List Mgmt. 2020 Young Talent time

[go_the_dockers]

I feel like that would be a strange position to focus on given the addition of Henry last year, the fact that Walters will spend more time forward towards the end of his career, that we have Schultz and Switta and that we'll likely add Western.

We need more class in our forward line but I think we're alright for smalls, much bigger need for a developing tall.

Henry is not a forward pocket, I think he is more of a hff\mid than anything else. Same with Walters.

Schultz and Switta do not hit the score board enough, so if we could draft a classy player who could replace them and kick 30+ goals it would make a massive difference to our side.

FYI - I thought Schultz had a good year last year, but he played 17 game and only kicked 12 goals including 3 goals against North. We need a player who kicks goals against the top sides.

 

[theGav56]

I feel like that would be a strange position to focus on given the addition of Henry last year, the fact that Walters will spend more time forward towards the end of his career, that we have Schultz and Switta and that we'll likely add Western.

We need more class in our forward line but I think we're alright for smalls, much bigger need for a developing tall.

There’s a Farmer on the horizon too.

 

[Taylor]

Three of the fastest players in the draft will hit our list at discount from the academy

 

[Walkingwounded]

There’s a Farmer on the horizon too.

Motlop as well.

 

[wahooo]

Henry is not a forward pocket, I think he is more of a hff\mid than anything else. Same with Walters.

Schultz and Switta do not hit the score board enough, so if we could draft a classy player who could replace them and kick 30+ goals it would make a massive difference to our side.

FYI - I thought Schultz had a good year last year, but he played 17 game and only kicked 12 goals including 3 goals against North. We need a player who kicks goals against the top sides.

Would have thought it'd be pretty hard yakka as a small forward when your side is ranked second last for inside 50s, Schultz did well, bloody hell.

It's pretty obvious we need a player who kicks goals, I think a tall who kicks goals will be far more beneficial than a small.

Realistically, what small forward would you have us draft this year? It's all well and good to point out a need in that area but what can we do if there isn't a small forward at our pick? There could be good talls, like Cox at our pick, or we may get lucky with a crafty half forward like Henry/Perkins as a third tall.

Jlo pointed to a developing forward/ruck and outside run as the big needs in our list, respectfully, I'll trust his assessment.

 

[Scham]

Yep, we've been lacking in quality small forwards for years so waiting another couple won't matter...

 

[wahooo]

Yep, we've been lacking in quality small forwards for years so waiting another couple won't matter...

And we've been absolutely flush for quality tall forwards

 

[Joose]

Under no circumstances should we reach for Neale at our first, far better options out there at our pick. It's like people have forgotten we have a need for outside run as well as a tall.

We do not have the same need for outside run like we have need for a tall forward.

If you want developing outside run then we will have Henry, Western, Walker, Freddie and Giro. For developing talls we have .....

 

[Scham]

And we've been absolutely flush for quality tall forwards

I have an idea, why not both?

 

[Taylor]

Outside running talls. Now you're talking my language.

 

[wahooo]

We do not have the same need for outside run like we have need for a tall forward.

If you want developing outside run then we will have Henry, Western, Walker, Freddie and Giro. For developing talls we have .....

The need for a developing tall isn't so great that we need to reach for Neale at pick 15, that would be crazy.

 

[theGav56]

Would have thought it'd be pretty hard yakka as a small forward when your side is ranked second last for inside 50s, Schultz did well, bloody hell.

Inside 50s and our transition game are our greatest areas that need to be addressed. We have enough pieces in place for our coaching team to fashion a competitive strategy. We won’t be entering next season with the thinking that we will become competitive in a future where Cox/Neale/Chapman/randomtallguy becomes our forward beasts supported by whatever small forward is waiting to Hoover up the crumbs.

 

[wahooo]

Inside 50s and our transition game are our greatest areas that need to be addressed. We have enough pieces in place for our coaching team to fashion a competitive strategy. We won’t be entering next season with the thinking that we will become competitive in a future where Cox/Neale/Chapman/randomtallguy becomes our forward beats supported by whatever small forward is waiting to Hoover up the crumbs.

This. Hence, the need for outside run and skill.

 

[Taylor]

What pick would Matt Taberner be worth taking with in this year's draft, assuming that the performance this season is what Mattwo Taberner performs at in three seasons?

If Shannon Neale's attributes of being an athletic leaping tall that can mark contested and overhead, play some time in the ruck and impact forward or around the ground in link up play, what pick is he worth?

 

[theGav56]

What pick would Matt Taberner be worth taking with in this year's draft, assuming that the performance this season is what Mattwo Taberner performs at in three seasons?

If Shannon Neale's attributes of being an athletic leaping tall that can mark contested and overhead, play some time in the ruck and impact forward or around the ground in link up play, what pick is he worth?

The pick just before whichever pick we think is the correct answer.

 

[Monument Hills]

Under no circumstances should we reach for Neale at our first, far better options out there at our pick. It's like people have forgotten we have a need for outside run as well as a tall.

Three of the fastest players in the draft will hit our list at discount from the academy

I think Taylor answered it best. The outside run box has already been ticked.

 

[DragoDelph]

The need for a developing tall isn't so great that we need to reach for Neale at pick 15, that would be crazy.

Given that Cox is expected to be taken by Essendon early, and we will address outside run and class with our NGA's, I don't see this as being that crazy.
Not as crazy as Adelaide reaching for McAsey, and Melbourne reaching for Pickett last year.
It makes sense. If we need a FWD/Ruck, we take one.

 

[wahooo]

Given that Cox is expected to be taken by Essendon early, and we will address outside run and class with our NGA's, I don't see this as being that crazy.
Not as crazy as Adelaide reaching for McAsey, and Melbourne reaching for Pickett last year.
It makes sense. If we need a FWD/Ruck, we take one.

There will be many players far better than Neale at pick 15.

We could trade down a long way and still pick up Neale, far more value in that, than reaching for him at 15.

 

[theGav56]

Given that Cox is expected to be taken by Essendon early, and we will address outside run and class with our NGA's, I don't see this as being that crazy.
Not as crazy as Adelaide reaching for McAsey, and Melbourne reaching for Pickett last year.
It makes sense. If we need a FWD/Ruck, we take one.

I doubt club’s leak who they are planning to take in drafts. It is just speculation what Essendon may do. BUT when clubs do take players ahead of where they are fairly rated it means good talent is left available as happened with Young last draft.

It looks to me like us using pick 15 on Neale would be comfortably in that category.

 

[Dockeroo]

Given that Cox is expected to be taken by Essendon early, and we will address outside run and class with our NGA's, I don't see this as being that crazy.
Not as crazy as Adelaide reaching for McAsey, and Melbourne reaching for Pickett last year.
It makes sense. If we need a FWD/Ruck, we take one.

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as a reason to back up your argument for taking Neale at 12 is a pretty weak one TBH.
If Adelaide had their time again you think they’d let Young, Serong, Georgiades or Day past their pick? No chance.
Taking Neale with 12 would be desperately poor list management/drafting. If you really wanted him that bad, trade back to 24 or so and at least get a second selection around that pick alongside Neale. Instead of taking him 12 places before any other club and just pissing away that valuable and hard earned draft capital

 

[wahooo]

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as a reason to back up your argument for taking Neale at 12 is a pretty weak one TBH.
If Adelaide had their time again you think they’d let Young, Serong, Georgiades or Day past their pick? No chance.
Taking Neale with 12 would be desperately poor list management/drafting. If you really wanted him that bad, trade back to 24 or so and at least get a second selection around that pick alongside Neale. Instead of taking him 12 places before any other club and just pissing away that valuable and hard earned draft capital

I imagine even pick 24 would be at the absolute top of the range that Neale would go.

 

[DragoDelph]

OK.. So where would you be comfortable taking Neale? Pick 20? 24? Why risk it for the sake of a couple of picks.
How many times has a club jumped in ahead of our pick to take the player we wanted, and thought would still be there? I feel, that this year in particular, the difference between 15 and 25 isn't going to be a lot. Too many unknowns around a lot of prospects.

Also, I was saying that taking Neale at pick 15/16 would be nowhere near as mental as taking McAsey where Adel did last year. If we had a top 10 pick, absolutely take best possible player.

If the club has identified a need, and a pick falls after 15, why not address it?

And as far as Cox being linked to Essendon, If Twomey is saying it, it's pretty even money it will happen.
1. Twomey has intel inside the clubs
2. He is also a bombers man
3. Fits a need for the bombers
4. With 3x Top 10, they can comfortably reach. Same as us with Henry, I don't think we would have matched where we did if we didn't already have Young and Serong in the door.

 

[Dockernut]

Outside running talls. Now you're talking my language.

Enter Neale.

Did I mention that one of his rundowns on the Ch7 story reminded me of a young NN in his Swan Districts GF appearance?

 

[CapitalA]

Given that Cox is expected to be taken by Essendon early, and we will address outside run and class with our NGA's, I don't see this as being that crazy.
Not as crazy as Adelaide reaching for McAsey, and Melbourne reaching for Pickett last year.
It makes sense. If we need a FWD/Ruck, we take one.

Rather get one of the better talls if Cox goes early Reid may slide to our pick.

 

[DragoDelph]

Rather get one of the better talls if Cox goes early Reid may slide to our pick.

Agreed.