Play Nice 2022 AFL/AFLW Crowds/TV Ratings/Stream thread

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Raz Man

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Hawthorn v Richmond should be 55,000 tomorrow. Thoughts?


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The_Wookie

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DateHomeAwayCrowdMCC MembersAFL MembersActual CrowdVariance
18/4HawthornGeelong58,90013,3009,40048030-22.63%
27/3RichmondGWS39,8006,5007,40028813-38.13%
2/4CollingwoodGeelong57,60012,50011,20052974-8.73%
3/4CarltonHawthorn55,20014,0008,6006631716.76%
9/4RichmondWestern Bulldogs49,1009,0008,40043645-12.50%
17/4CarltonPort Adelaide36,2007,4006,70034333-5.44%
24/4RichmondMelbourne58,60016,70010,00070,33416.68%
25/4Essendon Collingwood82,60019,80019,40084,2051.91%
7/5RichmondCollingwood71,10014,30014,50064,481-10.27%
8/5MelbourneSt Kilda41,90014,1006,20035,767-17.15%
551,000528899-4.18%
 

BallaratBulldog

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Really strange how it’s not at the G. Disappointed because it could’ve reached 50k as the Collingwood army have turned up in full force.

Some interstate teams play more MCG games than us, so would also like this to stop happening (even though technically bit of playing advantage)
 

parano1a

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Really strange how it’s not at the G. Disappointed because it could’ve reached 50k as the Collingwood army have turned up in full force.
Collingwood are contractually required to play 2 home games every year at Marvel. As a trade off we get 5 guaranteed away games at the MCG in addition to our 9 home games.
 

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MattF185

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Collingwood are contractually required to play 2 home games every year at Marvel. As a trade off we get 5 guaranteed away games at the MCG in addition to our 9 home games.
Yeah, but a home match against the runner up from the previous season is not great fixturing. Playing North Melbourne would’ve made more sense at Marvel for 2022.
 

dave10

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Without looking it up that would be one of the biggest crowds we’ve had here for years. I’m pretty sure we haven’t hit 45k since 2010 or 2011.
Essendon have had several since 2010. Can’t list them but they’ve had countless ‘sell out’ crowds in the low/mid 40,000’s range.
 

dave10

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Insane effort. Just goes to show the pies supporters really are the most consistent. No matter what, they will always turn up. This is the biggest crowd at Marval for a very long time too.


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We’ve got short memories😄 Pre covid pandemic crowds regularly in this range. This is since 2017 alone. There may well have been several others involving Carlton or Hawthirn too.

2019 > 42,000

Essendon V St Kilda - 44,252
North V Essendon - 48,277
Essendon V Hawthorn - 44,846
Essendon V North - 45,682
Essendon V Power - 42,940

2018 > 42,000
Essendon V Adelaide - 43,016
Essendon V North - 45,580
Essendon V Sydney - 42,251

2017 > 42,000
Essendon V Melbourne - 44,040
St Kilda V Essendon - 47,156
Bulldogs V Essendon - 48,754
Essendon V Fremantle - 42,665
 

manicmagpie

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Further context to last night's crowd and the complete drop off in attitude towards Docklands from Collingwood fans.

It was Collingwood's largest crowd at the venue for 10 years. However in the 12 years prior to that (2000-12) there were 32 bigger Collingwood crowds at Docklands, and only 15 lower crowds against Vic opposition.
 
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manicmagpie

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I probably post this every year, but making all Collingwood home games be played at the MCG would be better for the whole competition, not just the Pies.

Currently, our fixture may as well be set in stone.

Every year since GWS joined we have:
  • 14 games at the G (contracted)
  • 2 home games at Docklands (AFL mandate)
  • at least 5 away games to non-Vic clubs (every non-Pies fans’ heads explode if less)
This leaves just one remaining game, which in theory could be anything but in practice has always been set as an away game at Docklands.

This has the effect of locking in particular match ups and excluding others. We virtually have to have away games against Melbourne, Hawthorn, Richmond, Carlton and Essendon every year to fulfill the MCG deal.

We can also only play 1 away game against North Melbourne, St Kilda or the Bulldogs each year, meaning those clubs only get 1 each every three years. Geelong haven’t had a home game against us since 2017, and there‘s no room to give them one unless it’s at the G, which they don’t want.

The insane thing is that in the last 7 seasons, North Melbourne have missed out on a home game against Collingwood the same number of times as Melbourne has in their entire history.

Putting all 11 Collingwood home games MCG makes this so much fairer. In this scenario, only 3 away games at the G are required, which is the amount we‘d get in a random draw anyway.

Keeping the appropriate 5 games away to non-Vic clubs would leave 3 other away games to Vic teams. This could mean more home games against us for the Docklands tenants, it would also mean Geelong could play us at Kardinia Park, or Hawthorn/North to play us in Tasmania (if they want).

The only possible losers from this would be the other MCG tenants, who may have to forego a home game against us every second or third year. Let’s all take a moment to consider their incredible sacrifice.
 

dave10

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I probably post this every year, but making all Collingwood home games be played at the MCG would be better for the whole competition, not just the Pies.

Currently, our fixture may as well be set in stone.

Every year since GWS joined we have:
  • 14 games at the G (contracted)
  • 2 home games at Docklands (AFL mandate)
  • at least 5 away games to non-Vic clubs (every non-Pies fans’ heads explode if less)
This leaves just one remaining game, which in theory could be anything but in practice has always been set as an away game at Docklands.

This has the effect of locking in particular match ups and excluding others. We virtually have to have away games against Melbourne, Hawthorn, Richmond, Carlton and Essendon every year to fulfill the MCG deal.

We can also only play 1 away game against North Melbourne, St Kilda or the Bulldogs each year, meaning those clubs only get 1 each every three years. Geelong haven’t had a home game against us since 2017, and there‘s no room to give them one unless it’s at the G, which they don’t want.

The insane thing is that in the last 7 seasons, North Melbourne have missed out on a home game against Collingwood the same number of times as Melbourne has in their entire history.

Putting all 11 Collingwood home games MCG makes this so much fairer. In this scenario, only 3 away games at the G are required, which is the amount we‘d get in a random draw anyway.

Keeping the appropriate 5 games away to non-Vic clubs would leave 3 other away games to Vic teams. This could mean more home games against us for the Docklands tenants, it would also mean Geelong could play us at Kardinia Park, or Hawthorn/North to play us in Tasmania (if they want).

The only possible losers from this would be the other MCG tenants, who may have to forego a home game against us every second or third year. Let’s all take a moment to consider their incredible sacrifice.
Whilst I get this and there’s lots of good arguments, the one thing not considered is Collingwood’s ‘role’ in supporting the success of the AFL’s $600M asset, Marvel Stadium.

There’s several clubs, Collingwood included that are playing their part in ensuring the venue is optimised via the Blockbuster quota the Stadium is contracted with the AFL to receive.

Further, things will become more complex. I’m the next two years both Carlton and Essendon will be lobbying to update their stadium agreements with the AFL. Essendon for its part wants another 1-2 more home games per year at the MCG which is what it’s supporter base will hold the club accountable to secure.

It’s complex and there’s lots of competing interests across the league and it’s clubs. What we can all agree on is the importance Marvel Stadiums role was in securing the game during covid and the need to ensure the leagues asset is supported ongoing broadly.

How this principle plays itself out over the next decade will not only be fascinating, it will I’m sure be competitively contest key by the interested parties.
 

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Whilst I get this and there’s lots of good arguments, the one thing not considered is Collingwood’s ‘role’ in supporting the success of the AFL’s $600M asset, Marvel Stadium.

There’s several clubs, Collingwood included that are playing their part in ensuring the venue is optimised via the Blockbuster quota the Stadium is contracted with the AFL to receive.

Further, things will become more complex. I’m the next two years both Carlton and Essendon will be lobbying to update their stadium agreements with the AFL. Essendon for its part wants another 1-2 more home games per year at the MCG which is what it’s supporter base will hold the club accountable to secure.

It’s complex and there’s lots of competing interests across the league and it’s clubs. What we can all agree on is the importance Marvel Stadiums role was in securing the game during covid and the need to ensure the leagues asset is supported ongoing broadly.

How this principle plays itself out over the next decade will not only be fascinating, it will I’m sure be competitively contest key by the interested parties.

FIXturing the G is complicated by the GF being located there, not by merit.
The stadium agreements (home games/blockbusters) the clubs seek to overlay on the FIX cant be allowed to further compromise the venue.
 

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