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to get you have to give
nothing is for free and no reason for Geelong to feel a sense of entitlement
Sorry, where in that story did you find the info re Lloyd, Reid & Sproule? I'm not surprised if that's the case - it mostly matches my thinking
Meantime, Greater Western Sydney will re-contract Daniel Lloyd and Sam Reid.
Others without deals include: Flynn Appleby, Rupert WillsPLAYERCARDSTART31Flynn Appleby
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- 4.2
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- 1.4
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- MG
- 109.7
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- 8.8
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- 4star
- MG
- 120.8
- 2star
PLAYERCARDEND(Collingwood), Zach GuthriePLAYERCARDSTART33Rupert Wills
- Age
- 30
- Ht
- 192cm
- Wt
- 88kg
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- Mid
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- D
- 15.9
- 4star
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- 6.0
- 2star
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- 9.9
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- M
- 2.3
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- T
- 6.8
- 5star
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- 14.8
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- 5.5
- 2star
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- 4.7
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- 3.0
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- 17.6
- 5star
- K
- 7.4
- 3star
- HB
- 10.2
- 5star
- M
- 2.8
- 3star
- T
- 8.6
- 5star
- CL
- 2.2
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND, Ben Jarvis (Geelong), Zach Sproule (GWS), Keegan BrooksbyPLAYERCARDSTART39Zach Guthrie
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 188cm
- Wt
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- Pos.
- Def
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- 5.8
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- M
- 3.3
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- 1.8
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- MG
- 90.0
- 1star
- D
- 7.0
- 1star
- K
- 4.0
- 1star
- HB
- 3.0
- 2star
- M
- 1.0
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- T
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- MG
- 90.0
- 2star
- D
- 10.4
- 3star
- K
- 3.8
- 2star
- HB
- 6.6
- 4star
- M
- 2.0
- 3star
- T
- 1.6
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND, Changkuoth JiathPLAYERCARDSTART31Keegan Brooksby
- Age
- 33
- Ht
- 197cm
- Wt
- 105kg
- Pos.
- F/R
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- 12.0
- 3star
- K
- 5.9
- 2star
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- 6.1
- 4star
- M
- 3.3
- 3star
- T
- 3.4
- 5star
- G
- 0.2
- 2star
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- 7.0
- 2star
- K
- 3.8
- 2star
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- 3.2
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- M
- 2.4
- 3star
- T
- 2.4
- 4star
- G
- 0.6
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND, Harrison Jones, Dylan MoorePLAYERCARDSTART9Changkuoth Jiath
- Age
- 24
- Ht
- 185cm
- Wt
- 78kg
- Pos.
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- 14.5
- 4star
- K
- 5.0
- 2star
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- 9.5
- 5star
- M
- 3.5
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- T
- 2.5
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- MG
- 91.0
- 1star
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- 14.5
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- 5.0
- 2star
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- 9.5
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- M
- 3.5
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- T
- 2.5
- 4star
- MG
- 91.0
- 2star
PLAYERCARDEND(Hawthorn), Toby BedfordPLAYERCARDSTART13Dylan Moore
- Age
- 24
- Ht
- 177cm
- Wt
- 77kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 11.9
- 3star
- K
- 5.1
- 2star
- HB
- 6.7
- 4star
- M
- 4.4
- 4star
- T
- 2.9
- 4star
- G
- 0.3
- 3star
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- D
- 12.2
- 3star
- K
- 6.0
- 3star
- HB
- 6.2
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- M
- 5.4
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- T
- 2.8
- 5star
- G
- 0.4
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND(Melbourne), Ed Vickers-WillisPLAYERCARDSTART14Toby Bedford
- Age
- 23
- Ht
- 179cm
- Wt
- 75kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
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- 8.0
- 2star
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- 2.0
- 1star
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- 6.0
- 4star
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- 1.0
- 1star
- T
- 2.0
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- 1star
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- 6.0
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- 1.0
- 1star
- T
- 2.0
- 3star
- G
- 0.0
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- D
- 8.0
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- K
- 2.0
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- 6.0
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- M
- 1.0
- 1star
- T
- 2.0
- 4star
- G
- 0.0
- 1star
PLAYERCARDEND, Will WalkerPLAYERCARDSTART33Ed Vickers-willis
- Age
- 28
- Ht
- 190cm
- Wt
- 86kg
- Pos.
- Def
CareerSeasonLast 5
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- 12.1
- 3star
- K
- 5.6
- 2star
- HB
- 6.5
- 4star
- M
- 2.5
- 3star
- T
- 3.0
- 5star
- MG
- 111.1
- 2star
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- D
- 15.2
- 4star
- K
- 4.6
- 2star
- HB
- 10.6
- 5star
- M
- 2.4
- 3star
- T
- 3.0
- 5star
- MG
- 108.8
- 2star
PLAYERCARDEND(North Melbourne), Derek Eggmolesse-SmithPLAYERCARDSTART27Will Walker
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 186cm
- Wt
- 78kg
- Pos.
- M/F
CareerSeasonLast 5
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- 9.8
- 2star
- K
- 6.8
- 3star
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- 3.0
- 3star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 2.3
- 4star
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- 0.8
- 3star
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- 9.8
- 3star
- K
- 6.8
- 3star
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- 3.0
- 3star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 2.3
- 4star
- CL
- 0.8
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND, Ryan GarthwaitePLAYERCARDSTART43Derek...
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 180cm
- Wt
- 80kg
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CareerSeasonLast 5
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- 17.0
- 4star
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- 10.3
- 4star
- HB
- 6.8
- 4star
- M
- 2.8
- 3star
- T
- 2.5
- 4star
- MG
- 310.5
- 4star
- D
- 16.5
- 4star
- K
- 11.0
- 4star
- HB
- 5.5
- 3star
- M
- 3.5
- 3star
- T
- 3.0
- 4star
- MG
- 310.5
- 4star
- D
- 17.0
- 5star
- K
- 10.3
- 4star
- HB
- 6.8
- 5star
- M
- 2.8
- 3star
- T
- 2.5
- 4star
- MG
- 310.5
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND(Richmond), Oscar Clavarino (St Kilda), Hayden McLeanPLAYERCARDSTART42Ryan Garthwaite
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 192cm
- Wt
- 91kg
- Pos.
- Def
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 9.2
- 2star
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- 5.9
- 2star
- HB
- 3.3
- 3star
- M
- 3.9
- 4star
- T
- 2.2
- 4star
No current season stats available
- D
- 10.0
- 3star
- K
- 6.6
- 3star
- HB
- 3.4
- 3star
- M
- 4.6
- 5star
- T
- 2.2
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND(Sydney), Brayden AinsworthPLAYERCARDSTART2Hayden Mclean
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 197cm
- Wt
- 99kg
- Pos.
- F/R
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 9.1
- 2star
- K
- 5.1
- 2star
- HB
- 4.0
- 3star
- M
- 2.6
- 3star
- T
- 4.0
- 5star
- G
- 0.4
- 3star
- D
- 7.5
- 2star
- K
- 4.5
- 2star
- HB
- 3.0
- 2star
- M
- 2.3
- 2star
- T
- 3.3
- 4star
- G
- 0.8
- 4star
- D
- 10.0
- 3star
- K
- 5.4
- 2star
- HB
- 4.6
- 4star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 4.4
- 5star
- G
- 0.2
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND, Mark HutchingsPLAYERCARDSTART46Brayden Ainsworth
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 184cm
- Wt
- 80kg
- Pos.
- M/F
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 13.7
- 4star
- K
- 9.0
- 3star
- HB
- 4.7
- 3star
- M
- 3.3
- 3star
- T
- 4.3
- 5star
- CL
- 1.7
- 4star
No current season stats available
- D
- 13.7
- 4star
- K
- 9.0
- 4star
- HB
- 4.7
- 4star
- M
- 3.3
- 4star
- T
- 4.3
- 5star
- CL
- 1.7
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND(West Coast), Ben CavarraPLAYERCARDSTART34Mark Hutchings
- Age
- 32
- Ht
- 182cm
- Wt
- 83kg
- Pos.
- M/F
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 15.8
- 4star
- K
- 8.8
- 3star
- HB
- 7.0
- 4star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 4.3
- 5star
- CL
- 2.3
- 4star
No current season stats available
- D
- 19.4
- 5star
- K
- 12.6
- 5star
- HB
- 6.8
- 5star
- M
- 4.4
- 4star
- T
- 5.0
- 5star
- CL
- 3.6
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND, Will HayesPLAYERCARDSTART25Ben Cavarra
- Age
- 28
- Ht
- 173cm
- Wt
- 72kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 3.0
- 1star
- K
- 2.0
- 1star
- HB
- 1.0
- 1star
- M
- 1.0
- 1star
- T
- 1.0
- 3star
- G
- 1.0
- 4star
- D
- 3.0
- 1star
- K
- 2.0
- 1star
- HB
- 1.0
- 1star
- M
- 1.0
- 1star
- T
- 1.0
- 2star
- G
- 1.0
- 4star
- D
- 3.0
- 1star
- K
- 2.0
- 1star
- HB
- 1.0
- 2star
- M
- 1.0
- 1star
- T
- 1.0
- 3star
- G
- 1.0
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND, Roarke SmithPLAYERCARDSTART40Will Hayes
- Age
- 28
- Ht
- 181cm
- Wt
- 77kg
- Pos.
- M/F
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 15.6
- 4star
- K
- 8.6
- 3star
- HB
- 7.0
- 4star
- M
- 4.0
- 4star
- T
- 3.3
- 5star
- CL
- 0.9
- 3star
No current season stats available
- D
- 15.8
- 4star
- K
- 8.4
- 4star
- HB
- 7.4
- 5star
- M
- 4.2
- 4star
- T
- 2.6
- 4star
- CL
- 0.4
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND(Western Bulldogs).PLAYERCARDSTART37Roarke Smith
- Age
- 27
- Ht
- 184cm
- Wt
- 82kg
- Pos.
- Mid
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 11.7
- 3star
- K
- 5.6
- 2star
- HB
- 6.1
- 4star
- M
- 2.4
- 3star
- T
- 1.7
- 4star
- CL
- 0.4
- 2star
No current season stats available
- D
- 12.0
- 3star
- K
- 5.8
- 3star
- HB
- 6.2
- 4star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 1.6
- 4star
- CL
- 0.2
- 2star
PLAYERCARDEND
The primary list must have no fewer than 36 players and no more than 38
Do we look at taking Harrison Macreadiein the rookie draft as a back-up tall defender. He is a former GWS Academy player; taken by Carlton and played 8 games in his debut year of 2017, but after that injuries cruelled him to only one more game. A one year contract to see if our medicos and he can ‘get himself right’?PLAYERCARDSTART26Harrison Macreadie
- Age
- 26
- Ht
- 198cm
- Wt
- 92kg
- Pos.
- Def
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 6.9
- 2star
- K
- 4.1
- 2star
- HB
- 2.8
- 2star
- M
- 1.9
- 2star
- T
- 2.2
- 4star
- MG
- 76.3
- 1star
No current season stats available
- D
- 7.6
- 2star
- K
- 4.2
- 2star
- HB
- 3.4
- 3star
- M
- 2.6
- 3star
- T
- 3.0
- 5star
- MG
- 86.6
- 2star
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Also interesting that Carlton have delisted Matthew Kennedy, although he has been promised a rookie position.
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Understand the concept but I don't think it's realistic, lots of players(even early picks) struggle to get to afl level after being drafted and clubs need to be able to cut losses relatively early because of list size restrictions.First rounders should be a minimum 3 year contract with a "non-negotiable" fourth year trigger (e.g. 10 games first year, 25 games by year 2 or 40 games by end year 3). There should also be pay increment or games bonuses in that 3-4 year contracts so young stars are rewarded sensibly for playing.
Second rounders should be a minimum 3 year contract without the fourth year triggers.
Third round and onwards happy with a 2 year contract.
This would also sharpen recruiters somewhat.
Good discussion.
I'm sure we would love to have one of your top mids, you have some serious talent there... but I can't see it happening. I suspect we will be shopping for rucks and KPD's next season, not midfielders.I know this wouldn’t be a popular view but I reckon Geelong might go after one of our inside mids next year. With Selwoods end nearing, I could see them going after Hopper/Taranto.
I’m not that against it to be honest. I reckon we need more burst in there. It would allow a XOH to move in there... and he’s quicker than Hopper and has a better tank.
It’s looking likely that Green might be the best of the midfield bulls, so with him and Taranto in there that is more than enough stoppage power.
What do you guys think?
Hey guys and girls how are we all?
Sorry to ask but I've got a random question and while this may be the wrong thread I'm hoping someone could help me out.
I know that back in 2016 there was multiple pick swaps and players traded in order for you to acquire the selection used to draft Tim Tarantothat year.PLAYERCARDSTART14Tim Taranto
- Age
- 26
- Ht
- 188cm
- Wt
- 87kg
- Pos.
- Mid
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 22.3
- 5star
- K
- 12.8
- 5star
- HB
- 9.5
- 5star
- M
- 3.6
- 4star
- T
- 5.6
- 5star
- CL
- 4.1
- 5star
- D
- 17.0
- 4star
- K
- 12.0
- 5star
- HB
- 5.0
- 3star
- M
- 1.5
- 2star
- T
- 3.0
- 4star
- CL
- 5.5
- 5star
- D
- 15.6
- 4star
- K
- 7.6
- 3star
- HB
- 8.0
- 5star
- M
- 1.8
- 2star
- T
- 4.0
- 5star
- CL
- 2.2
- 4star
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Does anyone know what it ended up costing in full at all?
GWS Giants traded Cam McCarthy, along with draft selections No.7, No.34 and No.72 to the Fremantle Dockers for their first selection at the draft, No.3 overall.
GWS Giants traded picks No.3 and No.16 to the Brisbane Lions for picks No.2, No.31, No.51 and No.60.
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It is worth remembering that we had a strong academy class that year, so it was as much about points as anything else. It was no sacrifice all those trade downs.Thanks very much for taking the time and making the effort to respond to my post - much appreciated.
My understanding was that the pick in question was obtained by undertaking the following trades:
GWS Giants traded Cam McCarthy, along with draft selections No.7 (received from Collingwood as part of the Adam TreloarTrade in 2015), No.34 (from Carlton in exchange for Lachie Plowman, Andrew Phillips, Liam SumnerPLAYERCARDSTART1Adam Treloar
- Age
- 31
- Ht
- 185cm
- Wt
- 84kg
- Pos.
- Mid
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 28.2
- 5star
- K
- 12.9
- 5star
- HB
- 15.3
- 5star
- M
- 3.6
- 4star
- T
- 4.9
- 5star
- CL
- 4.6
- 5star
- D
- 30.3
- 5star
- K
- 16.3
- 5star
- HB
- 14.0
- 5star
- M
- 2.0
- 2star
- T
- 3.3
- 4star
- CL
- 5.8
- 5star
- D
- 18.0
- 5star
- K
- 11.2
- 4star
- HB
- 6.8
- 5star
- M
- 4.2
- 4star
- T
- 2.6
- 4star
- CL
- 1.6
- 4star
PLAYERCARDENDand Jed LambPLAYERCARDSTARTLiam Sumner
- Age
- 30
- Ht
- 178cm
- Wt
- 74kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 8.8
- 2star
- K
- 5.4
- 2star
- HB
- 3.4
- 3star
- M
- 2.2
- 2star
- T
- 2.4
- 4star
- G
- 0.6
- 4star
No current season stats available
- D
- 11.6
- 3star
- K
- 6.2
- 3star
- HB
- 5.4
- 4star
- M
- 2.4
- 3star
- T
- 3.2
- 5star
- G
- 0.8
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND) and No.72 (received from North Melbourne in exchange for Paul AhernPLAYERCARDSTARTJed Lamb
- Age
- 31
- Ht
- 181cm
- Wt
- 83kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 12.3
- 3star
- K
- 8.4
- 3star
- HB
- 3.8
- 3star
- M
- 3.4
- 3star
- T
- 2.4
- 4star
- G
- 0.7
- 4star
No current season stats available
- D
- 6.8
- 2star
- K
- 5.0
- 2star
- HB
- 1.8
- 2star
- M
- 1.0
- 1star
- T
- 1.6
- 4star
- G
- 0.2
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND) to the Fremantle Dockers for their first selection at the draft, No.3 overall.PLAYERCARDSTART15Paul Ahern
- Age
- 27
- Ht
- 183cm
- Wt
- 85kg
- Pos.
- D/M
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 17.5
- 4star
- K
- 9.6
- 4star
- HB
- 7.9
- 5star
- M
- 2.3
- 2star
- T
- 1.7
- 4star
- MG
- 296.8
- 4star
- D
- 4.0
- 1star
- K
- 3.0
- 1star
- HB
- 1.0
- 1star
- M
- 1.0
- 1star
- T
- 0.0
- 1star
- D
- 20.4
- 5star
- K
- 9.6
- 4star
- HB
- 10.8
- 5star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 2.4
- 4star
- MG
- 334.4
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
GWS Giants traded picks No.3 and No.16 (received from Carlton and tied to Geelong in exchange for GWS First Round Selection being Pick 8 in 2015) to the Brisbane Lions for picks No.2, No.31, No.51 and No.60.
Pick 2 was then taken to the Draft and used to select Tim Tarantoin 2016.PLAYERCARDSTART14Tim Taranto
- Age
- 26
- Ht
- 188cm
- Wt
- 87kg
- Pos.
- Mid
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 22.3
- 5star
- K
- 12.8
- 5star
- HB
- 9.5
- 5star
- M
- 3.6
- 4star
- T
- 5.6
- 5star
- CL
- 4.1
- 5star
- D
- 17.0
- 4star
- K
- 12.0
- 5star
- HB
- 5.0
- 3star
- M
- 1.5
- 2star
- T
- 3.0
- 4star
- CL
- 5.5
- 5star
- D
- 15.6
- 4star
- K
- 7.6
- 3star
- HB
- 8.0
- 5star
- M
- 1.8
- 2star
- T
- 4.0
- 5star
- CL
- 2.2
- 4star
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That's a whole lot of movement to get your desired target and I know that he was rated extremely highly (and rightfully so) by your club, who effectively moved heaven and earth to get him.
Kids an absolute jet
Our board is quite split on this. Personally I see merit to both sides but lean towards getting into the top 5 and taking a KPDThanks for the insight - I guess given the dramatic drop in quality after the projected first few picks and the uncertainty of the draft pool itself, that this year would be one where your club wouldn't need or want multiple mid - late first round selections and would most likely have an intended target at the pointy end of the draft?
Our board is quite split on this. Personally I see merit to both sides but lean towards getting into the top 5 and taking a KPD
You should def split your pick imoI could totally see why your supporter base would be split - just figured that given your recent departures that perhaps you'd be seeking quality over quantity and back yourselfs in to not only select the right player, but also have them buy into the club and stay long term.
While I'm intrigued with who we'll take with our highest selection in close to two decades, I'm wondering if we'd in fact be better splitting our pick into 3-4 selections and obtain multiple solid citizens as opposed to trying to land a star.
Will be interesting to see how things pan out either way I guess.
Thanks for the response and hope you guys do well regardless
You should def split your pick imo
might be with us might not be.... but you have a chance to get two first round picks in.... you would be silly not to imo
Understand the concept but I don't think it's realistic, lots of players(even early picks) struggle to get to afl level after being drafted and clubs need to be able to cut losses relatively early because of list size restrictions.
You might get next year's first plus two in the teens this year from CollingwoodBoth options have merit, if it's not with yourselves then Collingwood would be a real possibility.
Their pair of firsts and next years would probably get it done you'd think.
Although any one of Elijah Hollands, Riley Thilthorpe or Will Phillips would also be great.
Guess we'll find out soon enough.
Did you guys and girls here have anyone in particular you'd be hoping your club targets?