Live Event 2021 AFL National Draft discussion thread

[Strapping Young Lad]

 

[TylerDurden]

21) Freo - Johnson
22) North - Motlop
23) Hawks - Sonsie
24) Cats - Knevitt
25) Cats - McDonald
26) Butler/Howes/Bazzo/Goater/Taylor/Curtis/Clarke?

I reckon we're locked on Sonsie at 23.

We'll get Sonsie. North will take the Goat.
Johnson to Freo, nothing surer.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

The way I see it playing out:

Freo: Johnson
North: Motlop/Butler/Bazzo
Hawthorn: Sonsie
Geelong: Goater/Knevitt/Draper
Geelong: Conway/Butler/Above
Hawthorn: One of Butler/Draper/Goater/Knevitt/Taylor/Bazzo (BPA order in my opinion)available. I'd think we're pretty set for this draft to be a big W in my book.

It will surely play out that way for us (with Howes also an option for us).

 

[Judd2Sewell]

We'll get Sonsie. North will take the Goat.
Johnson to Freo, nothing surer.

Another midfielder for North? Surely they are looking at Butler or Motlop. Unless they think the goat will stay a HBF/HFF.

 

[JaegarTime]

Hoping for 2 of Sonsie/Johnson/Draper/Goater with our current seconds.
Would consider trying to swap a future second for one of Richmond’s seconds this year to grab Judson Clarke/Butler/Motlop.

Reckon that’d be an absolutely stellar haul.

 

[TDS7]

It will surely play out that way for us (with Howes also an option for us).

I liked Howes a lot, but he hasn't got the track record Butler, Draper, Knevitt, and Taylor have while not being as high an upside prospect as Goater.

Either way I am ecstatic at how this has turned out. I had to settle for Judson Clarke in my phantom, now we're getting shots at player I rate around 13-20 in Butler, Sonsie, Draper and Goater.

 

[kenneje]

Another midfielder for North? Surely they are looking at Butler or Motlop. Unless they think the goat will stay a HBF/HFF.

Goater a huge North fan and is all but twerking for them.
Sneaking suspicion they take Sonsie though.

Simpkin, Davies-Uniacke, Horne-Francis, Phillips, Sonsie, Stephenson, Thomas and Powell is a LOT of midfied talent with Cunnington, Anderson and Ziebell also there.

 

[chopflop]

Think we stand pat at 21 unless someone offers a future first then we weigh it up based on the players left and where we rated them on our board.

If we stand pat at 21, I expect us to field offers to slide back to the early 30s for perhaps the cost of a future 2nd. Lots of options.

If nothing comes that we like, we get to just pick, which is also a great result.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

I liked Howes a lot, but he hasn't got the track record Butler, Draper, Knevitt, and Taylor have while not being as high an upside prospect as Goater.

Either way I am ecstatic at how this has turned out. I had to settle for Judson Clarke in my phantom, now we're getting shots at player I rate around 13-20 in Butler, Sonsie, Draper and Goater.

Same. So many options for us now at 23 and 26.

Sonsie at 23 is a dream. He will round out the young midfield group. Then we will be able to use 26 on a variety of different kinds of players.

Thank you GWS, Richmond, Sydney and Brisbane for throwing curveballs.

 

[sherrif]

It will surely play out that way for us (with Howes also an option for us).

It all depends on whether Hawthorn was seriously looking at Jonson at pick 7 as rumoured. If you still value him highly then to get him it would require 23 and 26 to get pick 21 from us (Fremantle). Unlikely unless you thought Johnson was a top 8 pick and you nearly drafted him ahead of Ward.

 

[sherrif]

Had a look on their website, are we really the only club that doesn’t have a single player managed by them?

Can’t recall what they’ve done to make a bad name for themselves off the top of my head but did find that interesting.

They have stuffed Freo around no end and always release details of private conversations involving their players. They also seem to think every player of theirs should be traded if they request it even when there is no decent trade available to a team to make tat happen.

 

[kenneje]

It all depends on whether Hawthorn was seriously looking at Jonson at pick 7 as rumoured. If you still value him highly then to get him it would require 23 and 26 to get pick 21 from us (Fremantle). Unlikely unless you thought Johnson was a top 8 pick and you nearly drafted him ahead of Ward.

I imagine that's what it takes to get the trade done, potentially 23 + future second?

They have stuffed Freo around no end and always release details of private conversations involving their players. They also seem to think every player of theirs should be traded if they request it even when there is no decent trade available to a team to make tat happen.

Thanks for explaining, a lot of people seem to dislike their management style.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

It all depends on whether Hawthorn was seriously looking at Jonson at pick 7 as rumoured. If you still value him highly then to get him it would require 23 and 26 to get pick 21 from us (Fremantle). Unlikely unless you thought Johnson was a top 8 pick and you nearly drafted him ahead of Ward.

Don't think it's worth that, considering it's likely that Sonsie will be available at 23, and several players that address a need will be available at 26.

Freo will surely take Johnson and not think twice about it.

 

[Davo-27]

so many great options available and we effectively have pick 3 and pick 6 tomorrow.

M.Johnson - Mid
J.Goater - outside mid/hbf
M.Knevitt - Mid
R.Bazzo - KPD
N.Long - Mid
C.MacDonald - Mid
T.Sonsie - HFF/part time Mid
J.Clarke - HFF/Mid
C.Dean - KPD
M.Roberts - Mid

 

[TDS7]

Same. So many options for us now at 23 and 26.

Sonsie at 23 is a dream. He will round out the young midfield group. Then we will be able to use 26 on a variety of different kinds of players.

Thank you GWS, Richmond, Sydney and Brisbane for throwing curveballs.

Day-DGB-Ward-Sonsie-Butler/Draper/Goater as a spine for the future is pretty damn good. Day and Ward are lifers, and while I am iffy on taking two inconsistent prospects so close together the payoff if Goater can learn to kick half-decent (get him in the gym with Mitch and see I say), Sonsie figures out how to contribute when he isn't winning his own ball, Butler becomes Winguard 2 or Draper adds some muscle and becomes a genuine midfielder we have a premiership-winning group there. Tack on whoever we get next year while the younguns develop and I am very optimistic in our future. My god, this is a dream come true, a home-run draft no matter what at this point.

 

[cryptor]

I'm wondering if maybe Freo aren't as keen on Johnson as we might think. Surely if they were they would have traded into the last few picks of the first round to snag him given so many were waiting for him to be picked at any point since our first. But maybe they tried and no one was willing to deal.

 

[kenneje]

Interesting trade hypothesized on the North board. Our picks 23 + 26 for 22 + 34.

If rumors are to be believe and we rate Johnson and Sonsie as top 15, this makes sense.

 

[TDS7]

I'm wondering if maybe Freo aren't as keen on Johnson as we might think. Surely if they were they would have traded into the last few picks of the first round to snag him given so many were waiting for him to be picked at any point since our first. But maybe they tried and no one was willing to deal.

He's likely interviewed in a way that makes teams wary he might be a rental for three years before flying back home. Mitch might know him from his time in WA, but I don't think he is an option for most Vic clubs at this point.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Day-DGB-Ward-Sonsie-Butler/Draper/Goater as a spine for the future is pretty damn good. Day and Ward are lifers, and while I am iffy on taking two inconsistent prospects so close together the payoff if Goater can learn to kick half-decent (get him in the gym with Mitch and see I say), Sonsie figures out how to contribute when he isn't winning his own ball, Butler becomes Winguard 2 or Draper adds some muscle and becomes a genuine midfielder we have a premiership-winning group there. Tack on whoever we get next year while the younguns develop and I am very optimistic in our future. My god, this is a dream come true, a home-run draft no matter what at this point.

I think Sonsie would play off a HFF and move up around the ball. Probably competing with S. Mitchell and Moore for a role in the side.

IMO he wouldn't have an issue getting the pill playing on the outside with all our ball winners. Consistency is something that can be worked on and improved upon, it's his quality kicking skills and dual-sidedness the we'd be drafting him for.

 

[cryptor]

Interesting trade hypothesized on the North board. Our picks 23 + 26 for 22 + 34.

If rumors are to be believe and we rate Johnson and Sonsie as top 15, this makes sense.

How does that make sense? Both are still on the board and our current hand gives us a reasonable shot at both. Doing this deal guarantees us one of them but pretty much rules out the other. There's so many other great options still available that even if both are taken before our current next pick we're likely still going to get two great options.

 

[kenneje]

How does that make sense? Both are still on the board and our current hand gives us a reasonable shot at both. Doing this deal guarantees us one of them but pretty much rules out the other. There's so many other great options still available that even if both are taken before our current next pick we're likely still going to get two great options.

Two things would have to be true for it to make sense - we rate both of them significantly higher than anyone else on the board and we believe both are a high chance to be gone at pick 23.

I'd do it as I'm emotionally invested in Sonsie haha, but it's very unlikely considering the talent still available!

 

[TDS7]

I think Sonsie would play off a HFF and move up around the ball. Probably competing with S. Mitchell and Moore for a role in the side.

IMO he wouldn't have an issue getting the pill playing on the outside with all our ball winners. Consistency is something that can be worked on and improved upon, it's his quality kicking skills and dual-sidedness the we'd be drafting him for.

His clearance and stoppage work is a big strength of his, I think he is underrated as a midfielder. With our midfield group, he probably plays a Winguard role swapping off the forward flanks/pockets, but his fitness can be shocking sometimes, and it's those points in games where he really drags a team down. Not being the team centrepiece and being able to rest in the forward line should do him wonders, but I'd still be worried that he will get gassed and be a liability late in the game.

Case and point: The VFL game he was lined up as a forward for a bit, then ran through the mids and was stellar, then went back forward for a breather then back again. The Academy v Cats game he was running with Holmes(?) and got quickly worn out by being a permanent mid that couldn't contribute while being responsible for his man.

 

[H00t]

Exciting that a number of talented players are still available and we were able to get Ward.

Hopefully we get Sonsie and he is able to live up to his talent.

The wheel on our rebuild keeps turning. More pieces slowly being added into place. Will be exciting to see how Mitchell and co. can develop whoever we pick.

 

[RX Hawk]

What happened to talk about "Roland Fejo Jr"? Any chance we take him with any late picks?

 

[chopflop]

It all depends on whether Hawthorn was seriously looking at Jonson at pick 7 as rumoured. If you still value him highly then to get him it would require 23 and 26 to get pick 21 from us (Fremantle). Unlikely unless you thought Johnson was a top 8 pick and you nearly drafted him ahead of Ward.

Also depends on where goater, butler, sonsie etc were on our board relative to Johnson. If we rated two of those top 15, there is no way we trade 23 and 26 to grab one player.

Someone will offer you a future second and a slight downgrade. Don't think it will be us personally.

 

[chopflop]

Ward was definitely a meat and potatoes choice. I would like us to add the spice now. X-factor, athleticism, upside please.

Butler and Goater for me.