List Mgmt. 2020 Young Talent time

[Alfonz]

The question that seems to have been missed in this conversation, and it may be this draft but who are the better outside/mid wingers with a bit of toe that can break lines and have good speed.

Last year it was Stephens, this year the closest comparison is Cook, but most of his highlights have him as a one out fwd flanker.

Macrae is up there but not a line breaker, where/who are the line breakers in this draft..... that point of difference.

I know Chris25 is keen on Cook, and I get why, although he looks like a variant on Sturt... nothing wrong with that either, just chasing another Brad Hill TBH

Cook and Macrae would be getting drafted as footballers and not speed/power, which I have no problem with. If you want genuine speed with our first pick (i.e. not our NGA kids), then I think it needs to be other options.

Of the guys who might be available that are both genuinely quick (sub 3 second 20m) and are rated above average kicks, the only one I see (using draft central guide) is Perkins, and it sounds like he might go top 10. If you go to slightly above 3 second 20m (but still quick), then maybe Carroll is a good option.

Haven't seen anyone mention Bailey Laurie, and I have no real idea, but reading his profile he seems to tick a lot of boxes. Would be nice if he was a tad taller considering our list balance, but if we were going to pull out a WTF? selection, he would be a good candidate.

 

[Lach72]

Why not both

 

[Lach72]

Cook and Macrae would be getting drafted as footballers and not speed/power, which I have no problem with. If you want genuine speed with our first pick (i.e. not our NGA kids), then I think it needs to be other options.

Of the guys who might be available that are both genuinely quick (sub 3 second 20m) and are rated above average kicks, the only one I see (using draft central guide) is Perkins, and it sounds like he might go top 10. If you go to slightly above 3 second 20m (but still quick), then maybe Carroll is a good option.

Haven't seen anyone mention Bailey Laurie, and I have no real idea, but reading his profile he seems to tick a lot of boxes. Would be nice if he was a tad taller considering our list balance, but if we were going to pull out a WTF? selection, he would be a good candidate.

Conor Downie could be an option?

 

[Scham]

Or how about another Fyfe? Can never have too many of those.

 

[Joao]

Conor Downie could be an option?
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Downie is NGA isn't he?

 

[Taylor]

Downie is NGA isn't he?

Hawks I believe

 

[Paracleet]

All this talk about utility talls is making me feel uncomfortable. How many tall players who didn't play key forward as a junior have become lead kpfs at top level in recent years? None? Brown possibly?

I'm getting a Marco Paperone vibe from some of these prospects here.

 

[theGav56]

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Why not both

This phantom has that happening.

Phantom Draft - Draftables' 2020 draft guide

I'll start with the generic long time reader, first time poster cliché. Been floating around the board the past few months digesting a lot of draft news, opinions and footage and thought I'd start my own little project. I've launched a website the last few days but I'll add all the content in...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[DragoDelph]

Whooshkaa Shows

player.whooshkaa.com

Road to the Draft first round Phantom with Sheehan (based on need):
1. Riley Thilthorpe (ADE)
2. Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (WBD) (Bid)
3. Logan McDonald (NTH)
4. Elijah Hollands (SYD)
5. Denver Grainger-Barrass (HAW)
6. Archie Perkins (GCS)
7. Will Philips (ESS)
8. Oliver Henry (ESS)
9. Braeden Campbell (SYD) (Bid)
10. Lachie Jones (PTA) (Bid)
11. Nik Cox (ESS)
12. Finlay Macrae (ADE)
13. Zac Reid (GWS)
14. Heath Chapman (NTH)
15. Tanner Bruhn (FRE)
16. Tom Powell (GWS)
17. Brayden Cook (CWD)
18. Errol Gulden (SYD) (Bid)
19. Sam Berry (GWS)
20. Caleb Poulter (CWD)
21. Nathan O'Driscoll (RIC)
22. Reef McInnes (CWD) (Bid)
23. Jack Carroll (MEL)
24. Connor Stone (MEL)
25. Bailey Laurie (GWS)
26. Jake Bowey (STK)

 

[Taylor]

All this talk about utility talls is making me feel uncomfortable. How many tall players who didn't play key forward as a junior have become lead kpfs at top level in recent years? None? Brown possibly?

I'm getting a Marco Paperone vibe from some of these prospects here.

Do players who played key defender count?

 

[Joao]

Whooshkaa Shows

player.whooshkaa.com

Road to the Draft first round Phantom with Sheehan (based on need):
1. Riley Thilthorpe (ADE)
2. Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (WBD)
3. Logan McDonald (NTH)
4. Elijah Hollands (SYD)
5. Denver Grainger-Barrass (HAW)
6. Archie Perkins (GCS)
7. Will Philips (ESS)
8. Oliver Henry (ESS)
9.

Freo take Bruhn if you are wondering.

Henry, Cox, Perkins, Chapman were all taken before.

I wouldn't read into though, Sheahan clearly has NFI about what clubs needs are so it probably doesn't remotely represent what happens for real (it wasn't close last year).

 

[Chris25]

Haven't seen anyone mention Bailey Laurie, and I have no real idea, but reading his profile he seems to tick a lot of boxes. Would be nice if he was a tad taller considering our list balance, but if we were going to pull out a WTF? selection, he would be a good candidate.

Laurie will be one who goes earlier than most are talking about on here. Probably 15-25 so he enters the mix for our pick.

At the moment, there's potential for someone to 'slide' to our pick - one of Bruhn, Cox, Henry, Reid or Chapman probably. If someone doesn't slide, I expect it would be one of the next group - Cook, Macrae, Carroll, Laurie, O'Driscoll.

 

[Joao]

Bruhn sounds great apart from the fact he hasn't played in forever. One of those ones that could go either way drastically.

 

[theGav56]

Bruhn sounds great apart from the fact he hasn't played in forever. One of those ones that could go either way drastically.

He has that dream mix of inside ability plus disposal skills. Valente has the same attributes, and if you bundle them in with Cerra and Serong and we have a pretty fine, skilled, young midfield. All ball winners. All with better than average disposal.

 

[GingerDocker]

It seems this year is the most wide open field for our first pick that I can remember for some time.

Usually by now we've become irrationally, emotionally attached to some 18 year old and are willing to sell our soul to espouse their impending greatness to all who will listen. Strangely, I'm not sensing that this year.

 

[Dale147]

Western and Walker

 

[Dale147]

Kalin Lane

 

[Walkingwounded]

He has that dream mix of inside ability plus disposal skills. Valente has the same attributes, and if you bundle them in with Cerra and Serong and we have a pretty fine, skilled, young midfield. All ball winners. All with better than average disposal.

Bruhn is what I would call a balanced mid, with high potential to have the outside flair... would be very happy if he was there come our pick.?

One of the most skilled disposals in the draft.

 

[apuchar]

It seems this year is the most wide open field for our first pick that I can remember for some time.

Usually by now we've become irrationally, emotionally attached to some 18 year old and are willing to sell our soul to espouse their impending greatness to all who will listen. Strangely, I'm not sensing that this year.

There is about 10 in our range that I would be happy to have.

 

[Cesoir]

There is about 10 in our range that I would be happy to have.

I'm only interested in Cox.

 

[apuchar]

I'm only interested in Cox.

Too much information

 

[fnerd]

He has that dream mix of inside ability plus disposal skills. Valente has the same attributes, and if you bundle them in with Cerra and Serong and we have a pretty fine, skilled, young midfield. All ball winners. All with better than average disposal.

But decidedly one paced

 

[Carnthedockers]

 

[Joose]

Assuming that we end up with pick 15 I think the following players will be already gone: JUH, DGB, Tilthorpe, McDonald, Cox, Ried, Chapman, Campbell, Jones, Hollands, Phillips, Perkins, Henry and Bruhn

We won't reach for a tall so the group we can pick from include Cook, O'Driscoll, McRae, Carroll, Poulter and Powell. A decent bunch to choose from.

Of that lot I would probably plump for Cook for the outside flair and goal scoring.

 

[Scham]

Cook and Macrae would be getting drafted as footballers and not speed/power, which I have no problem with. If you want genuine speed with our first pick (i.e. not our NGA kids), then I think it needs to be other options.

Of the guys who might be available that are both genuinely quick (sub 3 second 20m) and are rated above average kicks, the only one I see (using draft central guide) is Perkins, and it sounds like he might go top 10. If you go to slightly above 3 second 20m (but still quick), then maybe Carroll is a good option.

Haven't seen anyone mention Bailey Laurie, and I have no real idea, but reading his profile he seems to tick a lot of boxes. Would be nice if he was a tad taller considering our list balance, but if we were going to pull out a WTF? selection, he would be a good candidate.

Take me off ignore! I reckon his highlight vid shows glimpes of Serong and Toby Greene

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Toby Greene

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32

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182cm

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85kg

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