List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft & Rookie Draft

[Aphrodite]

 

[Arr0w]

Reliability & durability versus inspiration , game changing brilliance its the perennial conflict, the balance is essential and our game demands recruiters get it right , a fine line indeed , but a good team needs a well balanced blend of both.

I think we have the xfactor types, Gov, Martin, Charlie, Williams, Cuners, Honey, Kemp, Saad, Motlop and not surprised we added more workman, consistent types players in Cerra and Hewett

I agree, always about balance

 

[The_MCG]

I think we have the xfactor types, Gov, Martin, Charlie, Williams, Cuners, Honey, Kemp, Saad, Motlop and not surprised we added more workman, consistent types players in Cerra and Hewett

I agree, always about balance

Any chance you could give us a run down on why you have chosen the players you have in the phantom on the D&T board?

 

[katmanblue]

You forgot the McKay bros. to go with the Curnow bros.

Wait till Tom Silvagni comes on

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[Arr0w]

Any chance you could give us a run down on why you have chosen the players you have in the phantom on the D&T board?

Mentioned a couple of times that this draft is very even and every 5-6 picks or wider you can find similar quality

1st pick was a toss up in types between a medium type in Hotton and a tall in Hayes

Given our 2nd pick sits outside the range in terms of the next layer of talls, I went Hayes with the first pick.

As the season went on he just continued to grow as a player, in output, but literally taller. Now at 199, with reports he has grown taller again. I think his decision making and disposal around that decision making is top 5 in the draft. Reminds me of a Harris Andrews type.

While not an immediate need, you don't ignore talent and if he comes on early, you could shift Young to a forward/ruck role, which is also a need

2nd pick Ed Allan, real point of difference with his height, coupled with his speed and solid endurance. Runs all day both ways, smart user and can win his own footy.

3rd pick, Billy Dowling, extremely underrated. Can play inside or balanced mid, wing, HF, HB. Strong overhead and hits the scoreboard whether as a mid or resting forward. Like Hayes, his decision making and use of the pill, I see as top 5 in this draft. Racks up touches for fun. Against the premiers Glenelg, had 44 touches, 4 goals

 

[Stamos]

I think we have the xfactor types, Gov, Martin, Charlie, Williams, Cuners, Honey, Kemp, Saad, Motlop

Our problem is how little we got out of most of these guys this year.

 

[Arr0w]

Our problem is how little we got out of most of these guys this year.

Yeap, will be interesting if we can keep most of them on the park

 

[macky99]

Mentioned a couple of times that this draft is very even and every 5-6 picks or wider you can find similar quality

1st pick was a toss up in types between a medium type in Hotton and a tall in Hayes

Given our 2nd pick sits outside the range in terms of the next layer of talls, I went Hayes with the first pick.

As the season went on he just continued to grow as a player, in output, but literally taller. Now at 199, with reports he has grown taller again. I think his decision making and disposal around that decision making is top 5 in the draft. Reminds me of a Harris Andrews type.

While not an immediate need, you don't ignore talent and if he comes on early, you could shift Young to a forward/ruck role, which is also a need

2nd pick Ed Allan, real point of difference with his height, coupled with his speed and solid endurance. Runs all day both ways, smart user and can win his own footy.

3rd pick, Billy Dowling, extremely underrated. Can play inside or balanced mid, wing, HF, HB. Strong overhead and hits the scoreboard whether as a mid or resting forward. Like Hayes, his decision making and use of the pill, I see as top 5 in this draft. Racks up touches for fun. Against the premiers Glenelg, had 44 touches, 4 goals

Yes Ed Allen looks to be one that is going up the board, l have a feeling he will go with the Eagles 1st or 2nd pick, l suspect a few clubs would be very interested in Busslinger if they overlook him with their 1st selection.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

I would love it if whoever slides to 11 is someone we're not overly keen on, but Sydney and/or Giants are.
Get 2 top 20 picks and take George with one.

Just going by the foxsports article, the top 10 could end up looking something like this....

1. Cadman (GWS)
2. Ashcroft (Bris)
3. Wardlaw (NM)
4. Sheezel (NM)
5. Phillipou (Ess)
6. Ginbey (GCS)
7. Tsatas (Haw)
8. Clark (Geel)
9. Busslinger (WCE)
10. McKenzie (StK)
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11. Humphrey (Carl)
12. Hewett/Hayes (WBD)
13. Hewett/Allen (WCE)
14. Jefferson (Mel)
15. Hollands (Syd)

If Humphrey was still available at our pick, you'd reckon the Swans would come bashing our door down with a high degree of ferocity, cos he sure aint lasting to their first pick. Could end up being something like Swans >> #15, #18 and #43 for Carlton's #11, #30 and #50 if we were looking to trade down. Otherwise I'd be taking Humphrey in a heartbeat.

There's a fair chance Hollands could still be there at #15 anyway - so we could take take Hollands and George....and select Munkara with our 3rd pick which will come into the mid/late 30's after the f/s bids, just to piss * off

 

[Stamos]

11. Humphrey (Carl)

If Humphrey was still available at our pick, you'd reckon the Swans would come bashing our door down with a high degree of ferocity, cos he sure aint lasting to their first pick. Could end up being something like Swans >> #15, #18 and #43 for Carlton's #11, #30 and #50 if we were looking to trade down. Otherwise I'd be taking Humphrey in a heartbeat.

If it comes to that we should be keeping our 2nd.
#11 + #47 for #15 + #18 should be enough.

 

[macky99]

Just going by the foxsports article, the top 10 could end up looking something like this....

1. Cadman (GWS)
2. Ashcroft (Bris)
3. Wardlaw (NM)
4. Sheezel (NM)
5. Phillipou (Ess)
6. Ginbey (GCS)
7. Tsatas (Haw)
8. Clark (Geel)
9. Busslinger (WCE)
10. McKenzie (StK)
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.
.
11. Humphrey (Carl)
12. Hewett/Hayes (WBD)
13. Hewett/Allen (WCE)
14. Jefferson (Mel)
15. Hollands (Syd)

If Humphrey was still available at our pick, you'd reckon the Swans would come bashing our door down with a high degree of ferocity, cos he sure aint lasting to their first pick. Could end up being something like Swans >> #15, #18 and #43 for Carlton's #11, #30 and #50 if we were looking to trade down. Otherwise I'd be taking Humphrey in a heartbeat.

There's a fair chance Hollands could still be there at #15 anyway - so we could take take Hollands and George....and select Munkara with our 3rd pick which will come into the mid/late 30's after the f/s bids, just to piss * off

I could be wrong but l don't think Humphrey will slide that far, would not be disappointed if he did because l believe he has probably the most upside of any in this draft with his potential growth, Phillipou is more likely to be the one to slide down to the 10-13 range.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

I could be wrong but l don't think Humphrey will slide that far, would not be disappointed if he did because l believe he has probably the most upside of any in this draft with his potential growth, Phillipou is more likely to be the one to slide down to the 10-13 range.

Yep, agree....I was just going by the article.

 

[reubsblues]

Just going by the foxsports article, the top 10 could end up looking something like this....

1. Cadman (GWS)
2. Ashcroft (Bris)
3. Wardlaw (NM)
4. Sheezel (NM)
5. Phillipou (Ess)
6. Ginbey (GCS)
7. Tsatas (Haw)
8. Clark (Geel)
9. Busslinger (WCE)
10. McKenzie (StK)
.
.
.
11. Humphrey (Carl)
12. Hewett/Hayes (WBD)
13. Hewett/Allen (WCE)
14. Jefferson (Mel)
15. Hollands (Syd)

If Humphrey was still available at our pick, you'd reckon the Swans would come bashing our door down with a high degree of ferocity, cos he sure aint lasting to their first pick. Could end up being something like Swans >> #15, #18 and #43 for Carlton's #11, #30 and #50 if we were looking to trade down. Otherwise I'd be taking Humphrey in a heartbeat.

There's a fair chance Hollands could still be there at #15 anyway - so we could take take Hollands and George....and select Munkara with our 3rd pick which will come into the mid/late 30's after the f/s bids, just to piss * off

Tsatas will be a steal at 7

 

[bmaurizio]

Our problem is how little we got out of most of these guys this year.

Agree player durability has been and continues to plague our team and until manged better will hammere our progress.
Hopefully we have some luck in 2023, it may well allow us to play on late into September. Go Blues

 

[GT619]

Just going by the foxsports article, the top 10 could end up looking something like this....

1. Cadman (GWS)
2. Ashcroft (Bris)
3. Wardlaw (NM)
4. Sheezel (NM)
5. Phillipou (Ess)
6. Ginbey (GCS)
7. Tsatas (Haw)
8. Clark (Geel)
9. Busslinger (WCE)
10. McKenzie (StK)
.
.
.
11. Humphrey (Carl)
12. Hewett/Hayes (WBD)
13. Hewett/Allen (WCE)
14. Jefferson (Mel)
15. Hollands (Syd)

If Humphrey was still available at our pick, you'd reckon the Swans would come bashing our door down with a high degree of ferocity, cos he sure aint lasting to their first pick. Could end up being something like Swans >> #15, #18 and #43 for Carlton's #11, #30 and #50 if we were looking to trade down. Otherwise I'd be taking Humphrey in a heartbeat.

There's a fair chance Hollands could still be there at #15 anyway - so we could take take Hollands and George....and select Munkara with our 3rd pick which will come into the mid/late 30's after the f/s bids, just to piss * off

Sounds like a fantasy then reality

 

[The Return of the Paf]

I think we have the xfactor types, Gov, Martin, Charlie, Williams, Cuners, Honey, Kemp, Saad, Motlop and not surprised we added more workman, consistent types players in Cerra and Hewett

I agree, always about balance

I don't think recruiters think like that. Those two players just became available at the right time at what we deemed to be the right price. I also don't think 'x factor' was on the mind of the recruiters when we obtained at least half of the former list. They just get the players in who they believe can do the job versus those they think can not. I'd hate to think that we'd overlook a player simply because we have Cuningham or Honey on the list, it just wouldn't be pertinent.

 

[The Return of the Paf]

Sounds like a fantasy then reality

So, it's a fantasy first and then it becomes a reality. So we will get Humphrey, then?

 

[Arr0w]

I don't think recruiters think like that. Those two players just became available at the right time at what we deemed to be the right price. I also don't think 'x factor' was on the mind of the recruiters when we obtained at least half of the former list. They just get the players in who they believe can do the job versus those they think can not. I'd hate to think that we'd overlook a player simply because we have Cuners or Honey on the list, it just wouldn't be pertinent.

You don't overlook talent, ever

Will put it this way. I have always said, draft talent, trade needs. So, if you drafted a freak like Charlie, do you pay overs in a trade for another? No

Conversely, if we draft or traded in a more durable and or better version of Cuners, that wouldn't take much in a draftee, nor cost much in a trade, would you do it? Sure

As for Hewett or Cerra, just because they were looking to move, doesn't mean you simply get them because you want them

Cerra was happy getting to the Demons, they just didn't have the draft picks to get it done

 

[Ald Gardiner]

I’ve not looked too hard at this thread to date and need to get my eye in.

What is the consensus on the “type” of player we are after and who will be at pick 10 that could meet these needs?

Just a few contenders will be fine, cheers

 

[Wickzki]

I’ve not looked too hard at this thread to date and need to get my eye in.

What is the consensus on the “type” of player we are after and who will be at pick 10 that could meet these needs?

The general consensus seems to be that we're in a unique position for where we've been over the last decade. We're not pressing for anything urgently, therefore, it is highly likely that we go for best player available regardless of position.

We could do with extra key position types but we can also do with more run and carry on the outside or a combination midfielder might be the go.

Hayes or Busslinger for a tall Or maybe a Hewett or a Hollands for a mid. Maybe we'll be lucky enough in a slider Will drop to us and then there's always a possibility that we trade down for the multiple selections.

Not nearly as open and closed as it has been

 

[Stefchook]

Do we not rate Jefferson as highly? I would have thought we have slightly more need of a young talented kpf than a young talented kpd.

 

[GT619]

So, it's a fantasy first and then it becomes a reality. So we will get Humphrey, then?

Yep

 

[GT619]

The general consensus seems to be that we're in a unique position for where we've been over the last decade. We're not pressing for anything urgently, therefore, it is highly likely that we go for best player available regardless of position.

We could do with extra key position types but we can also do with more run and carry on the outside or a combination midfielder might be the go.

Hayes or Busslinger for a tall Or maybe a Hewett or a Hollands for a mid. Maybe we'll be lucky enough in a slider Will drop to us and then there's always a possibility that we trade down for the multiple selections.

Not nearly as open and closed as it has been

Do you trust gov and marchy durability

 

[thebluenewdeal]

Do we not rate Jefferson as highly? I would have thought we have slightly more need of a young talented kpf than a young talented kpd.

If he makes it to our pick then he’s best available next to anyone else so we should definitely pick him if that’s the case. Don’t think he’ll make it to our pick though. Someone will bite. He’ll be a very good player in 2-3 years. I can see him kicking 50+ goals in a good team down the line. Hawks, *, saints and north would be negligent if they don’t pick him up.

 

[thylacine60]

Yeap, will be interesting if we can keep most of them on the park

now you're just being a dill..........

 

[Wickzki]

Do you trust gov and marchy durability

No but I trust Kemp to develop, Plow and Durdin to cover for depth, Boyd to assert himself firmly in the best 22 picture and our other defenders to continue standing up.

We wont get someone capable of replacing Marchy or Gov that is as far developed as Kemp or as trusty (even if not a great player) as Plow at 10.

Its also (personally) not a position that I'd be looking to pay a premium price for. I think you may find we take someone who can do a job there in the latter parts of the draft.

I believe we will pick up BPA at a premium position at 10 and draft accordingly (BPA who meets list requirements) following that.