List Mgmt. 2021 Young Talent Time

[Fyfster]

Im still in the Jye Amiss and Mac Andrew train if they are there!! Fix our forward line!!

I sincerely hope this is not the way we go.

 

[Swiggy]

I’ve got 2 ways they go about it and I’m not bothered either way.
6. Erasmus
8. Wanganeen-milera
19. Williams
Or
6. Amiss
8. Wanganeen-milera
19. Best available.

just think wanganeen-milera is best fit for freo as he is hill’s replacement

 

[Polo342]

I sincerely hope this is not the way we go.

Why not haha? Who would you have us take

 

[ChimpaWompa]

finding it hard to get excited about this draft with the lack of content for so many of the draftees, 2017 was the last really fun draft imo

 

[more_of_bito]

I feel like the Cats and Tigers would have invested heavily in zoom calls and meetings, and are well placed with their local Vic knowledge. Their picks between 20-35 this year could all be quality Victorian gems and would not be surprised if there’s quite a few that become A grade players.

Only benefit for Freo is we hold pick 19 which I’m sure will be a very good talent if we deal with the Cats/ Tigers for their 2nd rounders so must draft quality WA kids to remove risk here.

 

[DragoDelph]

I feel like the Cats and Tigers would have invested heavily in zoom calls and meetings, and are well placed with their local Vic knowledge. Their picks between 20-35 this year could all be quality Victorian gems and would not be surprised if there’s quite a few that become A grade players.

Only benefit for Freo is we hold pick 19 which I’m sure will be a very good talent if we deal with the Cats/ Tigers for their 2nd rounders so must draft quality WA kids to remove risk here.

We also have Walls' storage locker.

 

[Dockernut]

I just want to throw Ben Hobbs into the conversation.



Bit of a beast - would be handy in our annual drubbings by bigger bodied midfields.

 

[Dayts]

I just want to throw Ben Hobbs into the conversation.



Bit of a beast - would be handy in our annual drubbings by bigger bodied midfields.

I’ll see your Hobbs and Raise you VanRooyen

Jacob van Rooyen

afl.draftcentral.com.au

 

[Dockeroo]

I just want to throw Ben Hobbs into the conversation.



Bit of a beast - would be handy in our annual drubbings by bigger bodied midfields.

Just like Caleb Serong isn’t he.
nothing wrong that that.
looks like a tackling machine too and high tackle counts win flags

 

[big freo]

I just want to throw Ben Hobbs into the conversation.



Bit of a beast - would be handy in our annual drubbings by bigger bodied midfields.

Yes! We need to grow our mosquito fleet

 

[Superkoops]

I feel like the Cats and Tigers would have invested heavily in zoom calls and meetings, and are well placed with their local Vic knowledge. Their picks between 20-35 this year could all be quality Victorian gems and would not be surprised if there’s quite a few that become A grade players.

Only benefit for Freo is we hold pick 19 which I’m sure will be a very good talent if we deal with the Cats/ Tigers for their 2nd rounders so must draft quality WA kids to remove risk here.

Doubt the Cats will be interested in an upgrade they have pick 22 only 3 spots below us and likely to be happy to wait a couple selections.

Richmond a big show for an upgrade. They have picks 26,27,28 and two F2’s.

Sydney with pick 31 and two F1’s (ie willing to trade out their F2).

19 (21) > 28 (30) and F2
19 (21) > 31 (33) and F2

We still have access to a good draftee like Williams, Bazzo, Sheldrick, Hough or a Vic slider and a desperately needed second round pick for 2022.

I would take anything less. I would accept higher (ie a future first and a later pick maybe) but otherwise we use the selection ourselves.

 

[Redgum]

JLo is looking for more speed and Clark has added some of that, with a later pick( maybe trading an early pick for second round picks)we could look at
Corey Warner, the guy is seriously quick and talented athletically, looking at his combine results. He is a ball magnet as well.

 

[Moo]

I think we keep 19 and use it ....JVR or Williams.

Take Amiss plus whoever is there to add to our midfield in Erasmus or Johnson ....or add elite kick & mover in Wanganeen-Milera.

I'd be stoked with Amiss, NWM/Johnson & JVR/Williams...throw in Benning and that is a good bloody draft.

 

[Bring back Drum]

I’ve got 2 ways they go about it and I’m not bothered either way.
6. Erasmus
8. Wanganeen-milera
19. Williams
Or
6. Amiss
8. Wanganeen-milera
19. Best available.

just think wanganeen-milera is best fit for freo as he is hill’s replacement

I think Clark portrays as the Hill replacement.

 

[Moo]

I think Clark portrays as the Hill replacement.

I'd rather Clark off a HBF to be honest....having NWM delivering that ball into the forward line would be belissimo

 

[ignoramus]

If anyone needs any proof that I've got no clue how to assess draft talent (yes, I'm sure you've all be wondering), it's in this vid, courtesy of wayToGo_ :

I think this guy is a good alternative to check out as an alternative to NWM (although he might not last to the rookie list):

I look at this and wonder how on earth he's not spoken about more frequently. Speed; agility; amazing one-hand pick-ups and grabs; quick, smart decision-making; and decent skills... About the only thing he doesn't seem to have is a left foot (and I'm sure another 5-10 cm wouldn't go astray).

At 20, he's obviously been assessed and dismissed in earlier years, but I wonder about the Tim Kelly potential. If any of our resident draft-watchers (Ysaye ? Chris25 ?) could shed some light, I'd be very grateful.

 

[freo_leo29]

If JVR is gone by 19 then I'd take Tigers 26 +28 or 26+ F2 for it

Then get Hough

 

[Purple Jesus]

He's a great kick but NWM does seem to take a while to pull the trigger, a bit like Young has done. I worry he won't be able to translate those skills at AFL level. He has half a century in some of those highlights.

 

[Swiggy]

I think Clark portrays as the Hill replacement.

Sounds like they will play young off half back

 

[theGav56]

I feel like the Cats and Tigers would have invested heavily in zoom calls and meetings, and are well placed with their local Vic knowledge. Their picks between 20-35 this year could all be quality Victorian gems and would not be surprised if there’s quite a few that become A grade players.

Only benefit for Freo is we hold pick 19 which I’m sure will be a very good talent if we deal with the Cats/ Tigers for their 2nd rounders so must draft quality WA kids to remove risk here.

Zoom calls and local knowledge didn't turn up Treacy for them last year.

 

[Moo]

Zoom calls and local knowledge didn't turn up Treacy for them last year.

To be fair Treacy ate his webcam and headset during the interview

 

[Fyfster]

Why not haha? Who would you have us take

Not a ruckman when we already have the best young ruckman in the comp. And not an undersized key forward . Name me one leading goal kicker in the WAFL colts who has gone on to be a good AFL forward?
Maybe Medhurst? Did he lead the colts goal kicking?

 

[blue shark]

Not a ruckman when we already have the best young ruckman in the comp. And not an undersized key forward . Name me one leading goal kicker in the WAFL colts who has gone on to be a good AFL forward?
Maybe Medhurst? Did he lead the colts goal kicking?

Most of the very good forwards just went straight to seniors.
But they had the U18 championships to highlight their ability.
McDonald is the last to go from colts. But he had the chance due to playing beforehand at U18’s as a 17 year old.
The good ones at least debut at wafl.
Interesting that JVR, I think Polson and Hough did for Peel?
Not many though are like Jakovich, then you have guys like Sumich, Kennedy, Darling, OE.
Most just showed glimpses, but we’re too good for colts.

 

[Tonga Bob]

Not a ruckman when we already have the best young ruckman in the comp. And not an undersized key forward . Name me one leading goal kicker in the WAFL colts who has gone on to be a good AFL forward?
Maybe Medhurst? Did he lead the colts goal kicking?

Here's a list of who led the colts goalkicking based off stats from the WAFL site:

Year	Player	Club	Goals	Behinds
2011	Mason Shaw	South Freo	66	32
2012	Alex Howson	East Freo	58	27
2013	Rhys McAlister	Subiaco	58	21
2014	Cameron Loersch	South Freo	57	28
2015	Brett Milward	Peel Thunder	58	26
2016	Shai Bolton	South Freo	37	23
2017	Dillon O'Reilly	East Freo	46	19
2018	Jack Mayo	Subiaco	50	44
2019	Ben Middleton	Peel Thunder	30	21
=2020	Sandon Page	Subiaco	24	7
=2020	Corey Rundle	West Perth	24	18
2021	Jye Amiss	East Perth	51	15

 

[wayToGo_]

Name me one leading goal kicker in the WAFL colts who has gone on to be a good AFL forward?

Shai Bolton in 2016. Jake Waterman was 3rd that year (he was 5th in his bottom age year).

It's generally hard though because in most years they don't play many Colts games due to other commitments like the National champs. Or they get promoted to League/Reserves games. Both of these things happened less the past two years due to Covid.

I still think JVR is the best key forward in the pool but Amiss is quality also. I keep coming back to wanting both thinking that if Hawthorn can win 3 premierships in a row with both Roughhead and Gunston key to those only a few years ago then why can't we have both JVR and Amiss on our list?