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What's the story regarding his attitude problems?
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WILL KELLY / OAKLEIGH CHARGERS / 193cm / 83KG
Pretty happy to get Will Kelly. Think has really progressed this year and put in some really eye catching performances in some big games since the Champs. Has settled into playing a key defensive role and not surprisingly being played there consistently has led to him being able to balance getting the attacking and defensive elements of the role right. Got some speed so he closes space but he has good footy IQ and is a good intercept player in the air and on the ground. Provides great run and drive is terrific for a big kid and he has really neat skills to get with it. Only light so will take time but every chance being a very good player.
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3 1/2 hours, i guess we use Knightmares List for cotter's pick
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Haha ****, poor KM. Using his own list to steal players from him, especially when he turned down Quaynor and Kelly to get them. Seems a bit unfair.
Hale has actually done OK with Cox and Taberner, but it is no surprise that they have not been dominant. Now, either one of them or McCarthy becomes the third tall. Our forward line has been a basket case while the club has clearly been focusing on defence and midfield.
Still a way to go before we see cohesion though .
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7 Gold Coast - Bailey Smith (VIC)
Best position: Inside midfield
Height, weight: 185cm, 82kg
Recruited from: Sandringham
Projected draft range: 5-10
Plays like: Jaeger O'Meara
Rationale: Arguably the best and most complete midfielder in the draft. Smith places ahead of the more highly touted Sam Walsh with his contested ball-winning, kicking and acceleration of a higher standard. Sat out the latter portion of the year with Achilles bursitis which he was playing through since the start of the season.
September Ranking: 2
Strengths:
Production
Work ethic
Contested ball-winning
Stoppage work
Outside accumulation
Kicking precision and placement
Vision
Endurance
Work rate
Acceleration away from the contest
Versatility to play midfield or defence
Reading of the ball in flight
Intercept marking
Weaknesses:
Impact forward of centre
Contested marking
Rationale:
Smith - Best midfielder in the draft. Better contested ball winner, kick and more explosive runner than Walsh and more prolific of a ball winner and accumulator than anyone else in this draft. Projects to become Gold Coast's best midfielder. High character guy who works as hard as anyone in this pool and if he joins Gold Coast could well become a future captain.
There was no other consideration with this pick.
32 Gold Coast - Sydney Stack (WA)
Best position: Inside midfield/general forward
Height, weight: 177cm, 72kg
Recruited from: Perth
Projected draft range: 25-50
Plays like: Sam Petrevski-Seton
Rationale: One of the most exciting and impactful players through the Under-18 Championships. A prolific ball winner who hits the ball at speed and accelerates away. Production strong and tackling energy around the ball as impressive as any through the carnival. Not looking out of his depth at WAFL League level.
September Ranking: 15
Strengths:
Wins first possession at stoppages on the move
Tackling
Pressure around the ball
Acceleration
Speed
Agility
Composure and evasion in traffic
One-touch ground ball winner
Clean ball user
Weaknesses:
Height
Size
Discipline
Rationale:
Stack - Best talent available and brings excitement and electricity to a now vanilla midfield. Gold Coast need talent and need guys who can impact the game offensively and Stack brings that. The expectation in drafting Stack is that Harbrow takes Stack under his wing, mentors him and helps Stack get the best out of himself. If Stack fulfils his potential, he has the scope to become a best five on list standard talent which in the 30s I can't pass up the opportunity at as one of a handful who not only consistently wins first possession at stoppages but bursts away and drills his targets.
Ned McHenry was the other consideration as the best pressure player in the draft, but with his scoreboard impact poor and not being a prolific contested ball winner on a team badly lacking ball winners or any offence, the selection was an easy one with Stack the better overall talent.
Snoop Dog
Best position: Inside midfield
Height, weight: 185cm, 82kg
Recruited from: Sandringham
Projected draft range: 5-10
Plays like: Jaeger O'Meara
Rationale: Arguably the best and most complete midfielder in the draft. Smith places ahead of the more highly touted Sam Walsh with his contested ball-winning, kicking and acceleration of a higher standard. Sat out the latter portion of the year with Achilles bursitis which he was playing through since the start of the season.
September Ranking: 2
Strengths:
Production
Work ethic
Contested ball-winning
Stoppage work
Outside accumulation
Kicking precision and placement
Vision
Endurance
Work rate
Acceleration away from the contest
Versatility to play midfield or defence
Reading of the ball in flight
Intercept marking
Weaknesses:
Impact forward of centre
Contested marking
Rationale:
Smith - Best midfielder in the draft. Better contested ball winner, kick and more explosive runner than Walsh and more prolific of a ball winner and accumulator than anyone else in this draft. Projects to become Gold Coast's best midfielder. High character guy who works as hard as anyone in this pool and if he joins Gold Coast could well become a future captain.
There was no other consideration with this pick.
32 Gold Coast - Sydney Stack (WA)
Best position: Inside midfield/general forward
Height, weight: 177cm, 72kg
Recruited from: Perth
Projected draft range: 25-50
Plays like: Sam Petrevski-Seton
Rationale: One of the most exciting and impactful players through the Under-18 Championships. A prolific ball winner who hits the ball at speed and accelerates away. Production strong and tackling energy around the ball as impressive as any through the carnival. Not looking out of his depth at WAFL League level.
September Ranking: 15
Strengths:
Wins first possession at stoppages on the move
Tackling
Pressure around the ball
Acceleration
Speed
Agility
Composure and evasion in traffic
One-touch ground ball winner
Clean ball user
Weaknesses:
Height
Size
Discipline
Rationale:
Stack - Best talent available and brings excitement and electricity to a now vanilla midfield. Gold Coast need talent and need guys who can impact the game offensively and Stack brings that. The expectation in drafting Stack is that Harbrow takes Stack under his wing, mentors him and helps Stack get the best out of himself. If Stack fulfils his potential, he has the scope to become a best five on list standard talent which in the 30s I can't pass up the opportunity at as one of a handful who not only consistently wins first possession at stoppages but bursts away and drills his targets.
Ned McHenry was the other consideration as the best pressure player in the draft, but with his scoreboard impact poor and not being a prolific contested ball winner on a team badly lacking ball winners or any offence, the selection was an easy one with Stack the better overall talent.
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Is it a phantom or Power Rankings we were going by? Thought it would have been Power Rankings.
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I wasn't aware either my phantom or power rankings would be used this year.
It's going to be a challenge for anyone hoping to use my power rankings with only my top 20 listed.
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It’s actually an interesting discussion. If each person in the PD had their own board/list, then it would make the most sense to go off that list for that coach. Just a thought. For those who don’t maybe submitting a list to Snoop pre-draft or something perhaps.
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Why don’t you simply have a back-up / contingency selector for future phantoms? I work in quality / business systems management and having a backup for when things stop working is standard practice. Just a thought?
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A few posters have given lists to the others to help with this, not everyone did so but it should be standard practise
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That's okay, I have the next couple of picks anyway.
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Tom Berry?
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St Kilda bid on Toby Bedford, but LemmingMaster is usually on so should have an answer soon one way or another.
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Trust me you are not alone....I banked on him making it to my second pick and did a dance when he was there....
Incredible steal, strongly considered him with crows 4th pick
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And you didn't take Tom?..... #ShakesHead
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That was the pick prior to mine... I assume you didn't think I'd take him at #4And you didn't take Tom?..... #ShakesHead
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OK, you're forgiven then...That was the pick prior to mine... I assume you didn't think I'd take him at #4
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Jye Caldwell
Simply a case of best availble with the first pick for the crows here and what a class player he is. For the moment, I will look simply and purely at the quality football player he is (and certainly was before his injuries) which was right up there with Smith and Walsh as a top shelf mid in this draft.
Caldwell is a classy dual-sided midfielder with a real burst of speed out of congestion and is exciting to watch when in full flight. He is the consumate inside/out midfielder, my favourite type where they can win their own ball, burst away and deliver it. I have no doubt if he had a full campaign this year he'd go top 5. His sideways movement is excellent as well, he's hard to tackle and slips through the gaps, using his agility and speed well in those first few steps and that's all you need, especially in tight. His hands are good but perhaps not excellent, whilst his kicking is usually very good off both feet but certainly he can kick the ball too hard sometimes if I were to find a flaw. His defensive game is very good, and he will tackle when required and finally he possesses very good leadership skills and was co-captain with Sam Walsh for VC. He's got quite the resume and if (a big if) he can overcome his injuries then he'll be a long term AFL gun mid. There is perhaps the risk he takes the Brad Crouch path and succumbs regularly to injury but hopefully that does not happen.
In summary, a great fit for the crows, speed, power and a very good all round game with few weakneses to really bolster a midfield that needs some more pace and class.
Jye Caldwell
Simply a case of best availble with the first pick for the crows here and what a class player he is. For the moment, I will look simply and purely at the quality football player he is (and certainly was before his injuries) which was right up there with Smith and Walsh as a top shelf mid in this draft.
Caldwell is a classy dual-sided midfielder with a real burst of speed out of congestion and is exciting to watch when in full flight. He is the consumate inside/out midfielder, my favourite type where they can win their own ball, burst away and deliver it. I have no doubt if he had a full campaign this year he'd go top 5. His sideways movement is excellent as well, he's hard to tackle and slips through the gaps, using his agility and speed well in those first few steps and that's all you need, especially in tight. His hands are good but perhaps not excellent, whilst his kicking is usually very good off both feet but certainly he can kick the ball too hard sometimes if I were to find a flaw. His defensive game is very good, and he will tackle when required and finally he possesses very good leadership skills and was co-captain with Sam Walsh for VC. He's got quite the resume and if (a big if) he can overcome his injuries then he'll be a long term AFL gun mid. There is perhaps the risk he takes the Brad Crouch path and succumbs regularly to injury but hopefully that does not happen.
In summary, a great fit for the crows, speed, power and a very good all round game with few weakneses to really bolster a midfield that needs some more pace and class.
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