List Mgmt. 2020 Young Talent time

[Freo]

He played a great game, especially in the first quarter. Had me thinking maybe he was the one for a Cat B spot given Chris Walker had a bit of a mare in the 1st quarter (fumbled/turned it over 3 or 4 times from memory).

Alvarez was in the right position a lot. Good footballer, would be a nice story for such a Freo fanatical family to have him drafted but seems unlikely

Agreed, he is a natural footballer. If character is anything to go by, as well as footy smarts, he should be considered.

 

[wayToGo_]

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[Dockeroo]

We could do with Western having a quieter game this weekend. He’s now being talked about over on the North board as a potential bid with their pick 9!
This happened with Logan McDonald earlier in the season...

 

[Taylor]

Is there football being played anymore? I thought the year was done?

 

[Dockeroo]

Is there football being played anymore? I thought the year was done?

Thought there was another WA all stars game this weekend?

 

[Taylor]

Thought there was another WA all stars game this weekend?

I think you're right

 

[fnerd]

We could do with Western having a quieter game this weekend. He’s now being talked about over on the North board as a potential bid with their pick 9!
This happened with Logan McDonald earlier in the season...

Whilst I wholeheartedly agree(western toning it down- we already know what he can do and we’ll be matching a bid)

The last people I’d be worried about talking up a junior player(I mean only club recruiters count in the end anyway) are norf supporters on big footy.
They really are the most deluded bunch on here ... and that’s saying something

 

[Dockeroo]

Whilst I wholeheartedly agree(western toning it down- we already know what he can do and we’ll be matching a bid)

The last people I’d be worried about talking up a junior player(I mean only club recruiters count in the end anyway) are norf supporters on big footy.
They really are the most deluded bunch on here ... and that’s saying something

It would be nice if we drafted western with pick 40 or something and he grew 5cm in the off season!

 

[Dockeroo]

Chapman seems to have a lot of momentum at this stage and is firming to be selected around our first pick range. Could he play as a key forward I wonder?

 

[apuchar]

Chapman seems to have a lot of momentum at this stage and is firming to be selected around our first pick range. Could he play as a key forward I wonder?

I have seen Logue play forward. We could consider going that way if we really wanted Chapman. Not sure what our thinking would be. Best available or best for needs.

 

[Bender571]

It would be nice if we drafted western with pick 40 or something and he grew 5cm in the off season!

Whilst unlikely, not impossible. Frederick reportedly grew 10cm after draft age.

 

[theGav56]

Chapman seems to have a lot of momentum at this stage and is firming to be selected around our first pick range. Could he play as a key forward I wonder?

We are already going to struggle to play all our tall defenders in the same back line. I would prefer to re-home one of them and draft a forward/midfielder type, or goal kicking wing.

 

[Walkingwounded]

We are already going to struggle to play all our tall defenders in the same back line. I would prefer to re-home one of them and draft a forward/midfielder type, or goal kicking wing.

Track record indicates at least 1 or 2, possibly even 3 of our numerous key position players will have a delayed start to the season due to training mishaps, complications with off season surgery.

Having a number of good defenders is a blessing... It’s called depth and fighting for a spot, wish we had it across the entire ground.

One soldier down another one steps up to then take their place.

If one soldier wants to leave for more opportunity, then they may not be in our best 22. But at least they will get us a decent compensation as they might be best 22 at the next club.. examples in recent past Mayne, Crozier, Langdon and dare I say it Weller.... if we could of traded Dixon I’m sure we would of. Like wise with Blakely.. but he seems to have shitte in the nest and other teams know it as well.

Melbourne did the same to us with Hogan.. I’m hoping/expecting Hoges comes good..

Circle of life as an AFL player.

 

[Bring back Drum]

It would be nice if we drafted western with pick 40 or something and he grew 5cm in the off season!

Hmmm, not too sure, his old man John was a nuggety back pocket player for EP then Subi, just reserves I think & is probably about Joel’s height now & mum is very short by any standards.

Her brother is also short, so hopefully some hidden height genes in the family tree somewhere.

 

[Superkoops]

We have A.Pearce coming along ok (with his ankle injury) but he is injury prone. Hamling a delayed start to the next preseason - we don’t yet know whether he needs further surgery because the new surgeon he is to see is based in Melbourne.
Also Logue has struggled to get on the grass.

We then have B. Cox who can go forward. Sounds like JLo prefers him back but he can go forward.

For the majority of the season we had Luke Ryan playing KPD. Not sure it is best use of Ryan’s skills manning him up against Hawkins like he had to in the rain.

Heath Chapman is quality - 193cm. Excellent intercept marker and knows how to find the pill.

I have no prob with the club selecting Chapman at pick 14-16 if that is the player that is best available at that pick. If it happens to be a quick medium midfielder even better still. Another area of need is a tall fwd/ruck - who I’m guessing we’re hoping to get with our second pick.

To say we’re flushed with fully fit ready to go KPD well that would be just not true.

 

[Joao]

Track record indicates at least 1 or 2, possibly even 3 of our numerous key position players will have a delayed start to the season due to training mishaps, complications with off season surgery.

Having a number of good defenders is a blessing... It’s called depth and fighting for a spot, wish we had it across the entire ground.

One soldier down another one steps up to then take their place.

If one soldier wants to leave for more opportunity, then they may not be in our best 22. But at least they will get us a decent compensation as they might be best 22 at the next club.. examples in recent past Mayne, Crozier, Langdon and dare I say it Weller.... if we could of traded Dixon I’m sure we would of. Like wise with Blakely.. but he seems to have shitte in the nest and other teams know it as well.

Melbourne did the same to us with Hogan.. I’m hoping/expecting Hoges comes good..

Circle of life as an AFL player.

You don't draft depth with first round picks and you can't have too much quality in one line because it by necessity (salary cap) is at the expense of the other lines. You have late picks like Silvagni that can do a role when the main guy is not available. Nobody (except GWS midfield) has first rounders as depth.

Not sure what you mean re: Hogan? He left Melbourne because of off-field stuff. They clearly haven't replaced him properly since.

To say we’re flushed with fully fit ready to go KPD well that would be just not true.

To say that KPD was even close to our biggest problem this year is also not true. We got by with Cox and Ryan.

I'll go early, we won't draft a KPD in the first round unless DGB somehow makes it to our pick (which I am ok with) or you count Cox as a KPD.

 

[theGav56]

Track record indicates at least 1 or 2, possibly even 3 of our numerous key position players will have a delayed start to the season due to training mishaps, complications with off season surgery.

Having a number of good defenders is a blessing... It’s called depth and fighting for a spot, wish we had it across the entire ground.

One soldier down another one steps up to then take their place.

If one soldier wants to leave for more opportunity, then they may not be in our best 22. But at least they will get us a decent compensation as they might be best 22 at the next club.. examples in recent past Mayne, Crozier, Langdon and dare I say it Weller.... if we could of traded Dixon I’m sure we would of. Like wise with Blakely.. but he seems to have shitte in the nest and other teams know it as well.

Melbourne did the same to us with Hogan.. I’m hoping/expecting Hoges comes good..

Circle of life as an AFL player.

So... are you saying we should draft Chapman?

 

[theGav56]

We have A.Pearce coming along ok (with his ankle injury) but he is injury prone. Hamling a delayed start to the next preseason - we don’t yet know whether he needs further surgery because the new surgeon he is to see is based in Melbourne.
Also Logue has struggled to get on the grass.

We then have B. Cox who can go forward. Sounds like JLo prefers him back but he can go forward.

For the majority of the season we had Luke Ryan playing KPD. Not sure it is best use of Ryan’s skills manning him up against Hawkins like he had to in the rain.

Heath Chapman is quality - 193cm. Excellent intercept marker and knows how to find the pill.

I have no prob with the club selecting Chapman at pick 14-16 if that is the player that is best available at that pick. If it happens to be a quick medium midfielder even better still. Another area of need is a tall fwd/ruck - who I’m guessing we’re hoping to get with our second pick.

To say we’re flushed with fully fit ready to go KPD well that would be just not true.

Depth is fine with me, but at a mid first round pick there will be a range of options rather than a stand out best available.

Logue was available for the final rounds this year, and I doubt Hamling has sat around waiting for the pandemic to pass before sorting out his ankle. Young is another returning soldier whose skills match what you identified as Chapman's.

That's a massive investment in defence the club would have made over a sustained period, especially when midfield and forward is performing at a comparatively low level.

 

[CapitalA]

You don't draft depth with first round picks and you can't have too much quality in one line because it by necessity (salary cap) is at the expense of the other lines. You have late picks like Silvagni that can do a role when the main guy is not available. Nobody (except GWS midfield) has first rounders as depth.

Not sure what you mean re: Hogan? He left Melbourne because of off-field stuff. They clearly haven't replaced him properly since.

To say that KPD was even close to our biggest problem this year is also not true. We got by with Cox and Ryan.

I'll go early, we won't draft a KPD in the first round unless DGB somehow makes it to our pick (which I am ok with) or you count Cox as a KPD.

Good teams seem to draft depth with first round picks for example wet toast drafting Brander pick 12 along with Allen while still having full stock of KPF players.
They do have to be highly rated though which many KPF players are this draft....

 

[Joao]

Good teams seem to draft depth with first round picks for example wet toast drafting Brander pick 12 along with Allen while still having full stock of KPF players.
They do have to be highly rated though which many KPF players are this draft....

Brander isn't depth, he is a replacement.

Also, KPDs are much easier to find later in the draft than KPFs are. So even in that scenario I understand why they took Brander when they had the chance.

 

[theGav56]

Good teams seem to draft depth with first round picks for example wet toast drafting Brander pick 12 along with Allen while still having full stock of KPF players.

Were they drafting depth? I think they recognized talls require a development period. We didn’t draft Cox or Logue for depth. We drafted them to be ready now.

 

[CapitalA]

Brander isn't depth, he is a replacement.

Also, KPDs are much easier to find later in the draft than KPFs are. So even in that scenario I understand why they took Brander when they had the chance.

He hasn't replaced him yet and he was picked up 3 years ago still yet to replace him since he (Kennedy) re-signed another year.

 

[Joao]

He hasn't replaced him yet and he was picked up 3 years ago still yet to replace him since he re-signed another year.

That's because Kennedy is still a lot better. Dude almost a certainty to retire next year though and Brander will get his chance (in theory).

Not remotely uncommon to draft KPPs several years before you need them. Not sure anyone would dispute that either.

 

[CapitalA]

He hasn't replaced him yet and he was picked up 3 years ago still yet to replace him since he (Kennedy) re-signed another year.

Our KPF stocks aren't getting any younger either 28, 28 and 26 and two of them very injury prone...

Same story for our KPD's Pearce played few games and Hamling is getting on...

 

[CapitalA]

That's because Kennedy is still a lot better. Dude almost a certainty to retire next year though and Brander will get his chance (in theory).

Not remotely uncommon to draft KPPs several years before you need them. Not sure anyone would dispute that either.

So is he not then depth? if he is sitting on the sidelines developing waiting to get a game when there is a spot due to injury?