Play Nice 2022 AFL/AFLW Crowds/TV Ratings/Stream thread

[Rouel_14]

A good problem to have for 9th V 10th when we have been complaining about crowds all year.

Marvel with 40k can be pumping.




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[MattF185]

Really strange how it’s not at the G. Disappointed because it could’ve reached 50k as the Collingwood army have turned up in full force.

 

[Raz Man]

Hawthorn v Richmond should be 55,000 tomorrow. Thoughts?


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[The_Wookie]

				MCC Prediction
Date	Home	Away	Crowd	MCC Members	AFL Members	Actual Crowd	Variance
18/4	Hawthorn	Geelong	58,900	13,300	9,400	48030	-22.63%
27/3	Richmond	GWS	39,800	6,500	7,400	28813	-38.13%
2/4	Collingwood	Geelong	57,600	12,500	11,200	52974	-8.73%
3/4	Carlton	Hawthorn	55,200	14,000	8,600	66317	16.76%
9/4	Richmond	Western Bulldogs	49,100	9,000	8,400	43645	-12.50%
17/4	Carlton	Port Adelaide	36,200	7,400	6,700	34333	-5.44%
24/4	Richmond	Melbourne	58,600	16,700	10,000	70,334	16.68%
25/4	Essendon	Collingwood	82,600	19,800	19,400	84,205	1.91%
7/5	Richmond	Collingwood	71,100	14,300	14,500	64,481	-10.27%
8/5	Melbourne	St Kilda	41,900	14,100	6,200	35,767	-17.15%
			551,000			528899	-4.18%

 

[magic_johnson!]

It does look pretty full watching from tv beside the MARVEL lettering - even medallion club.

May be an unpopular opinion, but I think 45,000 at marvel feels more of an event than 55,000 at the mcg

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

44,029 tonight.

 

[manicmagpie]

44,029 tonight.

Without looking it up that would be one of the biggest crowds we’ve had here for years. I’m pretty sure we haven’t hit 45k since 2010 or 2011.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

Without looking it up that would be one of the biggest crowds we’ve had here for years. I’m pretty sure we haven’t hit 45k since 2010 or 2011.

Biggest Marvel crowd for a Collingwood game since 2012.

 

[AstuteTiger]

Without looking it up that would be one of the biggest crowds we’ve had here for years. I’m pretty sure we haven’t hit 45k since 2010 or 2011.

Misread your post at first glance, you mean for a pies home game at marvel or either home or away game?

 

[BallaratBulldog]

Really strange how it’s not at the G. Disappointed because it could’ve reached 50k as the Collingwood army have turned up in full force.

Some interstate teams play more MCG games than us, so would also like this to stop happening (even though technically bit of playing advantage)

 

[manicmagpie]

Misread your post at first glance, you mean for a pies home game at marvel or either home or away game?

Either.

 

[parano1a]

Really strange how it’s not at the G. Disappointed because it could’ve reached 50k as the Collingwood army have turned up in full force.

Collingwood are contractually required to play 2 home games every year at Marvel. As a trade off we get 5 guaranteed away games at the MCG in addition to our 9 home games.

 

[Raz Man]

44,029 tonight.

Insane effort. Just goes to show the pies supporters really are the most consistent. No matter what, they will always turn up. This is the biggest crowd at Marval for a very long time too.


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[Romeoh1]

Insane effort. Just goes to show the pies supporters really are the most consistent. No matter what, they will always turn up. This is the biggest crowd at Marval for a very long time too.


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Agree- pies fans always show up. Staunch.

 

[MattF185]

Collingwood are contractually required to play 2 home games every year at Marvel. As a trade off we get 5 guaranteed away games at the MCG in addition to our 9 home games.

Yeah, but a home match against the runner up from the previous season is not great fixturing. Playing North Melbourne would’ve made more sense at Marvel for 2022.

 

[dave10]

Without looking it up that would be one of the biggest crowds we’ve had here for years. I’m pretty sure we haven’t hit 45k since 2010 or 2011.

Essendon have had several since 2010. Can’t list them but they’ve had countless ‘sell out’ crowds in the low/mid 40,000’s range.

 

[manicmagpie]

Essendon have had several since 2010. Can’t list them but they’ve had countless ‘sell out’ crowds in the low/mid 40,000’s range.

In my post: We = Collingwood

 

[dave10]

Insane effort. Just goes to show the pies supporters really are the most consistent. No matter what, they will always turn up. This is the biggest crowd at Marval for a very long time too.


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We’ve got short memories Pre covid pandemic crowds regularly in this range. This is since 2017 alone. There may well have been several others involving Carlton or Hawthirn too.

2019 > 42,000

Essendon V St Kilda - 44,252
North V Essendon - 48,277
Essendon V Hawthorn - 44,846
Essendon V North - 45,682
Essendon V Power - 42,940

2018 > 42,000
Essendon V Adelaide - 43,016
Essendon V North - 45,580
Essendon V Sydney - 42,251

2017 > 42,000
Essendon V Melbourne - 44,040
St Kilda V Essendon - 47,156
Bulldogs V Essendon - 48,754
Essendon V Fremantle - 42,665

 

[manicmagpie]

Further context to last night's crowd and the complete drop off in attitude towards Docklands from Collingwood fans.

It was Collingwood's largest crowd at the venue for 10 years. However in the 12 years prior to that (2000-12) there were 32 bigger Collingwood crowds at Docklands, and only 15 lower crowds against Vic opposition.

 

[Kwality]

Some interstate teams play more MCG games than us, so would also like this to stop happening (even though technically bit of playing advantage)

How many games is that?

 

[BallaratBulldog]

How many games is that?

1-2 a year.

This year Demons and Richmond. Hawks at Tassie and Pies home at Marvel.

 

[manicmagpie]

I probably post this every year, but making all Collingwood home games be played at the MCG would be better for the whole competition, not just the Pies.

Currently, our fixture may as well be set in stone.

Every year since GWS joined we have:

• 14 games at the G (contracted)
• 2 home games at Docklands (AFL mandate)
• at least 5 away games to non-Vic clubs (every non-Pies fans’ heads explode if less)

This leaves just one remaining game, which in theory could be anything but in practice has always been set as an away game at Docklands.

This has the effect of locking in particular match ups and excluding others. We virtually have to have away games against Melbourne, Hawthorn, Richmond, Carlton and Essendon every year to fulfill the MCG deal.

We can also only play 1 away game against North Melbourne, St Kilda or the Bulldogs each year, meaning those clubs only get 1 each every three years. Geelong haven’t had a home game against us since 2017, and there‘s no room to give them one unless it’s at the G, which they don’t want.

The insane thing is that in the last 7 seasons, North Melbourne have missed out on a home game against Collingwood the same number of times as Melbourne has in their entire history.

Putting all 11 Collingwood home games MCG makes this so much fairer. In this scenario, only 3 away games at the G are required, which is the amount we‘d get in a random draw anyway.

Keeping the appropriate 5 games away to non-Vic clubs would leave 3 other away games to Vic teams. This could mean more home games against us for the Docklands tenants, it would also mean Geelong could play us at Kardinia Park, or Hawthorn/North to play us in Tasmania (if they want).

The only possible losers from this would be the other MCG tenants, who may have to forego a home game against us every second or third year. Let’s all take a moment to consider their incredible sacrifice.

 

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[dave10]

I probably post this every year, but making all Collingwood home games be played at the MCG would be better for the whole competition, not just the Pies.

Currently, our fixture may as well be set in stone.

Every year since GWS joined we have:

• 14 games at the G (contracted)
• 2 home games at Docklands (AFL mandate)
• at least 5 away games to non-Vic clubs (every non-Pies fans’ heads explode if less)

This leaves just one remaining game, which in theory could be anything but in practice has always been set as an away game at Docklands.

This has the effect of locking in particular match ups and excluding others. We virtually have to have away games against Melbourne, Hawthorn, Richmond, Carlton and Essendon every year to fulfill the MCG deal.

We can also only play 1 away game against North Melbourne, St Kilda or the Bulldogs each year, meaning those clubs only get 1 each every three years. Geelong haven’t had a home game against us since 2017, and there‘s no room to give them one unless it’s at the G, which they don’t want.

The insane thing is that in the last 7 seasons, North Melbourne have missed out on a home game against Collingwood the same number of times as Melbourne has in their entire history.

Putting all 11 Collingwood home games MCG makes this so much fairer. In this scenario, only 3 away games at the G are required, which is the amount we‘d get in a random draw anyway.

Keeping the appropriate 5 games away to non-Vic clubs would leave 3 other away games to Vic teams. This could mean more home games against us for the Docklands tenants, it would also mean Geelong could play us at Kardinia Park, or Hawthorn/North to play us in Tasmania (if they want).

The only possible losers from this would be the other MCG tenants, who may have to forego a home game against us every second or third year. Let’s all take a moment to consider their incredible sacrifice.

Whilst I get this and there’s lots of good arguments, the one thing not considered is Collingwood’s ‘role’ in supporting the success of the AFL’s $600M asset, Marvel Stadium.

There’s several clubs, Collingwood included that are playing their part in ensuring the venue is optimised via the Blockbuster quota the Stadium is contracted with the AFL to receive.

Further, things will become more complex. I’m the next two years both Carlton and Essendon will be lobbying to update their stadium agreements with the AFL. Essendon for its part wants another 1-2 more home games per year at the MCG which is what it’s supporter base will hold the club accountable to secure.

It’s complex and there’s lots of competing interests across the league and it’s clubs. What we can all agree on is the importance Marvel Stadiums role was in securing the game during covid and the need to ensure the leagues asset is supported ongoing broadly.

How this principle plays itself out over the next decade will not only be fascinating, it will I’m sure be competitively contest key by the interested parties.

 

[Kwality]

Whilst I get this and there’s lots of good arguments, the one thing not considered is Collingwood’s ‘role’ in supporting the success of the AFL’s $600M asset, Marvel Stadium.

There’s several clubs, Collingwood included that are playing their part in ensuring the venue is optimised via the Blockbuster quota the Stadium is contracted with the AFL to receive.

Further, things will become more complex. I’m the next two years both Carlton and Essendon will be lobbying to update their stadium agreements with the AFL. Essendon for its part wants another 1-2 more home games per year at the MCG which is what it’s supporter base will hold the club accountable to secure.

It’s complex and there’s lots of competing interests across the league and it’s clubs. What we can all agree on is the importance Marvel Stadiums role was in securing the game during covid and the need to ensure the leagues asset is supported ongoing broadly.

How this principle plays itself out over the next decade will not only be fascinating, it will I’m sure be competitively contest key by the interested parties.

FIXturing the G is complicated by the GF being located there, not by merit.
The stadium agreements (home games/blockbusters) the clubs seek to overlay on the FIX cant be allowed to further compromise the venue.