List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

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Continued in Part III

List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[stavro#4]

That is what it says , they never offered him a contract - so he is de-listed which means we get nothing for him - strange if its true.

He isn’t delisted until we lodge our list movements. Of which the final list lodgement is post trade period.

so it makes no sense to delist him prior.

 

[Joffaboy]

Wait, so we have delisted him and cost ourselves a compo pick we would have got from his unrestricted free agency status?

We are dumb but surely to god not that dumb.....unless we already have a FA wrapt up

 

[Klaatu]

It reads as his opinion which is surely ******* wrong.

I would say Dunstan got no bites or a contract elsewhere and the Saints knew it, that leaves Dunstan options to train elsewhere during pre season.

 

[botts]

Wait, so we have delisted him and cost ourselves a compo pick we would have got from his unrestricted free agency status?

Well that seems ****ing stupid

 

[CaptainRisky]

Geez this has gone pear shaped quick , so do we get nothing for him now ?

 

[stavro#4]

We are dumb but surely to god not that dumb.....unless we already have a FA wrapt up

Or

 

[Joffaboy]

I would say Dunstan got no bites or a contract elsewhere and the Saints knew it, that leaves Dunstan options to train elsewhere during pre season.

Has two offers in front of him as of last week

 

[gringo2011]

Because doing what you have said is effectively going to cost us

Ross Dunstan and Battle for Parker and 2 NGA kids that we will get without moving on Battle to accomodate.

signing Parker also takes out right out of the equation of next years free agents and there is a few at the pies I’d be keen on. Wouldn’t mind Miller at the Suns either.

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Miller would be obscenely good. He'd be a superstar in Melbourne.

 

[Yawkey way]

Callaghan is apparently going in the top 5. That’s a massive jump from where we are now and assets to burn to draft him.

Yes it is but he’s what we need imo so I’d be asking.

 

[The_Snake26]

Surely they can’t be right? If so we’ve f**ked that up

 

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

Not really sure of your point nor was I being defensive.

whether a player turns 30 in round 1 or on Christmas. He will still be 30 in his first year of a significant deal.

we aren’t seeing his best years. We are seeing what is most likely the Start of the decline at that point.

by all means, if we hypothetically sign Parker tell yourself we signed a 28 year old. If he doesn’t perform next year, tell yourself he is a 29 year old and has few more good years left. However the media will make sure to rub our noses in how we signed another over the hill swan on significant money who will be 30 in his first year at stkilda.

jesus

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Wait, so we have delisted him and cost ourselves a compo pick we would have got from his unrestricted free agency status?

He won’t be delisted by the trade date though. Still get compo

 

[stavro#4]

He won’t be delisted by the trade date though. Still get compo

That’s what we all think will/ should happen.
Sam McClure is saying we are delisting him

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Surely they can’t be right? If so we’ve f**ked that up

Don’t stress. He’s not delisted

 

[stavro#4]

Yes it is but he’s what we need imo so I’d be asking.

Mate I’d be hoping Sonsies rumoured fall is just that little bit further and we snap him up.

 

[stavro#4]

Don’t stress. He’s not delisted

Just playing devils advocate.

if we told him he isn’t getting a new deal and that we delist him. He doesn’t need to sign with a club during free agency. Thus meaning he can be picked up as a delisted player ala McKernan last year for us.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Because doing what you have said is effectively going to cost us

Ross Dunstan and Battle for Parker and 2 NGA kids that we will get without moving on Battle to accomodate.

signing Parker also takes out right out of the equation of next years free agents and there is a few at the pies I’d be keen on. Wouldn’t mind Miller at the Suns either.

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Fair call. We may be able to get Mitchito & Windy without moving Battle on though (I didn't make that clear in my post).

How much short do you think the combined salaries of Dunstan & Ross are of the 700 large that Parker is reported to be after?

 

[stavro#4]

Fair call. We may be able to get Mitchito & Windy without moving Battle on though (I didn't make that clear in my post).

How much short do you think the combined salaries of Dunstan & Ross are of the 700 large that Parker is reported to be after?

I don’t think it’s short. I think it’s 150-300k over.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Just playing devils advocate.

if we told him he isn’t getting a new deal and that we delist him. He doesn’t need to sign with a club during free agency. Thus meaning he can be picked up as a delisted player ala McKernan last year for us.

Fair enough. Let’s hope not

 

[St Neil]

That is what it says , they never offered him a contract - so he is de-listed which means we get nothing for him - strange if its true.

Either we believe Luke will accept any offer we put to him, or we have another free agent lined up that we know will cancel any compensation we receive for Luke.

I can’t think of another reason why we would allow him to become a delisted free agent.

 

[Yawkey way]

Mate I’d be hoping Sonsies rumoured fall is just that little bit further and we snap him up.

Plenty of talent but I want that bigger mid, start him on the wing looks a ripper.

 

[EconomicDecline]

If Parker is being pushed out because of the length and value of the contract he’s seeking, why exactly would he come to us? He’s already ticked winning a premiership. North would have a bucket load of cash to splash.

 

[stavro#4]

Either we believe Luke will accept any offer we put to him, or we have another free agent lined up that we know will cancel any compensation we receive for Luke.

I can’t think of another reason why we would allow him to become a delisted free agent.

But that now means if Ross leaves it cancels out his compo.

so from 2 potential compos. We now get 0.

the only way this makes sense is that we bring in2 free agents ourselves

 

[Max the great]

I wouldn't say no to Parker on the right deal.

After reading ScrappyDo's post yesterday though ... the whole extra mid solution might be right under our noses. With Paton coming back and Webster playing well, we could move Sincs there. He might tear it up given his much improved form.

We've tried Sincs as a mid. He's way more effective in the role he is playing now. Why would we change it back?

 

[Max the great]

Roughly what money are Ross and Dunstan on atm?

However much it is it's too much