Game Day 2017 National Draft

[jackcass]

If we could get two second rounders and keep our first we can definitely get some good talls.

The issue seems to be people want Buddy Franklin or Tom Lynch level good from the draft when the reality is we may in fact have to settle for Harry Taylor or Ben Reid level good. And according to those who study this a lot more than me those lower level good players will be available late 1st and 2nd rounds.

 

[Apex36]

Weren't they looking at stopping clubs with academies such as Brisbane from stockpiling later picks to bid on players? Or something along those lines?

I think you can't use more picks than you have list spots or something along those lines.

 

[Soups]

The issue seems to be people want Buddy Franklin or Tom Lynch level good from the draft when the reality is we may in fact have to settle for Harry Taylor or Ben Reid level good. And according to those who study this a lot more than me those lower level good players will be available late 1st and 2nd rounds.

Yeah I think people have to realise the likelihood of us getting a player the is going to be a super star, is slim. However the talls that we could draft in that range I would be more than handy Balta/Naughton/Crossley/CCJ/Petty/
Clavarino all have the potential to be good talls to draft in the late first to second round.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Yeah I think people have to realise the likelihood of us getting a player the is going to be a super star, is slim. However the talls that we could draft in that range I would be more than handy Balta/Naughton/Crossley/CCJ/Petty/
Clavarino all have the potential to be good talls to draft in the late first to second round.

And even if we get an extremely good talk, it takes a few years to get then up and about.
Eg Moore is still just getting there. Time, patience, important qualities

 

[Soups]

And even if we get an extremely good talk, it takes a few years to get then up and about.
Eg Moore is still just getting there. Time, patience, important qualities

Yeah it would be nice if we could pick one up that comes along quickly like a Hogan or Cameron but it's just so rare these days. Maybe next year with the talls we will get lucky and get one that can have an impact straight away.

 

[Kilmo]

The issue seems to be people want Buddy Franklin or Tom Lynch level good from the draft when the reality is we may in fact have to settle for Harry Taylor or Ben Reid level good. And according to those who study this a lot more than me those lower level good players will be available late 1st and 2nd rounds.

I'd love to settle for an all australian premiership key position player like Taylor or Reid

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Yeah it would be nice if we could pick one up that comes along quickly like a Hogan or Cameron but it's just so rare these days. Maybe next year with the talls we will get lucky and get one that can have an impact straight away.

The one next year they say is Nick Reiwoldt like.

Now just having a player like that, would that not just be grand?

 

[Dynamics]

The issue seems to be people want Buddy Franklin or Tom Lynch level good from the draft when the reality is we may in fact have to settle for Harry Taylor or Ben Reid level good. And according to those who study this a lot more than me those lower level good players will be available late 1st and 2nd rounds.

I'd be over the moon to land a Taylor or Reid in the draft. Particularly Taylor.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

I'd be over the moon to land a Taylor or Reid in the draft. Particularly Taylor.

Agree.
A young version of both, very nice indeed.

Reid is a rolled gold type when healthy.

 

[Dynamics]

Agree.
A young version of both, very nice indeed.

Reid is a rolled gold type when healthy.

Peak fitness I'd take Reid.

But durability is a big factor for me when assessing a player so Reidy loses several points there. Taylor has played virtually every game for a decade. That reliability is a huge asset.

 

[Soups]

The one next year they say is Nick Reiwoldt like.

Now just having a player like that, would that not just be grand?

Lukosius. The kid is going to be something special.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Lukosius. The kid is going to be something special.

Couldn't remember how to spell it.
If we got him, I'd learn quick smart.
Are we ever that Luky?

 

[Soups]

Couldn't remember how to spell it.
If we got him, I'd learn quick smart.
Are we ever that Luky?

Probably have to get the spoon at this stage Saintly

 

[jackcass]

I'd love to settle for an all australian premiership key position player like Taylor or Reid

Yeah, me too.

There's an enormous number of KPP's who've been taken at 10 plus (yes I know Reid was taken at 8) who go on to have very good careers, some even win AA's. The further away you get from the pointy end though the more likely they'll be defenders, and the harder they are to find.

 

[jackcass]

Yeah I think people have to realise the likelihood of us getting a player the is going to be a super star, is slim. However the talls that we could draft in that range I would be more than handy Balta/Naughton/Crossley/CCJ/Petty/
Clavarino all have the potential to be good talls to draft in the late first to second round.

Yeah, but players like J McGovern, Gunston, Talia, Davis, Carlisle, S Reid, and Tom McDonald have all come with picks 10+ and every now and then an absolute gun comes very late. Less likely they'll be KPP types though but Swan was a very late pick, Rampe was picked up in a rookie draft. The concern is whether our talent identification runs as deep as it used to so we hit those really late picks.

 

[Soups]

Yeah, but players like J McGovern, Gunston, Talia, Davis, Carlisle, S Reid, and Tom McDonald have all come with picks 10+ and every now and then an absolute gun comes very late. Less likely they'll be KPP types though but Swan was a very late pick, Rampe was picked up in a rookie draft. The concern is whether our talent identification runs as deep as it used to so we hit those really late picks.

Yeah I think our talent ID has been lacking in drafting talls later on in the draft. Probably is due to the fact that we are undermanned in that area. Hopefully something we can fix asap

 

[loki04]

Yeah I think people have to realise the likelihood of us getting a player the is going to be a super star, is slim. However the talls that we could draft in that range I would be more than handy Balta/Naughton/Crossley/CCJ/Petty/
Clavarino all have the potential to be good talls to draft in the late first to second round.

Stay clear of Naughton pies....I hope everyone stops putting his name up as an option at 6, you guys are jinxing us!~

 

[loki04]

Yeah, me too.

There's an enormous number of KPP's who've been taken at 10 plus (yes I know Reid was taken at 8) who go on to have very good careers, some even win AA's. The further away you get from the pointy end though the more likely they'll be defenders, and the harder they are to find.

Typically its KP Defenders rather then KP forwards that are there to be had late, likely due to the role being easier to play.

Really needing a mix of pace, height and application to task all that is required to become competent. Then if you throw in the ability to read the play and are a good kick all of a sudden you have a gun defender.

 

[Soups]

Stay clear of Naughton pies....I hope everyone stops putting his name up as an option at 6, you guys are jinxing us!~

Haha going to be interesting who they are going to take if Brander is gone.

 

[loki04]

Haha going to be interesting who they are going to take if Brander is gone.

Hopefully my boy, The Fog. Its like The Fonz. Ayyy.

Yeah it will be interesting to see where all the cards land as it's not a real clear cut draft this year.

Especially with the news that Rayner may slip due to endurance and homesick fears, If he is there you would have to pull the trigger surely.

 

[Soups]

Hopefully my boy, The Fog. Its like The Fonz. Ayyy.

Yeah it will be interesting to see where all the cards land as it's not a real clear cut draft this year.

Especially with the news that Rayner may slip due to endurance and homesick fears, If he is there you would have to pull the trigger surely.

I'm sure Fog is keen to prove a lot of people wrong after his champs. A lot of club have overlooked players like him in the last couple of drafts and I think it's come back to bite them.

Surely Rayner doesn't last past Carlton. If he got to us magically I'd be wrapped, he's a gun.

 

[left at home]

Going off the high lights, balta and brander would be good gets if it was possible. Could set us up for the next ten years

 

[Apex36]

Hopefully my boy, The Fog. Its like The Fonz. Ayyy.

Yeah it will be interesting to see where all the cards land as it's not a real clear cut draft this year.

Especially with the news that Rayner may slip due to endurance and homesick fears, If he is there you would have to pull the trigger surely.

I hope we take him even if Brander is there. Gone right off Brander.

 

[loki04]

I hope we take him even if Brander is there. Gone right off Brander.

I think Brander will be in the mix, he is prone to the odd shank but he does a lot right in terms of leading body positioning etc. I think he won't be as bad as Cloke in front of goal either.

Obviously I am a fan of Fog and would be wrapt to take him at 6 same with Rayner.

Balta is an interesting prospect and if he was our target it may allow some savvy trading down to secure a later 1st and a 2nd rounder which gets us back into the draft in that round and still get him.

*Assuming we aren't trading it for a KPP.

 

[Baird]

I hope we take him even if Brander is there. Gone right off Brander.

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