List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part I

[George]

Delisted;
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Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
3. Zak Jones

3

Zak Jones

Age

30

Ht

182cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.8

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.0

5star

CL

1.7

4star

D

19.1

4star

K

10.6

4star

HB

8.6

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.1

4star

CL

4.9

5star

D

7.0

2star

K

2.8

1star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.6

4star

CL

1.0

3star

- Link
6. Sebastian Ross

6

Sebastian Ross

Age

32

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.3

5star

K

13.7

5star

HB

12.6

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

17.5

4star

K

8.9

4star

HB

8.6

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

2.1

4star

D

15.2

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.8

5star

(RFA) - Link
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
15. Jack Billings

14

Jack Billings

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

19.7

5star

K

11.7

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.3

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

4.6

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

(RFA) - Link
18. Patrick Ryder

18

Patrick Ryder

Age

37

Ht

197cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

6.5

3star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

2.6

4star

HO

19.3

5star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.0

2star

CL

1.8

4star

HO

21.8

5star

D

4.4

1star

K

3.2

2star

HB

1.2

2star

HO

3.0

5star

- Link
24. James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
38. Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link
42. Max Heath

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

- Link
45. Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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[Moorabbin Ghost]

it's tough to play consistently good footy when you keep getting moved around. has never really had a chance to settle in one position.

See this is the go to argument for Josh Battle. What if he hasn’t been good enough to settle in one position?
Hes too small and way to slow to play KPP.
Anyway, if he gets his wish he won’t be with us next year.

 

[RWB4life]

See this is the go to argument for Josh Battle. What if he hasn’t been good enough to settle in one position?
Hes too small and way to slow to play KPP.
Anyway, if he gets his wish he won’t be with us next year.

Unfortunate to hear but it seems Highmore and Sharman may have gone past him.

What are we expecting in return? Late second early third?

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[Grav]

See this is the go to argument for Josh Battle. What if he hasn’t been good enough to settle in one position?
Hes too small and way to slow to play KPP.
Anyway, if he gets his wish he won’t be with us next year.

He wishes to leave??? But… but…. it’s St Kilda

 

[Yawkey way]

See this is the go to argument for Josh Battle. What if he hasn’t been good enough to settle in one position?
Hes too small and way to slow to play KPP.
Anyway, if he gets his wish he won’t be with us next year.

Which club is he going to or is it anywhere but st Kilda.

 

[Mowman]

See this is the go to argument for Josh Battle. What if he hasn’t been good enough to settle in one position?
Hes too small and way to slow to play KPP.
Anyway, if he gets his wish he won’t be with us next year.

Don’t think he is either to small or to slow and proved that in 2019

 

[CaptainRisky]

Don’t think he is either to small or to slow and proved that in 2019

Yeah , i think he needs to put at CHB and left there , sink or swim Josh
And he is contracted until end of next year , he wont be going unless we get something decent back

 

[CaptainRisky]

See this is the go to argument for Josh Battle. What if he hasn’t been good enough to settle in one position?
Hes too small and way to slow to play KPP.
Anyway, if he gets his wish he won’t be with us next year.

He told you this i take it ?

 

[hangdog]

See this is the go to argument for Josh Battle. What if he hasn’t been good enough to settle in one position?
Hes too small and way to slow to play KPP.
Anyway, if he gets his wish he won’t be with us next year.

He was excellent down back but then we brought in Wilkie, Howard and Highmore.

 

[g_TRAIN]

Battle was great in 2019 but he wasn't the best lockdown player. He had a lot of goals kicked on him from memory but also took a lot of intercept marks and possessions.

 

[CaptainRisky]

I think to spark this place up we need to give Scoops and the Flamer access for a few moths over the draft period , anyone agree ?

 

[HunterClarksHeadband]

I think to spark this place up we need to give Scoops and the Flamer access for a few moths over the draft period , anyone agree ?

Get the pink bird back in here immediately!

 

[CaptainRisky]

Get the pink bird back in here immediately!

 

[GeTrain]

I think to spark this place up we need to give Scoops and the Flamer access for a few moths over the draft period , anyone agree ?

If you're looking for some inside sauces that spice things up and have some hot takes there's always Frank

 

[stfan]

Battle was great in 2019 but he wasn't the best lockdown player. He had a lot of goals kicked on him from memory but also took a lot of intercept marks and possessions.

Not good due to Covid then

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

He told you this i take it ?

No, but his management are talking to other clubs so it’s not a big secret.

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

He was excellent down back but then we brought in Wilkie, Howard and Highmore.

He wasn’t excellent though. To be a key defender you need to be able to defend first and foremost, and for several reasons he can’t do that.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

I think to spark this place up we need to give Scoops and the Flamer access for a few moths…

Perhaps you could open your wallet Risky

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Premium Forwards: King. Membrey.
Second Fiddle forwards : Wood, Battle*, Sharman*, Allison*
Premium Ruck Forwards : Marshall
Second Fiddle Ruck Forwards : Heath*
Forth Fiddle Ruck Forwards : McKernan

* potential to become premium.

 

[Heavensent]

My understanding of the trade already organised for next year are as follows

Ben King for this years first, next years first and Luke Dunstan.

Jack Billings to Hawthorn for start of second round compo.

Josh Battle for a late 2nd round and a fourth to North Melb

Long to Carlton for a 3rd rounder.

Leaves us going to the draft with Pick 21 (Billings) then 2 x 3rd rounders, 3 x fourth rounders to use on Mitchito and Windy and a couple of new SA late pick gems.

Move on!!!

The only one of these I really don’t like the sound of is Battle. Can’t see him being traded at all.

 

[Mangus]

At first glance Luke Parker

26

Luke Parker

Age

33

Ht

183cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.2

5star

K

12.6

5star

HB

11.6

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.8

5star

D

22.1

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

9.9

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

5.0

5star

CL

5.5

5star

D

21.2

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

8.0

5star

CL

5.2

5star

as a free agent would seem to be a no brainer as long as we have the cap space.

But if we did somehow lure Parker then we could expect one of or possibly both Ross and Dunstan would be gone as free agents as they would be pushed out of the midfield rotation and we would need their salary to take on the Parker dollars. On top of this Billings feels like he is already gone. So if we get Parker this would again limit any compensation we are likely to receive for our free agents.

So there would be a hidden cost to taking Parker we would likely lose a couple of best 22 players younger than Parker for nothing. This would make sense if we thought adding Parker would make us a contender next year but if we think the real window is 3 or more years from now we are better taking the draft picks.

Personally I think Parker is a gun but if he does leave he will be looking for an immediate contender not sure he will see the Saints as a viable option.

 

[PoppedCorn]

As opposed to old with heaps of backside [emoji2957]

Wtf is going on in the groin area there
I cant unsee it ffs

See this is the go to argument for Josh Battle. What if he hasn’t been good enough to settle in one position?
Hes too small and way to slow to play KPP.
Anyway, if he gets his wish he won’t be with us next year.

Hasnt been good enough to settle in one position??

 

[Ducky Tie]

I think it's time to start looking internal for the development we need. I've been in favour of our aggressive trading approach the past couple of years, but at a point you need to stop looking for external saviours and put the responsibility with the playing group. We really need players like Clark, Coffield, Gresham (albeit we don't know how he'll be after missing so much time), Byrnes, King, Highmore etc to improve their individual outputs. Of course, they're not all going to become top draw players, but we need a few of them to become elite players. I'm confident that King will be. That would get us to two elite players with Steele and King. That's probably still a couple short of a genuine contending team. Need some individuals to have massive pre-seasons where they take responsibility for the direction of the club and lift their output significantly.

 

[Mr_R0b0t]

See this is the go to argument for Josh Battle. What if he hasn’t been good enough to settle in one position?
Hes too small and way to slow to play KPP.
Anyway, if he gets his wish he won’t be with us next year.
[/QUOTE
Can’t disagree or complain. Another player who‘s reached his ceiling of development, for one reason or another. We have a few players like this. Can’t be top four team carrying mediocre players.

 

[botts]

I think it's time to start looking internal for the development we need. I've been in favour of our aggressive trading approach the past couple of years, but at a point you need to stop looking for external saviours and put the responsibility with the playing group. We really need players like Clark, Coffield, Gresham (albeit we don't know how he'll be after missing so much time), Byrnes, King, Highmore etc to improve their individual outputs. Of course, they're not all going to become top draw players, but we need a few of them to become elite players. I'm confident that King will be. That would get us to two elite players with Steele and King. That's probably still a couple short of a genuine contending team. Need some individuals to have massive pre-seasons where they take responsibility for the direction of the club and lift their output significantly.

Coff can get back his 2020 next year. He was pretty close to elite. Clarke will get better, had a bit of a stutter but he can go to the next level next year. We are gonna be alright

 

[longlivelenny]

The more games I watch of other teams the more I think we need a better kicking option at half back than any of our current crop.
None of our players are able or willing to take a kick off the half back like that opens up the field. Look at what rich does for Brisbane or Hurn or Salem/May.
Break the game open off half back and forward 50 entries always look better.

Also reckon Seb and billings need to go just to get some picks and also get Clark into a full time mid role and gresh takes billings spot.

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