List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft Discussion

[Scorpus]

Our draft haul:

Pick 17 - Max Michalanney (matched F/S)
Pick 43 - Billy Dowling
Pick 50 - Hugh Bond

Rookie Pick 5 - Andrew McPherson

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Andrew Mcpherson

Age

26

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

3star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

118.5

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.5

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

4star

MG

118.5

2star

(re-listed)
Rookie Pick 21 - Paul Seedsman

11

Paul Seedsman

Age

33

Ht

190cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

7.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

(re-listed)

 

[George CantStandYa]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/afl-2022-spectre-of-a-tasmanian-team-has-rivals-on-red-alert-to-avoid-compromised-drafts-chaos/news-story/6ce867441cb5692ac96bbe532b9e5795?fbclid=IwAR3lnZA-ivgGgc1KqdvDglh8e1ZytKy4J8cNZ32snJ-DEx7iYD-n1BOykA0

AFL 2022: Spectre of a Tasmanian team has rivals on red alert to avoid compromised drafts chaos​

Clubs do not want to be stuck trying to rebuild when the likely new Tasmanian team is introduced, but the AFL has an idea to combat fears about a draft wipe-out, writes Jay Clark.

A new Tasmanian team would be forced to trade out a significant portion of its top draft picks for mature players in a bid to speed-up the 19th team’s on-field rise.
The league has begun briefing clubs on the proposed list concessions for a new Tasmanian team which aims to avoid the mistakes made in the Gold Coast and GWS Giants’ setup.

In particular, the league wants a new Tasmanian team to be more competitive in its first few seasons and, at the same time, minimise the impact of the draft concessions on rival clubs.

It means the 19th club would still receive a swathe of top draft picks but the league will make the club trade them for stars and ready-to-go role players rather than stockpile early selections for elite underage talents.

It will ensure rival clubs will still have access to the traded-out first-round draft picks in contrast to the 2010-2012 period when the Suns and Giants dominated the drafts.

Nine of the first 13 players at the 2010 draft went to Gold Coast and 11 of the first 14 players in the 2011 draft went to GWS, as well as the top-two players the following year.

It heavily restricted teams’ access to top-end talent for a three-year period, but the league is determined to avoid the same scenario when Tasmania is likely brought in from 2027.

A decision is expected to be made by the AFL in the next few weeks with strong support expected from all but two or three clubs.

The spectre of a Tasmanian team was a factor in this year’s trade period as Geelong and Hawthorn made moves to access young talent before the compromised drafts likely begin from 2025.

Jones please

 

[Mutineer]

 

[eDPS]

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Ain’t no way MacDonald is 81kg, kid is a string bean

 

[Draft Bored]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/afl-2022-spectre-of-a-tasmanian-team-has-rivals-on-red-alert-to-avoid-compromised-drafts-chaos/news-story/6ce867441cb5692ac96bbe532b9e5795?fbclid=IwAR3lnZA-ivgGgc1KqdvDglh8e1ZytKy4J8cNZ32snJ-DEx7iYD-n1BOykA0

AFL 2022: Spectre of a Tasmanian team has rivals on red alert to avoid compromised drafts chaos​

Clubs do not want to be stuck trying to rebuild when the likely new Tasmanian team is introduced, but the AFL has an idea to combat fears about a draft wipe-out, writes Jay Clark.

A new Tasmanian team would be forced to trade out a significant portion of its top draft picks for mature players in a bid to speed-up the 19th team’s on-field rise.
The league has begun briefing clubs on the proposed list concessions for a new Tasmanian team which aims to avoid the mistakes made in the Gold Coast and GWS Giants’ setup.

In particular, the league wants a new Tasmanian team to be more competitive in its first few seasons and, at the same time, minimise the impact of the draft concessions on rival clubs.

It means the 19th club would still receive a swathe of top draft picks but the league will make the club trade them for stars and ready-to-go role players rather than stockpile early selections for elite underage talents.

It will ensure rival clubs will still have access to the traded-out first-round draft picks in contrast to the 2010-2012 period when the Suns and Giants dominated the drafts.

Nine of the first 13 players at the 2010 draft went to Gold Coast and 11 of the first 14 players in the 2011 draft went to GWS, as well as the top-two players the following year.

It heavily restricted teams’ access to top-end talent for a three-year period, but the league is determined to avoid the same scenario when Tasmania is likely brought in from 2027.

A decision is expected to be made by the AFL in the next few weeks with strong support expected from all but two or three clubs.

The spectre of a Tasmanian team was a factor in this year’s trade period as Geelong and Hawthorn made moves to access young talent before the compromised drafts likely begin from 2025.

Hey Gil, if you don't want to compromise future drafts SEND NORTH MELBOURNE FFS!!!

They're starting the rebuild now, will be up and firing by then.

 

[Thunderstruck]

Dan Batten and Jordan Pinto seemingly agree he's a fair shot at exactly that.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/afl-draft-2022-the-top-40-prospects-october-power-rankings/news-story/5f1f1152c81c1707f00d52b82559f3ae

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Currently have him at 3 in my rankings

 

[CROW in BALI]

Currently have him at 3 in my rankings

Must admit I am a bit confused and disappointed now , I was certain everything was lining up for us to use 5 on Matteus and absolutely could have secured Rankine with next years first + some if necessary.
Surely it’s not possible he may have been considered a fraction too young with his early draft d.o.b as a potential big body mid for the rebuild and we will look to a Hollands type or pre /free agent for that, but I’m lost now having thought it a no brainer.

 

[Mostyn]

I feel like the first available pick in a trade would be 10? Perhaps our F1 for that and a F2?

Not sure that's worth it.

 

[Crow till I die]

So with the likely introduction of a Tasmanian 19th AFL side in 2027, we have 4 more 'uncompromised' drafts. If we have been drafting with an eye to 2024 as a finals tilt, we will still have time to top up on high end youngsters and it may be that when the team comes in, we are going to potentially be one of the least affected teams as we would have built from the ground up and our youth will all be entering mid 20's only by then

It would suck to have to go into rebuild mode a year or 2 before that side likely comes in

 

[Mutineer]

 

[Mutineer]

SA's top 5 at the National Draft Combine.​

​

2km Time Trial​

PLAYER	SANFL CLUB	TIME (MINUTES)
Jakob Ryan	Glenelg	6:16
Billy Dowling	North	6:21
Mattaes Phillipou	Eagles	6:25
Max Michalanney	Norwood	6:30
Harry Barnett	West	6:32

20m Sprint​

PLAYER	SANFL CLUB	TIME (SECONDS)
Mattaes Phillipou	Eagles	2.993
Jakob Ryan	Glenelg	3.01
Isaac Keeler	North	3.019
Max Michalanney	Norwood	3.028
Will Verrall	South	3.046

South Adelaide’s Will Verrall showing off his speed in the 20m Sprint. Picture – Jonathan DiMaggio (AFL Photos)

Agility Test​

PLAYER	SANFL CLUB	TIME (SECONDS)
Max Michalanney	Norwood	8.362
Billy Dowling	North	8.413
Mattaes Phillipou	Eagles	8.478
Jakob Ryan	Glenelg	8.566
Adam D'Aloia	Eagles	8.717

Standing Vertical Jump​

PLAYER	SANFL CLUB	HEIGHT (CM)
Will Verrall	South	67
Jaiden Magor	South	66
Max Michalanney	Norwood	64
Harry Barnett	West	62
Billy Dowling	North	61

Running Vertical Jump - Right​

PLAYER	SANFL CLUB	HEIGHT (CM)
Mattaes Phillipou	Eagles	83
Max Michalanney	Norwood	76
Will Verrall	South	73
Billy Dowling	North	72
Jaiden Magor	South	69

Running Vertical Jump - Left​

PLAYER	SANFL CLUB	HEIGHT (CM)
Will Verrall	South	90
Mattaes Phillipou	Eagles	87
Billy Dowling	North	75
Jakob Ryan	Glenelg	75
Harry Barnett	West	75

​

 

[dogs105]

2km Time Trial​

PLAYER	SANFL CLUB	TIME (MINUTES)
Jakob Ryan	Glenelg	6:16
Billy Dowling	North	6:21
Mattaes Phillipou	Eagles	6:25
Max Michalanney	Norwood	6:30
Harry Barnett	West	6:32

20m Sprint​

PLAYER	SANFL CLUB	TIME (SECONDS)
Mattaes Phillipou	Eagles	2.993
Jakob Ryan	Glenelg	3.01
Isaac Keeler	North	3.019
Max Michalanney	Norwood	3.028
Will Verrall	South	3.046

South Adelaide’s Will Verrall showing off his speed in the 20m Sprint. Picture – Jonathan DiMaggio (AFL Photos)

Agility Test​

PLAYER	SANFL CLUB	TIME (SECONDS)
Max Michalanney	Norwood	8.362
Billy Dowling	North	8.413
Mattaes Phillipou	Eagles	8.478
Jakob Ryan	Glenelg	8.566
Adam D'Aloia	Eagles	8.717

Standing Vertical Jump​

PLAYER	SANFL CLUB	HEIGHT (CM)
Will Verrall	South	67
Jaiden Magor	South	66
Max Michalanney	Norwood	64
Harry Barnett	West	62
Billy Dowling	North	61

Running Vertical Jump - Right​

PLAYER	SANFL CLUB	HEIGHT (CM)
Mattaes Phillipou	Eagles	83
Max Michalanney	Norwood	76
Will Verrall	South	73
Billy Dowling	North	72
Jaiden Magor	South	69

Running Vertical Jump - Left​

PLAYER	SANFL CLUB	HEIGHT (CM)
Will Verrall	South	90
Mattaes Phillipou	Eagles	87
Billy Dowling	North	75
Jakob Ryan	Glenelg	75
Harry Barnett	West	75

​

So Phillipou is skilful, clever, determined, big AND athletic and fast...

Sounds pretty good

 

[Mutineer]

SA's top 5 at the SA STATE Combine

Impressive display by South Adelaide's 198cm Tall Defender/Ruck.

2km Time Trial​

PLAYER	SANFL CLUB	TIME (MINUTES)
Lachlan Scannell	Glenelg	5:49
Frank Szekely	North	6:22
Kyle Marshall	South	6:27
Archie Lovelock	Glenelg	6:33
Tom Emmett	Sturt	6:33

20m Sprint​

PLAYER	SANFL CLUB	TIME (SECONDS)
Rhett Montgomerie	Central	3.013
Kyle Marshall	South	3.016
Oscar Kregar	West	3.039
Darcy Minchella	West	3.054
Shaun Bennier	North	3.09

Agility Test​

PLAYER	SANFL CLUB	TIME (SECONDS)
Tom Emmett	Sturt	8.161
Shaun Bennier	North	8.179
Jake Walker	Glenelg	8.21
Rhett Montgomerie	Central	8.213
Kobe Ryan	West	8.317

Standing Vertical Jump​

PLAYER	SANFL CLUB	HEIGHT (CM)
Oscar Kregar	West	71
Kyle Marshall	South	68
Kobe Ryan	West	64
Frank Szekely	North	64
Lachlan Scannell	Glenelg	63

Running Vertical Jump - Right Hand​

PLAYER	SANFL CLUB	HEIGHT (CM)
Kyle Marshall	South	85
Kobe Ryan	West	81
Lachlan Scannell	Glenelg	79
Darcy Minchella	West	76
Oscar Steene	West	73

Running Vertical Jump - Left Hand​

PLAYER	SANFL CLUB	HEIGHT (CM)
Kyle Marshall	South	89
Oscar Steene	West	83
Oscar Kregar	West	83
Lachlan Scannell	Glenelg	82
Kobe Ryan	West	79

 

[50BC]

Must admit I am a bit confused and disappointed now , I was certain everything was lining up for us to use 5 on Matteus and absolutely could have secured Rankine with next years first + some if necessary.
Surely it’s not possible he may have been considered a fraction too young with his early draft d.o.b as a potential big body mid for the rebuild and we will look to a Hollands type or pre /free agent for that, but I’m lost now having thought it a no brainer.

Wasn't certain we would have got him at what will be pick 6. 2023 is meant to be a much stronger deeper draft anyway. A lot of clubs seem to be valueing 2023 picks higher than 2022 picks.

 

[Anzacpaul]

Must admit I am a bit confused and disappointed now , I was certain everything was lining up for us to use 5 on Matteus and absolutely could have secured Rankine with next years first + some if necessary.
Surely it’s not possible he may have been considered a fraction too young with his early draft d.o.b as a potential big body mid for the rebuild and we will look to a Hollands type or pre /free agent for that, but I’m lost now having thought it a no brainer.

Didn't an ITK poster say that Adelaide had spoken to Phillipou and there were some red flags?

 

[George CantStandYa]

So Phillipou is skilful, clever, determined, big AND athletic and fast...

Sounds pretty good

Ok get him

 

[George CantStandYa]

Didn't an ITK poster say that Adelaide had spoken to Phillipou and there were some red flags?

TAFKATMS said thats bullshit and only yesterday I think

 

[CROW in BALI]

Wasn't certain we would have got him at what will be pick 6. 2023 is meant to be a much stronger deeper draft anyway. A lot of clubs seem to be valueing 2023 picks higher than 2022 picks.

Sure, have read about next years draft and who knows what pick we may have and could be a great player available to us. Guess what I was floating is after a total rebuild at what point is it getting too late to go to the draft for your No 1 elite
mid ( arguably your most important player )and you really need to trade one in.

 

[CROW in BALI]

Didn't an ITK poster say that Adelaide had spoken to Phillipou and there were some red flags?

Think our 2 in the know posters are in conflict on this one.

 

[1990crow]

Think our 2 in the know posters are in conflict on this one.

Club sending out two messages to see who is leaking

 

[Jeffcrowe]

So Phillipou is skilful, clever, determined, big AND athletic and fast...

Sounds pretty good

Freak athlete and very good footballer with upside

 

[Danger in Texas]

So Phillipou is skilful, clever, determined, big AND athletic and fast...

Sounds pretty good

Yeah he’s an enticing all-round package

The floor is probably lower than others in the top five, but the ceiling is undeniable

 

[Jeffcrowe]

As I’ve said a few times , put him in the bottom age list of this year and he sits in the top 3

So given he’s only eligible by 6 days why not get him as he’s available now rather than wait for a pick in next years 1st round

Edit • top 3 outside Harley Reid

 

[Danger in Texas]

As I’ve said a few times , put him in the bottom age list of this year and he sits in the top 3

So given he’s only eligible by 6 days why not get him as he’s available now rather than wait for a pick in next years 1st round

Question is, what would we have to give up

Say he’s available at the Dogs’ pick - would you do 11 + their F2 for 23 + our F1? IMO that might be what it’d take

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Question is, what would we have to give up

Say he’s available at the Dogs’ pick - would you do 11 + their F2 for 23 + our F1? IMO that might be what it’d take

Definitely would

 

[dogs105]

Ok get him

I'm on board