be Kennedy or Myers...or anything in between.

etc etc

Drafting is a bit like poker. Part knowing what you're doing, but needing a liberal dose of luck too. At least our setup now has the first category covered.....and then like all competant clubs, we hope we get the bit of luck to complement the hard work put in.

 

[bmaurizio]

If you want a Fyfe potential player you'd look at Hayward. But Fyfe is a very unique player you can't really plan for.

Wow zeeCFC that's a big wrapt your giving Hayward if he's remotely close to a Fyfe potential, I'll change my wish from SPS to Haywatd at pick5.
Can you please share your insights and info on Hayward didn't realise he had midfield potential.
Thanks

 

[No1Suspect]

Honestly if Taranto goes id be happy with Hayward. Would make an extremely unpredictable Fwd line plus i see Midfield potential also draft mids at all picks we should be fine

 

[Toddski]

If Taranto and SPS are gone I think I'll cry.

 

[zeeCFC]

Wow zeeCFC that's a big wrapt your giving Hayward if he's remotely close to a Fyfe potential, I'll change my wish from SPS to Haywatd at pick5.
Can you please share your insights and info on Hayward didn't realise he had midfield potential.
Thanks

Potential, potential, potential. I've stated before I wouldn't take him at 5 as he hasn't got that midfield body of work behind him to warrant a pick like that.

 

[Wickzki]

James Bereyne.

 

[Jeremias]

Hayward shapes as arguably the most intriguing selection in the draft. He has bolted into 1st round calculations but the risk associated with picking him cannot be ignored.

If we are taking him at 5 we'd want to be certain he can contribute through the midfield and he just hasn't shown that, to date.

My guess is he does go first round and possibly even top 10 but he is certainly a risky proposition. GC is probably in a position to take that risk with multiple early picks but I don't believe we'd be prepared to go with him.

 

[Blue By Blood]

Just on Hayward.. he played most of his junior footy through the midfield so I have no concern about him moving into that role at AFL level at some point.

Has almost been a victim of being very dangerous up forward because he's a nice mark and makes things happen. Would not be devastated if we took him at 5.

 

[1981]

Thanks for the info BBB

 

[1981]

In the next couple days we should start to see the pundits' thoughts RE how the dominoes fall in the first round. People like Quayle tend to hear things and then are able to make an educated guess on how things will pan out.

It will be interesting though to see if they're none the wiser this year as the top group seems very hard to split. Will it be a top five to ten where the Quayle's of the world struggle to get a grip of?

 

[Blue By Blood]

Thanks for the info BBB

No worries. He's a great talent and the most 'Fyfe like' prospect of this draft. He's not a huge reach at 5 like most seem to think.

I still think we take SPS, Taranto or Ainsworth, but should those three be gone, I suspect he would be next on our list ahead of guys like Scrimshaw and Brodie.