Unofficial Preview 2020 Draft Discussion

[TylerDurden]

Dons need pick 1. They only want Logan.

 

[Falco131415]

what time does the draft start???

 

[Stratton24]

what time does the draft start???

7pm

 

[WeedsMullet84]

Dons need pick 1. They only want Logan.

Yeah I was just about to mention this. My guess is that Bombers are only keen on trading up for a certain player. The road to the draft podcast yesterday with Twomey gave a bit of insight into what is currently going on behind the scenes. Some takes from that interview were:

• Best Key Forwards in order JUH, McDonald, Thilthorpe, Cox (Essendon are interested), Matthew Allison
• Crows working on McDonald/Hollands/Thilthorpe
• Collingwood keen to bundle 14 16 and future 1st
• Gold Coast wanted to move up from 5 to 2, North Rejected the swap
• Essendon linked to Cox, Interested in Archie Perkins and so is Hawthorn would be a surprise if he went at 4
• Unlikely for Essendon to trade up
• DGB the one least likely to fall out of the top 5
• Nathan O'Driscoll likely 15-25 range a bargain after 25
• First 5, Next 7, then Next 10 in groups of talents

I'll also add:

• Hollands unlikely to slide. If he doesn't go Pick 1 (or 2 if we bid on JUH) it sounds like he'll get picked up by North, Syd or Hawks, who've apparently have a fair bit of interest in him.
• Crows are still open to trading Pick 1 if the 'right deal' is on the table.
• Brayden Cook likely to be a draft bolter

 

[Roby]

So one of the advantages Perkins has over Hollands is his speed and acceleration which is 17 vs Hollands 13. I have only watched highlights of both, which isn't much and I'm no expert obviously, but is the difference in speed that noticeable? I'm keen to hear your thoughts on this.

Hollands does have a lack of speed. He makes up a lot that with of size and strength (think Fyfe) with his awareness and evasivenss. Awareness to pick the right time to hit full speed.

The major problem with Perkins is his mental side of the game, and he has many deficiencies in that department. It would take him years to get him up to speed, let alone an elite level (think Jack Watts). At the moment he's a very good athlete that's a semi-footballer. In this case you might as well get DGB and turn him into a midfielder.

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[MrPremiership]

Shame he isn't slipping to us

 

[Stratton24]

Shame he isn't slipping to us

Lance Franklin once said he would be a Hawk for life - things change

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Lance Franklin once said he would be a Hawk for life - things change

Exactly, easy to say now. Saying it when the mega contracts are put to you is a different matter.

 

[Davo-27]

Exactly, easy to say now. Saying it when the mega contracts are put to you is a different matter.

and your model girlfriend wants you to move to sydney...

 

[HawkInExile]

Hollands does have a lack of speed. He makes up a lot that with of size and strength (think Fyfe) with his awareness and evasivenss. Awareness to pick the right time to hit full speed.

The major problem with Perkins is his mental side of the game, and he has many deficiencies in that department. It would take him years to get him up to speed, let alone an elite level (think Jack Watts). At the moment he's a very good athlete that's a semi-footballer. In this case you might as well get DGB and turn him into a midfielder.

Thanks for the insight. I see the key difference now. If given a choice, I'd much rather take a footballer over an athlete.

 

[HawkInExile]

and your model girlfriend wants you to move to sydney...

He might not be a one girlfriend type of guy though lol

 

[HolyRioli]

He might not be a one girlfriend type of guy though lol

Again, like Buddy

 

[Billyc]

Saying all the things you'd expect to hear from someone who has to move interstate anyway, and would quite like the extra $10,000.

 

[Roby]

Thanks for the insight. I see the key difference now. If given a choice, I'd much rather take a footballer over an athlete.

I'd take Eddie Ford over Perkins. Whoever picks up Ford will get a steal.

Eddie Ford	189cm	80kg
Physical	15	Mental	16	Technical	14	14.97
Acceleration	14	Aggression	18	Kicking	14
Agility	13	Bravery	19	Handballing	14
Balance	14	Composure	14	Hands	15
Jumping	14	Concentration	15	Goalkicking	15
Stamina	17	Decisions	17	Marking	14
Speed	15	Flair	15	Body Work	14
Strength	17	Leadership	17	Tackling	14
Durability	12	Off the Ball	16	Kick Distance	17
		Positioning	16	Two sided	12
		Teamwork	15	Spoiling/Punching	17
		Vision	17	Ruckwork	10
		Work Rate	19
		Clutch	13

I'll add the top 2 academy picks as well

JUH	195cm	90kg
Physical	16	Mental	13	Technical	13	13.86
Acceleration	18	Aggression	13	Kicking	13
Agility	17	Bravery	12	Handballing	13
Balance	17	Composure	14	Hands	17
Jumping	19	Concentration	12	Goalkicking	9
Stamina	13	Decisions	13	Marking	13
Speed	16	Flair	12	Body Work	12
Strength	14	Leadership	10	Tackling	14
Durability	14	Off the Ball	14	Kick Distance	15
		Positioning	13	Two sided	10
		Teamwork	14	Spoiling/Punching	14
		Vision	14	Ruckwork	10
		Work Rate	13
		Clutch	13
Braeden Campbell	180cm	73kg
Physical	15	Mental	15	Technical	14	14.69
Acceleration	16	Aggression	14	Kicking	18
Agility	19	Bravery	13	Handballing	15
Balance	18	Composure	15	Hands	14
Jumping	12	Concentration	17	Goalkicking	19
Stamina	16	Decisions	16	Marking	12
Speed	16	Flair	15	Body Work	13
Strength	13	Leadership	16	Tackling	15
Durability	13	Off the Ball	17	Kick Distance	17
		Positioning	12	Two sided	11
		Teamwork	13	Spoiling/Punching	9
		Vision	18	Ruckwork	6
		Work Rate	16
		Clutch	15

 

[toomanysquibs]

Call himself a "confidence player". Not sure I like that.

I hope he doesn't mean 'confidence player' in the traditional sense.. As in a ''can only play to potential when everything is going right for him" type.

I like Perkins a lot just to be clear. Only hope he doesn't mean in that respect.

He's an exciting prospect, wouldn't be gutted if he lands at Waverly.

 

[moginie]

Yeah I was just about to mention this. My guess is that Bombers are only keen on trading up for a certain player. The road to the draft podcast yesterday with Twomey gave a bit of insight into what is currently going on behind the scenes. Some takes from that interview were:

• Best Key Forwards in order JUH, McDonald, Thilthorpe, Cox (Essendon are interested), Matthew Allison
• Crows working on McDonald/Hollands/Thilthorpe
• Collingwood keen to bundle 14 16 and future 1st
• Gold Coast wanted to move up from 5 to 2, North Rejected the swap
• Essendon linked to Cox, Interested in Archie Perkins and so is Hawthorn would be a surprise if he went at 4
• Unlikely for Essendon to trade up
• DGB the one least likely to fall out of the top 5
• Nathan O'Driscoll likely 15-25 range a bargain after 25
• First 5, Next 7, then Next 10 in groups of talents

I'll also add:

• Hollands unlikely to slide. If he doesn't go Pick 1 (or 2 if we bid on JUH) it sounds like he'll get picked up by North, Syd or Hawks, who've apparently have a fair bit of interest in him.
• Crows are still open to trading Pick 1 if the 'right deal' is on the table.
• Brayden Cook likely to be a draft bolter

Where do you rate Poulter?

 

[WeedsMullet84]

Where do you rate Poulter?

18-25

 

[Falco131415]

7pm

Cheers Stratts

 

[HawkInExile]

I'd take Eddie Ford over Perkins. Whoever picks up Ford will get a steal.

Eddie Ford	189cm	80kg
Physical	15	Mental	16	Technical	14	14.97
Acceleration	14	Aggression	18	Kicking	14
Agility	13	Bravery	19	Handballing	14
Balance	14	Composure	14	Hands	15
Jumping	14	Concentration	15	Goalkicking	15
Stamina	17	Decisions	17	Marking	14
Speed	15	Flair	15	Body Work	14
Strength	17	Leadership	17	Tackling	14
Durability	12	Off the Ball	16	Kick Distance	17
		Positioning	16	Two sided	12
		Teamwork	15	Spoiling/Punching	17
		Vision	17	Ruckwork	10
		Work Rate	19
		Clutch	13

I'll add the top 2 academy picks as well

JUH	195cm	90kg
Physical	16	Mental	13	Technical	13	13.86
Acceleration	18	Aggression	13	Kicking	13
Agility	17	Bravery	12	Handballing	13
Balance	17	Composure	14	Hands	17
Jumping	19	Concentration	12	Goalkicking	9
Stamina	13	Decisions	13	Marking	13
Speed	16	Flair	12	Body Work	12
Strength	14	Leadership	10	Tackling	14
Durability	14	Off the Ball	14	Kick Distance	15
		Positioning	13	Two sided	10
		Teamwork	14	Spoiling/Punching	14
		Vision	14	Ruckwork	10
		Work Rate	13
		Clutch	13
Braeden Campbell	180cm	73kg
Physical	15	Mental	15	Technical	14	14.69
Acceleration	16	Aggression	14	Kicking	18
Agility	19	Bravery	13	Handballing	15
Balance	18	Composure	15	Hands	14
Jumping	12	Concentration	17	Goalkicking	19
Stamina	16	Decisions	16	Marking	12
Speed	16	Flair	15	Body Work	13
Strength	13	Leadership	16	Tackling	15
Durability	13	Off the Ball	17	Kick Distance	17
		Positioning	12	Two sided	11
		Teamwork	13	Spoiling/Punching	9
		Vision	18	Ruckwork	6
		Work Rate	16
		Clutch	15

Yeah 100%, I just watched last years Team Brown vs Team Dal Santo game for the first time and found Ford super impressive.

Hoping we grab Hollands over Phillips with pick 4, as I'm not a big fan of small insider midfielders and Phillips lack of versatility worries me a little. Having a midfielder that can play other positions as well will help with our team flexibility and rotations.

The only thing I don't like about Ford is that his kicking is only a 14. I would really like us to focus on players that have great kicking skills.

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[killerspud]

Dons need pick 1. They only want Logan.

So if the Crows go Tilthorpe and norf go Hollands and The swans go DBG the question is do we want McDonald or Phillips or Perking...and how badly do essendon want the Joey replacement?? If all they want is McDonald and he falls to 4 then we say 6 and 8 for 4. They get their man and we get a combination of top 10 picks

 

[TylerDurden]

So if the Crows go Tilthorpe and norf go Hollands and The swans go DBG the question is do we want McDonald or Phillips or Perking...and how badly do essendon want the Joey replacement?? If all they want is McDonald and he falls to 4 then we say 6 and 8 for 4. They get their man and we get a combination of top 10 picks

No. We snap up Logan.

But it won't happen. Close to zero chance.

 

[Bardo State]

So if the Crows go Tilthorpe and norf go Hollands and The swans go DBG the question is do we want McDonald or Phillips or Perking...and how badly do essendon want the Joey replacement?? If all they want is McDonald and he falls to 4 then we say 6 and 8 for 4. They get their man and we get a combination of top 10 picks

At that point, rather than being cute, I'd hope Hawthorn just thank their luck and take McDonald.

 

[killerspud]

No. We snap up Logan.

But it won't happen. Close to zero chance.

I'm not as sold on McDonald or Tilthorpe for that matter. If I had my choice of talls it would be DGB. Otherwise I'd take a mid.