Game Day 2017 draft discussion

[faucon]

I’m hoping for some of the following
James Worpel, Ben Paton, Ethan Floyd, Jordon Butts, Will Walker.

 

[Dewnior]

They have an article on the 2005 draft on the Hawthorn site. Bloody hell we bombed out there (given our draft picks).

2017 might even be better

Three premiership players from the 2005 draft and Birch is still playing.

2006 draft was way worse. Less games played overall comoared to 2006 and no-one left on the list today. A solitary premiership player who was lucky to get a game at the expense of Tayls

 

[sven_inc]

IIRC we were into a lad by the name of Tom North last year. Seems we might be again this year too.

 

[Hodginator]

Not that it means a lot, but the SEN phantom draft has us taking Jake Patmore with our first pick.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Is it fanciful to think he could slip to us? Seems an ideal addition and has the tools to work with to become valuable at either end as a senior footballer. Has OK speed, but you can work on that, I like him.

Fingers toes and everything else crossed. Looks like a player, so no doubt someone will take an earlier punt.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Brett Anderson has Krueger going well after our first pick.

I hope we take that kid.

 

[Holy Rioli]

Brett Anderson has Krueger going well after our first pick.

I hope we take that kid.

I love the fact that he's a hunter. You can see that if he doesn't win the ball, he has eyes only for the person that did. That animal instinct you can't coach into a player.

 

[Goldhawk]

What time is the draft on Friday ?

 

[Millsie69]

What time is the draft on Friday ?

Coverage on Fox Footy starts 7pm AEST.

 

[sven_inc]

Brett Anderson has Krueger going well after our first pick.

I hope we take that kid.

I wonder what his issues are?

 

[TylerDurden]

I wonder what his issues are?

Was told a poor decision maker by a recruiter.

 

[spotthedot]

Bwhahahhaha....he is in the top 10% of the results in the combine, 21.7 in the yoyo...good skills ( a lot better than his team mate Bailey Banfield), tough, played mid with Powell-Pepper and Seton in 2016, versatile and from good stock...could play first up.

and...

WHY PICK HIM?

Guelfi is a midfield stoppage specialist, much like former Hawthorn and West Coast star Sam Mitchell. He has an appetite for getting his hands dirty and loves to rip the ball out of stoppages and propel it in the direction of forward running teammates.

As well as being an ‘inside bull,’ Guelfi is also incredibly skilled, especially with his elite penetrating kick. He can also drift forward and use his remarkable contested marking ability to have an impact.

He is also an elite runner, recording level 21.7 in this year’s Yo-Yo Endurance test, and clocking a sub-three second 20m sprint at the WA Combine. While last year, at the AFL National Combine, he completed the Agility test in 8.29 seconds.

THE QUESTION MARKS?

One of Guelfi’s strengths is his versatility, but could also be seen as a weakness. For Claremont’s League team he would often be moved around, which was not the best thing for his consistency.

THE WRAP

Only 20-years-old, Guelfi has enormous upside, making him a tantalising prospect.

He is tough, skilful, athletic and kicks goals – attributes that are hard to come by.

 

[VandoHawk]

Most phantom drafts have Roughsedge and Guelfi going rookie or undrafted. As rookie selections I think those two would be incredible.

I'm actually shocked Krueger may fall to our first pick. He's Bontempelli 2.0: not as consistent at this time in development but has all the attributes and has torn games apart. I think his versatility has actually limited his consistency, as he's constantly being played in a multitude of positions (halfback, wing, half-forward, even KPF) rather than being allowed to concentrate on just one. If he slides we take him in a heartbeat.

Noah Answorth another late prospect. Injury stuffed up his whole year: he's a tough halfback with speed and kicking skills. Think Zac Jones with better disposal. Has scope to move into the midfield.

Personally:
First Pick: Nathan Krueger
Second Pick: Noah Answorth
Third Pick: Tom North

Rookie One: Guelfi
Rookie Two: Roughsedge

Considering our late draft position those players would have incredibly high ceilings. Save the forwards and backs for next draft.

 

[wizzard400]

I'm hoping that 1 of Tim Kelly or Liam Ryan slides to us if the WA clubs pass on them

 

[The German Hunter]

Most phantom drafts have Roughsedge and Guelfi going rookie or undrafted. As rookie selections I think those two would be incredible.

I'm actually shocked Krueger may fall to our first pick. He's Bontempelli 2.0: not as consistent at this time in development but has all the attributes and has torn games apart. I think his versatility has actually limited his consistency, as he's constantly being played in a multitude of positions (halfback, wing, half-forward, even KPF) rather than being allowed to concentrate on just one. If he slides we take him in a heartbeat.

Noah Answorth another late prospect. Injury stuffed up his whole year: he's a tough halfback with speed and kicking skills. Think Zac Jones with better disposal. Has scope to move into the midfield.

Personally:
First Pick: Nathan Krueger
Second Pick: Noah Answorth
Third Pick: Tom North

Rookie One: Guelfi
Rookie Two: Roughsedge

Considering our late draft position those players would have incredibly high ceilings. Save the forwards and backs for next draft.

This would be a pretty good get. Definitely hearing we are into Tom North.

 

[sven_inc]

Fair bit of talk that Stephenson will slide due to the recent reveal of his heart condition. Seems to be a positive diagnosis but sounds like those with early picks may not take whatever risk he might present.

Some rate him the best in the draft.

Would have been nice to have traded into around Brisbanes pick 18. May have been a sneaky chance.

A slide to 43 too much to ask ?

 

[Brant]

Starting to see what some have said about the Hawks feeling like there are some gems in this draft.

Hope this kid is on the radar at #43.

A poster on the draft board thinks that although he's been played as a fwd (196cm) his best position might be as an inside mid.

This footage looks fantastic.

Quick, agile, tough and skilled.

He's #24.

Holy Jeebus

How does this kid not go at #1???

Only way he doesn’t go waaaayyyyy before our 1st Pick is if recruiters think he’s already reached his peak, but even then - There’s plenty of excitement in that peak!

Will be a star!

 

[Alite]

I put in a post earlier in this thread saying we should wait until next year to get our talls. I believe that is true in terms of our forwards. But I am now certain this draft is flat. There are options in every other position.
While these next set of blokes that I am showing may not be my first choice to draft, It would be a coup to get them:

Talls:
Pick 43: Cavarino (an intercepting marking CHB who is not quick)
Pick 68: Butts or Kreugar. (Enough said on both and probably both gone)
Pick 73: Miller: touted as a forward / ruck but I like him for full back
Pick 78: we may yet use it if the right player is available.

This group of talls would be awesome.

I had thought Harrison Petty would make this list of talls but on review ... Naaa

To be clear, this group is not likely to be available at the picks I have put them at. I am just saying that it is possible to get a set of talls in this draft with our picks.

 

[Alite]

I am a Tom Lamb fan. I see he won the saints new guys time trial.

We have a pick in the rookie draft just before the Saints. I hope we pick their pocket and take Lamb

 

[sven_inc]

Holy Jeebus

How does this kid not go at #1???

Only way he doesn’t go waaaayyyyy before our 1st Pick is if recruiters think he’s already reached his peak, but even then - There’s plenty of excitement in that peak!

Will be a star!

I guess that's why highlights are just that. All this shows is that he has a very high ceiling. It doesn't give us insight into what kind of kid he is, how consistent he is outside of one game, his work ethic, best position etc etc.

Don't get me wrong, if he could be an inside mid id be all over him but as mentioned in a post or two above a 196cm kid with such obvious potential has to have some flaws if he's even likely to be available to us at 43.

 

[sven_inc]

I put in a post earlier in this thread saying we should wait until next year to get our talls. I believe that is true in terms of our forwards. But I am now certain this draft is flat. There are options in every other position.
While these next set of blokes that I am showing may not be my first choice to draft, It would be a coup to get them:

Talls:
Pick 43: Cavarino (an intercepting marking CHB who is not quick)
Pick 68: Butts or Kreugar. (Enough said on both and probably both gone)
Pick 73: Miller: touted as a forward / ruck but I like him for full back
Pick 78: we may yet use it if the right player is available.

This group of talls would be awesome.

I had thought Harrison Petty would make this list of talls but on review ... Naaa

To be clear, this group is not likely to be available at the picks I have put them at. I am just saying that it is possible to get a set of talls in this draft with our picks.

Knightmare mentioned on Twitter this morning that Noah Balta may now slide as well and mentioned 20-50 as his range.

Surely he's gone before 43 but someone else to follow on the night!

 

[Mitchell54]

Pick 43: Best Available
Pick 68: Kyren Hayden
Pick 75: Best Available

Rookie 1: Project KPP
Rookie 2: Best available

Think Hawks will be all over Hayden if he’s there at 68. Great midfield talent

 

[Jiggystoon]

Knightmare mentioned on Twitter this morning that Noah Balta may now slide as well and mentioned 20-50 as his range.

Surely he's gone before 43 but someone else to follow on the night!

No way Balta makes it to 43, I feel that there is a bit of risk with Balta, there always is when you are dealing with the “athlete first, footballer second” type of player.

His athletic traits are exciting but his footy IQ lacks a bit based on my observations and I few that’s a really important element for a KP player. I like him more as a defender initially as he will be able to learn the KP craft through having a direct opponent to follow around.

He actually reminds me of Trent Croad in that he is fast, explosive and powerful but not always in tune with the flow of the game.

I think that someone will grab him in the top 30, possibly even top 20. He is high risk but also potentially very high reward, someone will have taken the punt before we even get a chance at him


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[derp de derp]

ABC news website has reported we have committed to CJ, it's quite a well written article


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[RIOLINWITPUNCHS]

Pick 43: Best Available
Pick 68: Kyren Hayden
Pick 75: Best Available

Rookie 1: Project KPP
Rookie 2: Best available

Think Hawks will be all over Hayden if he’s there at 68. Great midfield talent

Hayden broke Nic Nats record of 102cm in the the vertical jump.

For an inside midfielder to be able to do that is pretty bloody special.