List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part I

[George]

Delisted;
-

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
3. Zak Jones

3

Zak Jones

Age

30

Ht

182cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.8

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.0

5star

CL

1.7

4star

D

19.1

4star

K

10.6

4star

HB

8.6

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.1

4star

CL

4.9

5star

D

7.0

2star

K

2.8

1star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.6

4star

CL

1.0

3star

- Link
6. Sebastian Ross

6

Sebastian Ross

Age

32

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.3

5star

K

13.7

5star

HB

12.6

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

17.5

4star

K

8.9

4star

HB

8.6

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

2.1

4star

D

15.2

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.8

5star

(RFA) - Link
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
15. Jack Billings

14

Jack Billings

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

19.7

5star

K

11.7

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.3

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

4.6

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

(RFA) - Link
18. Patrick Ryder

18

Patrick Ryder

Age

37

Ht

197cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

6.5

3star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

2.6

4star

HO

19.3

5star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.0

2star

CL

1.8

4star

HO

21.8

5star

D

4.4

1star

K

3.2

2star

HB

1.2

2star

HO

3.0

5star

- Link
24. James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
38. Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link
42. Max Heath

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

- Link
45. Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[kernelT]

There's a rumour a senior Port player has asked to be traded to the Gold Coast. People assume it's Dixon.

Probably Tyson Goldsack.

 

[botts]

Billings will go, as how else would "rival list managers" know and say he's being pushed out with a low offer, which would have to be coming from Billings manager right?

If Joe Daniher got a mid first round compo being an injury plagued cripple at Essendon then i am hopeful the saints will get an end of first round compo.

Joe did get offered about 800 a year though

 

[stavro#4]

Two suitors named for discarded Crow; Saints duo tipped to depart: AFL Trade Whispers

Two suitors named for discarded Crow; Saints duo tipped to depart: Trade Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

SAINTS DUO TIPPED TO DEPART

Out-of-contract Saints duo Jack Billings

14

Jack Billings

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

19.7

5star

K

11.7

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.3

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

4.6

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

and Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

are unlikely to be at the club next season, according to senior foxfooty.com.au reporter Tom Morris.

 

[Veer Right]

Joe did get offered about 800 a year though

True, then again we are in covid times with reduced pay and if say a Carlton comes along and offers him 600k, call me optimistic but end of first is where i see it.

Take into account his age, salary history, pick number in his draft year and it's not unreasonable.

 

[BrutThough]

Two suitors named for discarded Crow; Saints duo tipped to depart: AFL Trade Whispers

Two suitors named for discarded Crow; Saints duo tipped to depart: Trade Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

SAINTS DUO TIPPED TO DEPART

Out-of-contract Saints duo Jack Billings and Luke Dunstan are unlikely to be at the club next season, according to senior foxfooty.com.au reporter Tom Morris.

Interesting.

Tom Morris thinks JB will leave but has no idea where too. Cal Twomey and Riley Beveridge said today their mail is he will stay.

 

[PandaG]

I suspect those whisper originated on here by people hoping it happened. Why would Gold Coast agree to that?

Otherwise he was going to leave

 

[Joffaboy]

Interesting.

Tom Morris thinks JB will leave but has no idea where too. Cal Twomey and Riley Beveridge said today their mail is he will stay.

Don't tell me journo's are dart throwing about trades? Surely that never happens.

Out of the two would rather keep Billings. Can cover Dunstan with Bytel.

After R5 if someone said we would get a R3 or even a R2 for Dunstan we would have said ' where do we sign'?

 

[gringo2011]

Two suitors named for discarded Crow; Saints duo tipped to depart: AFL Trade Whispers

Two suitors named for discarded Crow; Saints duo tipped to depart: Trade Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

SAINTS DUO TIPPED TO DEPART

Out-of-contract Saints duo Jack Billings and Luke Dunstan are unlikely to be at the club next season, according to senior foxfooty.com.au reporter Tom Morris.

Hope we have no injuries and kids come on them or we might miss finals again. I guess waiting is a Saints fans lot though.

 

[PandaG]

There's a rumour a senior Port player has asked to be traded to the Gold Coast. People assume it's Dixon.

It’s one of the stronger ones I have seen in the big footy rumour thread.
4-5 say it’s likely

 

[BrutThough]

Don't tell me journo's are dart throwing about trades? Surely that never happens.

Out of the two would rather keep Billings. Can cover Dunstan with Bytel.

After R5 if someone said we would get a R3 or even a R2 for Dunstan we would have said ' where do we sign'?

Based off some of the combos last year, we might even be able to get an end of 2nd for Dunstan if more than 1 club is interested. And thats probably best for both parties and with Gresh back, Clark getting more mid time and Bytel, we dont really have a spot for him long term.

Based off where we are on the ladder now, letting Billings go for what would end up being pick 30 would just be crazy. Not getting anywhere near his value.

 

[BrutThough]

Hope we have no injuries and kids come on them or we might miss finals again. I guess waiting is a Saints fans lot though.

We can afford to let 1 go, but letting both go would be a big step backwards for the list. Surely we are smarter than that.

 

[Premium]

We can afford to let 1 go, but letting both go would be a big step backwards for the list. Surely we are smarter than that.

Totally agree

 

[kernelT]

Port get: Dunstan & McKernan
Gold Coast get: Dixon & Goldsack
Saints get: King & Rowell

Job done.

 

[gringo2011]

We can afford to let 1 go, but letting both go would be a big step backwards for the list. Surely we are smarter than that.

I'd rather keep both unless they hold us ransom and get overs for them. I reckon Dunstan will embarrass us if we lose him for a third rounder. If Carlton get him and jump us my head will explode.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Interesting.

Tom Morris thinks JB will leave but has no idea where too. Cal Twomey and Riley Beveridge said today their mail is he will stay.

What’s the quality of their mail? [emoji848]

 

[StCicatriz]

Sam Taylor is one player on their list I'd be targeting.

he and naughton made the best FB and CHB combo I've ever seen at U18

 

[StCicatriz]

Two suitors named for discarded Crow; Saints duo tipped to depart: AFL Trade Whispers

Two suitors named for discarded Crow; Saints duo tipped to depart: Trade Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

SAINTS DUO TIPPED TO DEPART

Out-of-contract Saints duo Jack Billings and Luke Dunstan are unlikely to be at the club next season, according to senior foxfooty.com.au reporter Tom Morris.

this is awesome news!!!!

 

[BrutThough]

I'd rather keep both unless they hold us ransom and get overs for them. I reckon Dunstan will embarrass us if we lose him for a third rounder. If Carlton get him and jump us my head will explode.

I just want to see Dunstan have a long career, and I think his best bet to do that is at another club. If he plays like he has in the 2nd half of this season at another club, I will be so happy for him. Once we get Gresh back, is there a spot for Dunstan long term? Especially if we want to play Clark and Bytel and whoever else we draft. If he played like this last year, it would have been really interesting whether we still brought in Crouch.

Whereas with Billings, he brings a lot of qualities we don't have in other players and his standard level (not his playing injured level from the 2nd half of this season) is significantly better the compo pick we would get back. Letting someone who reportedly wants to stay leave because we would only offer under their value would just be terrible list management. We dont have enough players with proven quality to just let one leave for an average pick.

 

[gringo2011]

I just want to see Dunstan have a long career, and I think his best bet to do that is at another club. If he plays like he has in the 2nd half of this season at another club, I will be so happy for him. Once we get Gresh back, is there a spot for Dunstan long term? Especially if we want to play Clark and Bytel and whoever else we draft. If he played like this last year, it would have been really interesting whether we still brought in Crouch.

Whereas with Billings, he brings a lot of qualities we don't have in other players and his standard level (not his playing injured level from the 2nd half of this season) is significantly better the compo pick we would get back. Letting someone who reportedly wants to stay leave because we would only offer under their value would just be terrible list management. We dont have enough players with proven quality to just let one leave for an average pick.

I reckon Gresh is still speculative at the moment. He's almost at Hanners level of certainty. Dunstan is a guaranteed inside mid. I'd be signing him up unless it's crazy money. Before he came in we were a very ordinary midfield.

 

[BrutThough]

I reckon Gresh is still speculative at the moment. He's almost at Hanners level of certainty. Dunstan is a guaranteed inside mid. I'd be signing him up unless it's crazy money. Before he came in we were a very ordinary midfield.

Why is Gresh speculative?

 

[Ducky Tie]

I reckon Gresh is still speculative at the moment. He's almost at Hanners level of certainty. Dunstan is a guaranteed inside mid. I'd be signing him up unless it's crazy money. Before he came in we were a very ordinary midfield.

Gresham is no guarantee to be the player we want and his injuries are concerning but it's not to the same extent as Hannebery. Hannebery's muscles - primarily calves and hamstrings - have shown to be consistently incapable of handling the rigours of AFL. Gresham is more long term random injuries, particularly the knee and the achilles.

 

[gringo2011]

Why is Gresh speculative?

Missed most of 2 years, coming off an Achilles injury so will be slow to regain confidence let alone explosiveness etc. In 2020 6 of his 11 games were under 20 possessions. He's still a developing player but has a way to get back to his best straight away. He's unlikely to walk into a midfield spot and put up big performances from round one.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Because it just doesn't happen
Have you seen this reported anywhere but here because if it was true it would be out
Its like the stories of Kelly buying a house in Sandy

He certainly got ambassador money from the AFL as a bribe to keep him at the Suns. That is fact.

It is not unrealistic or outside the realms of possibility that a kid who wanted to come home would put a clause into his next contract as a condition of staying to ensure the loss of talent never happened with Lukoscious ( spelling?) also rumoured to leave.

I never said it was true, I just said that it is an assumption that could be reasonably made.

 

[Diehard Saint]

To be fair, Kelly did buy a house in Sandy...he also apparently owns 2 more in Melbourne and 2 in sydney.

The big property rumour at the moment is that an unnamed player from up north has recently purchased a house in bentleigh East for $1.65m.

Now the question is, do you purchase something like that to live in or invest in?

One with an extra en suite bedroom for his brother, perchance?

 

[BrutThough]

Missed most of 2 years, coming off an Achilles injury so will be slow to regain confidence let alone explosiveness etc. In 2020 6 of his 11 games were under 20 possessions. He's still a developing player but has a way to get back to his best straight away. He's unlikely to walk into a midfield spot and put up big performances from round one.

His 2020 injury is irrelevant now. He returned from it completely fine and played some very good football.

It will likely take him some time to regain his best form but plenty of players have recovered from Achilles recently and returned to their best. We shouldn't re-sign Dunstan because it might take Gresh some time to get back to his very best. He should only sign with us if we think he will be a long term piece of the midfield.