2017 Trade and FA thread

[Milux]

Would Steven May be gettable ?

About time we steal one from them. Would kill to have him here. Andrews and May in the back line for the next 5 years.

 

[briztoon]

Are you thinking what I'm thinking B1? PP mainboard thread time?

When you do start it up, could you please tag me in it, and I'll bring my monkey along.

 

[BRWB]

Hi guys. Hope not intrusive and genuine question.

Your young developing tall spine looks fantastic. Assuming you retain them, I kinda doubt you'd draft another developing tall. And assuming you have Pick 1 (not trying to rude, just realistic.) it seems there might be some talls being looked at with Pick 1 this year. (If Carlton have Pick 2 I'd say they definitely go tall).

With Boyd looking like a ruck fwd, we need a young KPF to take over from Cloke and Redpath in a couple of years. What it would take to prise pick one from you?

You'd imagine our first rd picks this year and next (likely 11-18) could be on the table plus something. What is the something?

 

[Nunez]

Hi guys. Hope not intrusive and genuine question.

Your young developing tall spine looks fantastic. Assuming you retain them, I kinda doubt you'd draft another developing tall. And assuming you have Pick 1 (not trying to rude, just realistic.) it seems there might be some talls being looked at with Pick 1 this year. (If Carlton have Pick 2 I'd say they definitely go tall).

With Boyd looking like a ruck fwd, we need a young KPF to take over from Cloke and Redpath in a couple of years. What it would take to prise pick one from you?

You'd imagine our first rd picks this year and next (likely 11-18) could be on the table plus something. What is the something?

You'd think Close and Freeman would be attainable. Close for a 2nd round pick abd Freeman for a 3rd or 4th

 

[BRWB]

You'd think Close and Freeman would be attainable. Close for a 2nd round pick abd Freeman for a 3rd or 4th

No offence but neither excites me overly.

So you are saying that you'd prefer to not trade out Pick 1 (if you get it)?

 

[POBT]

Hi guys. Hope not intrusive and genuine question.

Your young developing tall spine looks fantastic. Assuming you retain them, I kinda doubt you'd draft another developing tall. And assuming you have Pick 1 (not trying to rude, just realistic.) it seems there might be some talls being looked at with Pick 1 this year. (If Carlton have Pick 2 I'd say they definitely go tall).

With Boyd looking like a ruck fwd, we need a young KPF to take over from Cloke and Redpath in a couple of years. What it would take to prise pick one from you?

You'd imagine our first rd picks this year and next (likely 11-18) could be on the table plus something. What is the something?

If we were offered a best 18 quality midfielder or small forward, plus two picks in the 11-18 range, I'd think seriously about it.

 

[M Malice]

Hi guys. Hope not intrusive and genuine question.

Your young developing tall spine looks fantastic. Assuming you retain them, I kinda doubt you'd draft another developing tall. And assuming you have Pick 1 (not trying to rude, just realistic.) it seems there might be some talls being looked at with Pick 1 this year. (If Carlton have Pick 2 I'd say they definitely go tall).

With Boyd looking like a ruck fwd, we need a young KPF to take over from Cloke and Redpath in a couple of years. What it would take to prise pick one from you?

You'd imagine our first rd picks this year and next (likely 11-18) could be on the table plus something. What is the something?

This situation may unfold if Brander or Hayes push up and become number 1 candidates. Would need a 3rd club to get involved IMO. If clubs a very keen to move up to pick 1 the Lions will play hardball. Something like pick 1 for pick 4 and 10 or 4 and a good young player.

 

[BRWB]

If we were offered a best 18 quality midfielder or small forward, plus two picks in the 11-18 range, I'd think seriously about it.

Then it comes down to defining best 18 mid. Brisbane say Bont, Macrae, Hunter etc, we say Honeychurch.

The one that I'd shift is Jong - a quicker, contested marking, less productive version of Robinson, and is currently best 22. Lukas Webb may be looking around. Not quite best 22 yet (played last game) and while averages 30 possies in the midfield at VFL his best possie may be half back. Daniel Rich like boot.

 

[BRWB]

This situation may unfold if Brander or Hayes push up and become number 1 candidates. Would need a 3rd club to get involved IMO. If clubs a very keen to move up to pick 1 the Lions will play hardball. Something like pick 1 for pick 4 and 10 or 4 and a good young player.

Yeah hard to see happening. A third club usually gets involved if they win (see Saints JOM).

No point asking for what we likely won't have and won't get bent over to have to get. Which maybe makes it a deal breaker for you.

Just IMO. But Brisbane need to get some decent young mids in either via draft or trade. Probably both. Again just me but if Brisbane could get a decent young sub 23 ready made mid and two 10-18 picks which they could use on mids for P1 - this year may be the year to do it.

Drafting another developing KP wouldn't make sense to me. Just IMO.

 

[Kevvo]

Yeah hard to see happening. A third club usually gets involved if they win (see Saints JOM).

No point asking for what we likely won't have and won't get bent over to have to get. Which maybe makes it a deal breaker for you.

Just IMO. But Brisbane need to get some decent young mids in either via draft or trade. Probably both. Again just me but if Brisbane could get a decent young sub 23 ready made mid and two 10-18 picks which they could use on mids for P1 - this year may be the year to do it.

Drafting another developing KP wouldn't make sense to me. Just IMO.

I think most of us would agree with this. But, as you alluded to above, there'll be differences of view about what we'd settle for on 'ready made'.

We're accumulating some very capable young players, but we also have a bunch of depth players that we have either put years into or recruited as mature players but remain a fair way below the standard required. I can see why we'd be keen on multiple high picks rather than one very high pick, but we are such a young side that we need quality reinforcements sooner rather than later. That's to say I agree with POBT that we'd really need a midfield contributor in that deal.

The trick is that very few sides, other than maybe GWS, are in a position to strategically let those players go.

 

[M Malice]

Jacob Hopper please! Come and join your best mate Jake Barrett.

 

[Kevvo]

Jacob Hopper please! Come and join your best mate Jake Barrett.

I think this would be fairly close to the dream result but I'm not getting my hopes up.

 

[BRWB]

I think most of us would agree with this. But, as you alluded to above, there'll be differences of view about what we'd settle for on 'ready made'.

We're accumulating some very capable young players, but we also have a bunch of depth players that we have either put years into or recruited as mature players but remain a fair way below the standard required. I can see why we'd be keen on multiple high picks rather than one very high pick, but we are such a young side that we need quality reinforcements sooner rather than later. That's to say I agree with POBT that we'd really need a midfield contributor in that deal.

The trick is that very few sides, other than maybe GWS, are in a position to strategically let those players go.

It's interesting - I'd say other than GWS we are the only team with the depth to trade reasonable mids. We actually run a deep mid rotation - probably deeper than GWS due to their better tall fwds. By way of our big injury list for the last three years we have more than normal seasoned players. Last year we lost Stevens and Hrovat - both seen to be good pick ups for their new clubs.

As you say the trick is what is good value. And even harder is convincing them their future is in Brissie.

It's food for thought. But I reckon if they could convince an accetpable player to both clubs of the move - both Brissie and the Dogs could benefit from such a deal.

 

[Kevvo]

It's interesting - I'd say other than GWS we are the only team with the depth to trade reasonable mids. We actually run a deep mid rotation - probably deeper than GWS due to their better tall fwds. By way of our big injury list for the last three years we have more than normal seasoned players. Last year we lost Stevens and Hrovat - both seen to be good pick ups for their new clubs.

As you say the trick is what is good value. And even harder is convincing them their future is in Brissie.

It's food for thought. But I reckon if they could convince an accetpable player to both clubs of the move - both Brissie and the Dogs could benefit from such a deal.

I take your point about the deep midfield and it's an interesting thought.

It may be unfair, but other than your really big names (Bont, Macrae, Hunter etc) I have a perception of the dogs being a group of players that excels within a good philosophy/system, where I perceive the GWS kids as more standalone talents that could move to a different club and more readily make an impact. I completely accept that could be bias on my part, but I think we'd need a PR win to part with a pick 1 and I think it would almost certainly take a recent high pick (someone like Hopper, unrealistic as it may be) to make that happen.

 

[BRWB]

I take your point about the deep midfield and it's an interesting though.

It may be unfair, but other than your really big names (Bont, Macrae, Hunter etc) I have a perception of the dogs being a group of players that excels within a good philosophy/system, where I perceive the GWS kids as more standalone talents that could move to a different club and more readily make an impact. I completely accept that could be bias on my part, but I think we'd need a PR win to part with a pick 1 and I think it would almost certainly take a recent high pick (someone like Hopper, unrealistic as it may be) to make that happen.

Yeah can see your point. We are largely blue collar.

So for example - you'd prefer say Hopper and GWS' first Rd pick instead of say Jong, and two Dogs first Rd picks?

The other point of interest is appetite. I wonder if GWS would prefer seasoned players rather than (another) no 1 pick.

 

[M Malice]

Yeah can see your point. We are largely blue collar.

So for example - you'd prefer say Hopper and GWS' first Rd pick instead of say Jong, and two Dogs first Rd picks?

The other point of interest is appetite. I wonder if GWS would prefer seasoned players rather than (another) no 1 pick.

Posted on the phantom draft board about this lions pick 1 and what to do. Knightmare was of the opinion that he would give up pick 1 for Hopper alone although he conceded GWS would probably have to throw something else in eg. Matt Kennedy or another pick somewhere.

 

[BRWB]

Posted on the phantom draft board about this lions pick 1 and what to do. Knightmare was of the opinion that he would give up pick 1 for Hopper alone although he conceded GWS would probably have to throw something else in eg. Matt Kennedy or another pick somewhere.

Fair enough. I know Knightmare rates Hopper. Obviously a different league to Jong. I suppose it's a question then of one gun or three likely good players. Depends on your assessment of where your list is at.

 

[Kevvo]

Yeah can see your point. We are largely blue collar.

So for example - you'd prefer say Hopper and GWS' first Rd pick instead of say Jong, and two Dogs first Rd picks?

The other point of interest is appetite. I wonder if GWS would prefer seasoned players rather than (another) no 1 pick.

I was thinking something like Pick 1 for Hopper and GWS' second.

On appetite, I'd have guessed the opposite. They have the side to challenge for a flag right now and (I defer to dlanod on this) I'd guess their cap is tightish. Taking in high picks that they can develop for a few years should future-proof them a bit.

 

[briztoon]

Jacob Hopper please! Come and join your best mate Jake Barrett.

Yup, I thought this as well.

Hopper and 2018 first.

 

[Alas Smith]

How about Darcy Parish, hasn't the bombers been touted as trying to get his signature since June of last year, surely he is holding off until his brother is drafted later this year? Quick, draft Cassidy Parish!

 

[JasRulz63]

Just IMO. But Brisbane need to get some decent young mids in either via draft or trade. Probably both. Again just me but if Brisbane could get a decent young sub 23 ready made mid and two 10-18 picks which they could use on mids for P1 - this year may be the year to do it.

Drafting another developing KP wouldn't make sense to me. Just IMO.

Pick 1 would net us the top rated midfielder in the draft though, in a side that's sorely lacking in young top end talent in the midfield. I feel we'd be needing to get something back that was more than a decent young midfielder and late first rounders.

 

[POBT]

Pick 1 would net us the top rated midfielder in the draft though, in a side that's sorely lacking in young top end talent in the midfield. I feel we'd be needing to get something back that was more than a decent young midfielder and late first rounders.

Probably depends on how we view Hopper though. I personally think he's going to be better than just decent.

 

[jackess]

Pick 1 would net us the top rated midfielder in the draft though, in a side that's sorely lacking in young top end talent in the midfield. I feel we'd be needing to get something back that was more than a decent young midfielder and late first rounders.

Could also net us someone who will leave in 2 years and we get pick 15 for in return.

Hopper would show that he wants to be at the club and could sign for greater than 2 years. It would be a safer bet.

 

[dlanod]

Probably depends on how we view Hopper though. I personally think he's going to be better than just decent.

Just watched the GWS v Bulldogs game (I was out that night, sue me) and Hopper stood out as really solid for a second year player. He's stood up a few times this year since he's moved into the middle with GWS's injuries. I'd love to see him in Lions' colours.

 

[Eons]

Just watched the GWS v Bulldogs game (I was out that night, sue me) and Hopper stood out as really solid for a second year player. He's stood up a few times this year since he's moved into the middle with GWS's injuries. I'd love to see him in Lions' colours.

We any chance of getting him?