List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

[George]

Continued in Part III

List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

We are onto Part 3.

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

28

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

37

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[Parkysp]

BrutThough said:
"draft and list expert Matt Rendell"

Doesn't take much to be labeled an expert these days.

it used to be Terry wallis as the expert.

Blokes that have each played a couple of hundred games and coached and then went and watched more games of junior footy than any BF poster could dream of in 2 life times. I am happy with them to be called expert based on all that experience.
In an extremely subjective field I wouldn't know how to judge otherwise.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Can confirm.

also RIX RUCK ROX

 

[Bill Mohr]

maybe the police if they find Cousins laying on a park bench late at night.

Wrong Cousins..

 

[Bill Mohr]

BrutThough said:
"draft and list expert Matt Rendell"

Doesn't take much to be labeled an expert these days.


Blokes that have each played a couple of hundred games and coached and then went and watched more games of junior footy than any BF poster could dream of in 2 life times. I am happy with them to be called expert based on all that experience.
In an extremely subjective field I wouldn't know how to judge otherwise.

Correct, Rendell knows what he is talking about.

 

[Mowman]

Correct, Rendell knows what he is talking about.

No he doesn't
He is clueless

 

[TheEnsign]

No he doesn't
He is clueless

Yeah he thinks we discovered Wilkie this year.

 

[Bill Mohr]

No he doesn't
He is clueless

Thats a massive call.

 

[Mowman]

Thats a massive call.

Listened to him talk about the mid season draft this year, OMG he had no idea it was laughable

 

[Diehard Saint]

He got it right though..

He said Hanners will be gone…

 

[Bill Mohr]

He said Hanners will be gone…

We have all got opinions. No one here seems to like any of the "experts" opinions unless it suits their own narrative. Buckenaras piece in The Sun should be coming up shortly and we will see what he has to say about us because he is doing every club. If he is clueless as well, who's opinion are we going to listen to? It's obvious that these blokes who do it for a job have no idea !!!!!

 

[Parkysp]

He said Hanners will be gone…

We're all praying for a miracle on Hanners but if you reckon he's wrong on that then spare me

 

[Bill Mohr]

He said Hanners will be gone…

He was right about Ned Guy at Collingwood

 

[Bill Mohr]

We're all praying for a miracle on Hanners but if you reckon he's wrong on that then spare me

I didnt say he was wrong but it would be strange if Hannebery did not play next year at Senior level.

 

[Diehard Saint]

We have all got opinions. No one here seems to like any of the "experts" opinions unless it suits their own narrative. Buckenaras piece in The Sun should be coming up shortly and we will see what he has to say about us because he is doing every club. If he is clueless as well, who's opinion are we going to listen to? It's obvious that these blokes who do it for a job have no idea !!!!!

Why, ours on BF of course!

Don't mind Rendell, got a lot right. Just stated about Hanners like it was a done deal, didn’t sound like an opinion.

I don’t believe Buckenara has done a lot of homework on our list in previous articles. A lot of these experts have said how old our list is - technically it’s not young, but surely you focus on the ages of the top 28 or so? There’s a fair amount of lazy journalism I find.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Listened to him talk about the mid season draft this year, OMG he had no idea it was laughable

Rendall & Buckenara are rent-a-quotes who add nothing at trade/draft time.

Its a dead set giveaway when a bloke doesn’t understand it the basics of free agency to the point where he suggests we trade out free agents.

The next piece of research that Buckenara does will be his first.


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[Diehard Saint]

We're all praying for a miracle on Hanners but if you reckon he's wrong on that then spare me

I didn’t read it as gone in a playing sense - I read it as actually gone, considering he mentioned him together with Carlisle. Thought we heard he’s taken a pay cut. So now he’s saying he’s taken a contract cut as well? In other words bye, bye Hanners?

 

[Bill Mohr]

Why, ours on BF of course!

Don't mind Rendell, got a lot right. Just stated about Hanners like it was a done deal, didn’t sound like an opinion.

I don’t believe Buckenara has done a lot of homework on our list in previous articles. A lot of these experts have said how old our list is - technically it’s not young, but surely you focus on the ages of the top 28 or so? There’s a fair amount of lazy journalism I find.

Probably right. Some of them do not check all of the facts. We have even had the wrong player in a photograph more than once. Maybe it is up to the club Promotions manager to tackle these guys if they make glaring errors

 

[Flandersss]

Here is the real Satan triggering bro

 

[Bill Mohr]

I didn’t read it as gone in a playing sense - I read it as actually gone, considering he mentioned him together with Carlisle. Thought we heard he’s taken a pay cut. So now he’s saying he’s taken a contract cut as well? In other words bye, bye Hanners?

I read it as gone in a playing sense.

 

[Diehard Saint]

I read it as gone in a playing sense.

Well that’s a real possibility. But he mentioned him in the same sentence as Carlisle, so I took it the other way.

 

[hayes]

Just a friendly reminder that Ross was one of our best players in a cutthroat final against Richmond last year. Had identical stats to Steele. Not sure why we should lose him just for the sake of it. I wouldn’t be disappointed if he stayed but I know I’m probably the only one.

 

[Significant]

Rendell and Buckanera are both frauds.

Their assessments are sometimes spot on but they lack a sophisticated understanding or how draft and trade mechanisms work, and won't have the in depth understanding of teams list (outside of Collingwood and Hawthorn respectively) in comparison to painted on fans like ourselves.

I pay absolutely no credence to either.

 

[St Kilda Death]

Rendell and Buckanera are both frauds.

Their assessments are sometimes spot on but they lack a sophisticated understanding or how draft and trade mechanisms work, and won't have the in depth understanding of teams list (outside of Collingwood and Hawthorn respectively) in comparison to painted on fans like ourselves.

I pay absolutely no credence to either.

Add David king to the list

 

[L_W_P]

I lost all interest in Buckanarra the year he said our trade/draft was a fail because we gave up pick 6 for Carlisle and 18 because we could have drafted Kieran Collins

Kieran Collins

Age

27

Ht

194cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

4.0

1star

K

4.0

2star

HB

0.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.0

3star

MG

116.0

2star

No current season stats available

D

4.0

1star

K

4.0

2star

HB

0.0

1star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

MG

116.0

2star

.

Said Collins was the 3rd best player in the draft.

Collins was drafted at pick 26 by the Western Bulldogs. He was the 11th KPP taken in the draft. He played 1 game in 3 years before being delisted.

#expert

 

[gringo2011]

It only says most likely. Many highly thought of draftees dont go first round.

I doubt either go before 30.