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List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft & Rookie Draft
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Dunno where all this DFA Jones talk has come from - the AFL has already said that they're allowing him to move as a UFA this year given the extenuating circumstances of his retirement. He retired, we're not delisting him. He's only "on the list" because his retirement came after the final list lodgement, but that doesn't change the fact that he officially retired.
If WB want Jones it's as a UFA, and it potentially offsets the pretty moderate compo they might have gotten for Johannisen.
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Thoughts on Isaac Keeler?
Paddy Ryder Mk. 2? (which is a positive imo)
Paddy Ryder Mk. 2? (which is a positive imo)
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Liking plenty of those names between 11 and 20.
Jefferson - definitely an option though I still think we're better only investing a late/rookie pick in a project tall forward.
Hewett, Hollands, Szybkowski - all handy midfield options and seem like pretty safe picks.
George, Konstanty - definitely an area of need (natural goal kickers), wouldn't be against either of them.
Ginbey, Hustwaite - less of a need as utilities (already trying to find a role for Kemp), but worth consideration.
Sliding down to our second pick (if we keep it and secure Acres using future picks or Jones compo), there's some tall options I'd love us to look at. Keeler, Hayes and Weddle, any of the three being available at 28 and I reckon I'd bite.
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I don’t think Setters is staying, you don’t hang players out like that if you want to re-sign them, he is the type of player we have a lot of and imo is not best 22.
Id like us to use a future 2nd for Acres or trade a future 2nd to get back in the draft.
Im also quite sceptical on the Jones compo but we will see.
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The chat has come from me being a big sceptic.
Jones has been classed as a UFA by the AFL.
If a UFA doesn’t get picked up in the free agency period, they don’t lose their free agency status. Some think we have an agreement with the AFL and I hope so, but the AFL have classed Liam as a UFA, that doesn’t mean the Dogs have to take him as a FA.
Jones retired and there’s rules around that, but he’s also been classed as a UFA which rules contradict the retirement listings. I wouldn’t be surprised if we did a trade with the Dogs, or maybe I’m just being paranoid.
Could be, has most of the attributes. Just watching the under 18 games, I actually looked at him with consideration to the role. Impressed by him, but was no comparison between him and Darcy Edmends when talking specifically if a wing. Edmends is a ready made winger. Holds width, genuine, quality two sided disposal. I am surprised he hasn’t been talked up.
We need to regenerate our KPP this year or next (would suggest a forward minimum this year), if we offload a couple of depth mids, a “balanced”, perhaps outside leaning mid is also a priority.
Hotton would be a decent each way bet, although must admit I consider him more second round than first. In bygone eras, he would be your classic second rover, good enough around the ground, but relied upon for a regular goal or three when “resting”. No slouch overhead for his height. May (probably) be a bit of a reach, but not beyond possibility to develop in a “Tobyesque” manner.
Wow, that is an inadvertent talk up as I wrote and thought about the player. Might have to change my second rounder thoughts.
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If we go a tall with our 1st, Edmends will/should be their for our 2nd and I rate him in the 18-23 range
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Agree with the KPP...
Keeler or Busslinger (if he slides)
Quality KPP don't grow on trees or every team would have them...
Love Keeler on face value. One for the recruiters and psychologists to assess. Has been long (years) mentioned as a sublime talent. SA key talls were being hyped in top 5 early in the season (Scully and Lemmey) Keeler was discussed as next in line due only to his apparent lack of motivation and commitment. Was regularly talked up as having the most upside.
The Paddy Ryder reference is absolutely appropriate. Looks more likely to be X-factor forward, but likely to thrive on having the freedom to roam around the ground. On face value, grew during the carnival and in fairness his commitment on face value shouldn’t be questioned. Kids can develop a lot between 15 and 18, he may be a generational talent.
“Smart money” suggests best left to one of the SA clubs (think is Adelaide NGA), but may be a gamble worth taking. Idealistically could be a great foil for TDK in a couple of years, and we absolutely need at least one young developing key forward for structure in our seconds if nothing else. (I really like Phoenix Foster who is a similar, but less spectacular type of forward/ruck).
On the back of the Stocker “failures” it would be brave for our recruiters to draft the “enigma” of the draft class. Monster upside though.
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Sounds like a level headed lad....
Watch game from 1.30 - wins his own ball from the ruck contest!
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It's understandable that you have an emotional connection to Ricciuto, but he's not exactly a reliable source for Carlton player contracts...
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Any views on Hustwaite? Tall, poised, good kick.
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I don't read too much in a players performance when their side is dominating
Keeler does have freak ability, but it's consistency that is the concern. Have other KPFs or players that can play that role in front of him
Keeler does have freak ability, but it's consistency that is the concern. Have other KPFs or players that can play that role in front of him
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What games would I watch when looking at Oli Hotton?
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Thoughts on his awareness? I’ve only seen one game of his but that worried me.
Not concerned in that area, natural reader of play
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Yep, you get them while they are there, IMO. It might be different if we had a particular draft smoky in mind, who we a confident will still be there with a later pick, but I doubt it, it would be a chance thing at best.
Delayed answer gathering thoughts.
Initial thoughts were “must have”, but I have cooled. He is a classic “tweener”. Is he a mid or defender. On my viewing, he is more accumulator than bull in the guts despite his 194cm. Physically tough enough without being robust. Could be a Pendlebury type as a hopeful ceiling or could struggle to find a role. Not beyond possibility mimics Acres and spends half his career looking for a spot.
His body shape suggests he may have more growth, so might get to KPD levels. Not hard to see him as a distributing third tall either. No slow on him as such, shown enough and could become a “star”. I just struggle to see a defined role from my viewing.
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Second or third rounder, I would think. Question is, assuming we get Acres, would we want another winger with the possibility of the Camporeale boys the following year. I really like Edmends, but it may not be prudent to overload and unbalance the list further.
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