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List Mgmt. 2021 List Management: Academy, Contracts, Trading & Draft

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Some more trade and draft resources. Courtesy of Lore.

Key Off-Season Dates
This is a comprehensive list including dates for draft combines, list lodgements, delisted free agency windows and return to train dates. I had to collate these from three different club websites because the AFL is lazy af and doesn't have it on their website, so thought it might be helpful to share:

AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

Grand Final
Saturday September 25

Draft Combine – Vic Country
Friday October 1

Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
Wednesday October 3 - Friday October 15

Trade Period (picks and players)
Monday October 4 (9am) – Wednesday October 13 (7.30pm)

Draft Combines (States and Regions)
VM: Saturday October 9 (tbc)
Qld: Sunday October 10
Tas: Monday October 11
SA: Saturday October 16
WA: Sunday October 17
NSW & ACT: tbc
NT: will join SA or Qld

Trade Period (picks only)
Monday October 18 – Monday November 15

List Lodgement 1
Friday October 29

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
Wednesday November 3 – Tuesday November 9

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
Wednesday November 10

Delisted Free Agency Window 3
Thursday November 11 – Monday November 15

AFL Pre-Season Commences (First to fourth year players)
Monday November 22

National Draft
Round 1: Wednesday November 24 (7pm)
Round 2–end: Thursday November 25 (7pm)

Preseason and Rookie Drafts
Friday November 26 (3.20pm)

Final List Lodgement
Monday November 29

Pre-Season Commences (All other players)
Monday December 6

Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP)
December - March (tbc)

Pre-Season Christmas Break
Sunday December 19 - Sunday January 9

Draft Order & Future Pick Tracker



FAQs & Resources Thread

It has an index at the top with threadmarks so it's easy to find what you're looking for – or easier than scrolling through 250 pages of AFL Rules, Regulations and CBA pdfs anyway.

These sorts of questions are all answered along with a bunch of other resources made by posters from across BigFooty (feel free to add to it!):
www.bigfooty.com

Resource - FAQs: Rules, Regulations and Resources for Player Movements in the AFL

List sizes Club age and height profiles Salary cap information Trading rules including salary dumps Father/son & academy draft bids Free agency compensation formula & more
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GWS List Summary

Senior List

33: 36 less delisted Shipley & Hutchesson, delisted Wehr (to be reselected in rookie draft), traded Finlayson, plus DFA signing of Brander. 3 to 5 spots available at ND.

1 Phil Davis - 2022
2 Jacob Hopper - 2023
3 Stephen Coniglio - 2026
4 Toby Greene - 2026
5 Tanner Bruhn - 2022
6 Lachie Whitfield - 2027
7 Lachlan Ash - 2023
8 Callan Ward - 2022
9 Ryan Angwin - 2022
10 Jacob Wehr - 2022 [delisted with an agreement to select in the rookie draft]
11 Brayden Preuss - 2023
12 Tom Green - 2023
13 Isaac Cumming - 2022
14 Tim Taranto - 2022
15 Sam Taylor - 2025
16 Brent Daniels - 2025
18 Conor Stone - 2024
19 Nick Haynes - 2024
22 Josh Kelly - 2029
23 Jesse Hogan - 2022
24 Matthew De Boer - 2022
25 Lachlan Keeffe - 2022
26 Jake Riccardi - 2023
27 Harry Himmelberg - 2023
29 Cam Fleeton - 2022
30 Matt Flynn - 2023
32 Kieran Briggs - 2022
33 Xavier O'Halloran - 2022
36 Harry Perryman - 2022
37 Ian Hill - 2022
39 Connor Idun - 2022
40 Adam Kennedy - 2022
44 Jack Buckley - 2022

+ Jarrod Brander - 2022 (selected in first DFA window)

Rookie List - A

4: 7 less delisted Reid & Buntine, retired Shane Mumford. 0 to 2 spots available for rookie draft.

28 Zach Sproule - 2022
38 Daniel Lloyd - 2022
42 Jake Stein - 2022
45 James Peatling - 2022

Rookie List - B

2: full

35 Will Shaw - 2022
46 Callum M Brown - 2022 (Irish international rookie, extended 1 year under COVID rules)
 
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sydney_gws said:
I agree. We can get players for other parts of the field with 13;
Fahey, Brandtner are also from other parts of the ground.
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Callaghan is a great prospect so missing out on him would really suck because he has the potential to be really special so we should be in no rush or not feel any pressure at all to trade pick 2 unless its a great deal and including 13 makes that less appealing. We have all the leverage with multiple teams looking to trade up and we're the only tean that is willing to maybe part ways with a top pick.
 
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2021 AFL Draft Pocket Profile: Luke Nankervis

Sandringham Dragons' Luke Nankervis' AFL Draft Pocket Profile.
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May as well put this one out as well, I know for a fact we've met with Luke at least twice this year and he hasn't been widely spoken about outside of myself and eDPS, but I wouldn't be shocked to see us get him through a live trade in the 40's/ 50's
 
If Twomey is suggesting Callaghan looks poised to head our way…. I’m happy with that.
We should end up with Callaghan, Fahey and Gibcus/Rachele/Andrew.

Happy with any of those.
 

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Giant Pete said:
If Twomey is suggesting Callaghan looks poised to head our way…. I’m happy with that.
We should end up with Callaghan, Fahey and Gibcus/Rachele/Andrew.

Happy with any of those.
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Not confident any of those 3 last to 13 (15)
 
My thoughts are that after the Greenwood fiasco, this will may alter the Suns strategy.
They are now far more likely to select a mid as replacement. My guess Hobbs or possibly Ward.
Assuming we take Finn, This leads to both Gibcus and Andrew being on the board.
I think in that event more likely than not, one of them gets to 13.
 
Hendo_21 said:
If 13 was a requirement in the deal I'm happy to walk away and take Callaghan at 2
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I'd take 4 and 6 over 2 and 13. Two top talents > one top talent and a bit more of a gamble. I like the idea of Callaghan and really want him, but I'm not convinced he's better than two of the other options.
 
GWS Goose said:
My thoughts are that after the Greenwood fiasco, this will may alter the Suns strategy.
They are now far more likely to select a mid as replacement. My guess Hobbs or possibly Ward.
Assuming we take Finn, This leads to both Gibcus and Andrew being on the board.
I think in that event more likely than not, one of them gets to 13.
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Or somebody like esssndon does 11 for 13,2022r2
 
dlanod said:
I'd take 4 and 6 over 2 and 13. Two top talents > one top talent and a bit more of a gamble. I like the idea of Callaghan and really want him, but I'm not convinced he's better than two of the other options.
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Yeah that's fair I think I'd still rather have 2 and hope someones slides to 13, Callaghan is in the top tier of prospect in this draft class and we're the last pick to gurantee the opportunity to draft him so I'd take it, but in saying that I'd get wanting to do 4 and 6 , taking 2 swings instead of 1. Having 6 also gives you the chance to trade back a couple spots in that 7-9 range if the board breaks well for us and acquire some extra picks.
 
dlanod said:
I'd take 4 and 6 over 2 and 13. Two top talents > one top talent and a bit more of a gamble. I like the idea of Callaghan and really want him, but I'm not convinced he's better than two of the other options.
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Similar thoughts. I would be quite happy with Callaghan at #2 as the absolute best quality prospect, but if Freo pushed hard and offered up #4 & #6 (before bids), then I'd be happy to do that swap. I would not be happy handing our picks over for #6 & #8 though. The latter would see us miss our targets, but with the former, 2 of our 4 favoured targets would be an excellent get IMHO. Yes we lose Callaghan to Freo, and worst case Suns pick Andrew - but best case they take Hobbs - then we get our first choice, then Hawks pick & presumably they'll take a mid such as Ward, so we likely walk away with 2 of Rachele, Andrew & Gibcus - all well rated but also meeting needs.

Once we've matched on Fahey, I'd also use any residual pick on a useful midfielder - someone like James Willis (an explosive balanced mid; other options could be Hugh Jackson or James Tunstill) would be my ideal, although I see from a couple of sources we've been linked to Luke Nankervis. But my thinking would be that he's in the mix if we end up with Callaghan; with the alternative scenario a midfielder would be a better option.

Whilst unlikely to happen, Rachele, Andrew, Fahey & Willis seems like a perfect combination for our list. Then back Lachie Ash to step into the role Callaghan would otherwise be aimed at.
 

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I'm really happy for us to keep pick 2 and take Callaghan. The only deal I think I would consider is one with GC for pick 3.
If we get neither Finn or MAC in this draft I think that's an L.
If we take Finn at 2, GC will take Mac at 3 and vice versa. That's just how I see it going down.
I don't think the Freo trade for 6-8 is worth it for us...even if Johnson goes to Hawks.
I was HIGH on getting MAC but I've come around to just taking Finn Callaghan and whoever gets squeezed out to 13 (pray for Gibcus). I think those are the two players who will affect the team quickly and effectively from day dot.
The talk around Rachele I understand, 2 Toby Greens sounds great 😅. But I don't think it's the play.

Here's how I see it going down
1.Horne
2.Darcey ⏬
3.Daicos ⏫ depending on mood
4.Callaghan
5.Andrew
6.Rachele
7.Johnson
8.Hobbs
9.Ward
10.Milera
After that it's a crap shoot.
Port,Dons,Eagles,Saints would all have to pass on Gibcus for him to slide to us.

Can't wait to see how wrong I am 😅
Thoughts? Feelings?
 
PaythePerryman said:
I'm really happy for us to keep pick 2 and take Callaghan. The only deal I think I would consider is one with GC for pick 3.
If we get neither Finn or MAC in this draft I think that's an L.
If we take Finn at 2, GC will take Mac at 3 and vice versa. That's just how I see it going down.
I don't think the Freo trade for 6-8 is worth it for us...even if Johnson goes to Hawks.
I was HIGH on getting MAC but I've come around to just taking Finn Callaghan and whoever gets squeezed out to 13 (pray for Gibcus). I think those are the two players who will affect the team quickly and effectively from day dot.
The talk around Rachele I understand, 2 Toby Greens sounds great 😅. But I don't think it's the play.

Here's how I see it going down
1.Horne
2.Darcey ⏬
3.Daicos ⏫ depending on mood
4.Callaghan
5.Andrew
6.Rachele
7.Johnson
8.Hobbs
9.Ward
10.Milera
After that it's a crap shoot.
Port,Dons,Eagles,Saints would all have to pass on Gibcus for him to slide to us.

Can't wait to see how wrong I am 😅
Thoughts? Feelings?
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Seems pretty good to me what you have said.
 
Glad to see that its looking more likely we will be going with Callaghan and given that Leon is apparently keen on him can only Imagine that one of the key conversations between Leon and Caruso was Leon reminding Caruso how he screwed him over by not picking Butters and it would be great if he didn't do it again.
 
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Been a long year, and whilst it feels like we're locked in to Callaghan and Fahey at the very least, there's still some fun to be had reading about the prospects you want at 13, possibly later in the draft and the rookie
 
Orange crush said:
Looking at some phantom drafts .... the chance of Jye Amiss at 13 is interesting
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My view is that if the Sun's and us both take a mid, there'll be one of the touted talls at our second pick. I think Freo may take Amiss with their second pick. Looking at what I think the clubs will do, I don't think 2 clubs will pick Mac and Gibcus. A number of clubs will consider both of them, but I feel that one sneaks through.
 

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GWS Goose said:
My view is that if the Sun's and us both take a mid, there'll be one of the touted talls at our second pick. I think Freo may take Amiss with their second pick. Looking at what I think the clubs will do, I don't think 2 clubs will pick Mac and Gibcus. A number of clubs will consider both of them, but I feel that one sneaks through.
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Hawthorn's phantom draft had us trading 4,15 for 8,10,52 with Freo. Alot of unrealistic picks/ trades in phantom drafts
 
GWS Goose said:
My view is that if the Sun's and us both take a mid, there'll be one of the touted talls at our second pick. I think Freo may take Amiss with their second pick. Looking at what I think the clubs will do, I don't think 2 clubs will pick Mac and Gibcus. A number of clubs will consider both of them, but I feel that one sneaks through.
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I definitely think there's a chance - more likely Gibcus slides than Andrew IMHO.

The only thing difficult to predict will be a club trading up a few places to grab the slider before he reaches our pick - Richmond, Sydney, Brisbane even Melbourne could do that.
 
sydney_gws said:
Hawthorn's phantom draft had us trading 4,15 for 8,10,52 with Freo. Alot of unrealistic picks/ trades in phantom drafts
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Yes. Supporters and journalists want Callaghan for their club, but don't want to pay the price for him ... so make completely rubbish swaps to achieve their outcome.

GWS has said all along, it will take a hugely beneficial trade to prise pick #2 (4) out of our hands. I don't think any club will meet that price.
 
At this point if we haven't traded pick 2 it seems like it's going to be Callaghan, if they wanted pretty much anyone else they could trade back. That's the right decision in my eyes, never have understood the Mac buzz if it ends up happening (unlikely I think) then I'll be disappoinited. Callaghan + Fahey and whoever we end up picking at 13 is a pretty good haul, 13 still seems super up in the air and could go in a ton of different ways don't know what to expect at all there. Small forward makes sense but not sure there's one worthy of taking at 13 considering Rachele is likely long gone by that point, could be a trade down spot potentially.
 

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