Strategy 2021 Draft and Hypothetical pick trade proposals

[Strapping Young Lad]

Lol seriously can we just have a ban on posting things ol clickbait Kornes says…

none of it is interesting and it’s all designed to just stir people up.

Hodgey wants a new rule! Hodgey gets a new rule.

No more clickbait shit from Cornes in here.


Also:

Can we also threadban Rendell quotes. The bloke is senile.

Done

 

[Gohawthorn13]

If we dont get cerra (we most likely wont), we want him to go to melbourne, would make carlton more desperate and could give up pick 6 straight for mitchell

Want more than pick 6 he’s a Brownlow medallist.

 

[Cyzzametimbres]

Want more than pick 6 he’s a Brownlow medallist.

He’s no Adam Saad

 

[Slysh]

Want more than pick 6 he’s a Brownlow medallist.

He was in 2018, it means very little now.

He is an elite inside mid but he has had player 12 round of footy at that level over the past 2 years.

He is great but the Bownlow does nothing for his stock now

 

[killerspud]

If the Titch to Blues rumours are true:

3 way trade.
We lose Mitchell and pick 24. Gain pick 6, Bulldogs future 2nd.
Bulldogs lose their first which will be 17 or 18, plus a future 2nd. Gain 24 and 25.
Carlton lose pick 6 and 25, gain 17/18.

We get pick 6.
Bulldogs get more points for Darcy.
Blues gain Mitchell but still have a first rounder.

We might need to offer up our later picks but something like this could work for everyone.

If Titch to the blues is true

Then only picks 6 and 25 will get it done for me.

take 5, 6, 21,24,25 or try and turn some of those 20's picks into a first round.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Want more than pick 6 he’s a Brownlow medallist.

Pick 6 for Mitchell would be a great outcome.

Wouldn't accept anything less.

I'm hearing that Sydney may demand more than pick 16 for out of contract Jordan Dawson.

Titch not OOC for 6 is completely reasonable in that case. And would probably be the minimum we'd accept.

 

[Bardo State]

I was looking at the Fox article on which players are still FAs (mostly scraps). Was surprised to see Nick Holman.

A decent option if the club is targeting a pressure forward. Tough bastard that lays lots of tackles and played junior footy with Jars.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I was looking at the Fox article on which players are still FAs (mostly scraps). Was surprised to see Nick Holman.

A decent option if the club is targeting a pressure forward. Tough bastard that lays lots of tackles and played junior footy with Jars.

Not the best kick. Doubt we’d be interested.

 

[Suntory Boss Coffee]

Archie Smith

44

Archie Smith

Age

28

Ht

203cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.5

2star

K

2.6

1star

HB

6.9

4star

CL

2.1

4star

HO

14.4

5star

D

4.7

1star

K

1.7

1star

HB

3.0

2star

CL

2.0

4star

HO

11.3

5star

D

12.4

4star

K

3.4

2star

HB

9.0

5star

CL

3.0

5star

HO

17.8

5star

wants a trade. Wouldn't mind for depth with Brooksby gone. Ceglar and McEvoy are 30. Archie only 26. Wouldnt cost much.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Pick 6 for Mitchell would be a great outcome.

Wouldn't accept anything less.

I'm hearing that Sydney may demand more than pick 16 for out of contract Jordan Dawson.

Titch not OOC for 6 is completely reasonable in that case. And would probably be the minimum we'd accept.

I am hoping this new regime at the Hawks is far more hardline with the value we put on our players when it comes trading.

 

[Rocket72]

Archie Smith wants a trade. Wouldn't mind for depth with Brooksby gone. Ceglar and McEvoy are 30. Archie only 26. Wouldnt cost much.

I didn't recall much about him so looked up his stats. Didn't tell a great story. You know something we don't or predicting a meteoric rise in his late 20's?

 

[daniel23]

I didn't recall much about him so looked up his stats. Didn't tell a great story. You know something we don't or predicting a meteoric rise in his late 20's?

Very Likely to get delisted

 

[Bardo State]

Not the best kick. Doubt we’d be interested.

Fair enough. I think he has something the forwards lacks right now.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Archie Smith wants a trade. Wouldn't mind for depth with Brooksby gone. Ceglar and McEvoy are 30. Archie only 26. Wouldnt cost much.

Archie Smith is a great human. Dealt with the loss of his younger brother from suicide not long ago, and has spoken very openly about that pain.

If we want some back up to Ned it might make sense, as he’s a seasoned ruckman at 26.

 

[Rocket72]

Mitchell for Cerra. What gets that done?

 

[MrPremiership]

I am hoping this new regime at the Hawks is far more hardline with the value we put on our players when it comes trading.

If Adam Saad goes for Pick 8 less than 12 months ago, then 1 top 10 is a minimum starting point for negotiations.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Mitchell for Cerra. What gets that done?

Tom wanting to move to WA for one.

 

[MrPremiership]

Tom wanting to move to WA for one.

Details, details, details

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Mitchell for Cerra. What gets that done?

Would be intriguing if Tom said he was open to a move back to WA.

 

[TylerDurden]

Would be intriguing if Tom said he was open to a move back to WA.

You'd assume that deal could get done.

 

[Steven Tyler]

Tom wanting to move to WA for one.

Cerra wanting to move to Hawthorn for two.

 

[daniel23]

Would be intriguing if Tom said he was open to a move back to WA.

Being the same age as neale I'd say it would play out how that did. Freo weren't even remotely close to paying what Brisbane would demand , they're keen to keep on the youth path instead of paying overs for players in the wrong age demographic for their list build.

 

[Roddy27]

I don't see us landing a big fish. I see us landing role players and/or developing types.

I do see us going for picks this year. So being involved a cerra trade but NOT trading for cerra himself makes sense.

 

[Roddy27]

Archie Smith wants a trade. Wouldn't mind for depth with Brooksby gone. Ceglar and McEvoy are 30. Archie only 26. Wouldnt cost much.

He's an unrestricted free agent. So we will just sign him if we want him during that period. No need to trade.

I don't mind it for the interim.

 

[Bardo State]

Being the same age as neale I'd say it would play out how that did. Freo weren't even remotely close to paying what Brisbane would demand , they're keen to keep on the youth path instead of paying overs for players in the wrong age demographic for their list build.

It really fascinates me how BigFooty fans think about player age. Hawthorn is right down the bottom of the ladder with North, Adelaide, GC and Collingwood in the rebuild phase. At that extreme end and with established issues of fit for the team, Mitchell is perhaps just old enough to justify trading him for younger talent.

But it seems every club that didn't make the GF has fans on BigFooty mortified at the idea that their club would trade in an elite player on the wrong side of 26.

Freo have hit the high end of the draft for quite a few years now and were on the cusp of the eight with a young, improving team. If they aren't going to flip the switch now to add elite players and make their push over the next 3-5 years, what are they waiting for? Another 4 years of top 10 picks and treading water?

I think many AFL fans are comfortable with the idea of permanently rebuilding because it means there are never any expectations. You can never really feel disappointed if it's always a rebuild year.

 

[Slysh]

You'd assume that deal could get done.

Not even close, Freo would hold Cerra at a much higher value (to them) than Mitchell and fair enough.