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List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and trading thread

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Hinge is the one that sticks out here. Clearly a retain IMO and wonder what the hold up is? Or does he get traded back to QLD..
Is it simply a case of wait and see who we bring in and how much for, and then Hinge can have what’s left over? He’s done absolutely nothing to suggest they won’t give him a contract.
 
Is it simply a case of wait and see who we bring in and how much for, and then Hinge can have what’s left over? He’s done absolutely nothing to suggest they won’t give him a contract.
Not sure....there would have to be a LOT left over currently. I am a little intrigued with this one as he is a very solid 15-22 type player on the team IMO and definitely up to AFL standard, certainly compared to Rowe, Davis, Frampton, Borlase etc
 

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I also question whether Worrell will be at the club next year. If we are going elite talent we need to give up draft capital and/or players. His handful of games (I assume) to finish this season against generally lowly competition see his stocks currently looking promising. With probable future captain Doedee having a grasp on 3rd tall and future F/S joining us in a similar role I just wonder whether Josh will be part of a trade over coming months.
 
I also question whether Worrell will be at the club next year. If we are going elite talent we need to give up draft capital and/or players. His handful of games (I assume) to finish this season against generally lowly competition see his stocks currently looking promising. With probable future captain Doedee having a grasp on 3rd tall and future F/S joining us in a similar role I just wonder whether Josh will be part of a trade over coming months.
Worrell was pick 28 in 2019 (ie a mid 2nd round pick).

We are unlikely to get the equivalent pick back today if we were to trade him. He has more upside than downside so I’d keep him if we can. He will either become a solid best 22 player and/or increase his trade value next year. He is unlikely to go down.
 
You would have to assume that we're going to trade some "in-contract" players
I’m sure we’re looking for a Crouch trade. I think if the right offer came for McAsey we’d take it. I’d suspect we’d be enquiring as to whether Brown would like to finish his contract at a team that might give him senior football.
Not sure....there would have to be a LOT left over currently. I am a little intrigued with this one as he is a very solid 15-22 type player on the team IMO and definitely up to AFL standard, certainly compared to Rowe, Davis, Frampton, Borlase etc
There is a LOT reportedly set aside for a couple players (Rankine, potentially JHF), tbh I really don’t know but one it comes to those 18th-22nd picked players there’s usually a lot of moving parts involved in getting their deals done so I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s one that’s going to wait until the end of trade period to finalise.

I also question whether Worrell will be at the club next year. If we are going elite talent we need to give up draft capital and/or players. His handful of games (I assume) to finish this season against generally lowly competition see his stocks currently looking promising. With probable future captain Doedee having a grasp on 3rd tall and future F/S joining us in a similar role I just wonder whether Josh will be part of a trade over coming months.
I’ve said this a million times but if you look at recent trade history, players are almost never traded when bringing across a “big fish”. Unless he requests a trade I’d be very surprised if he goes.
 
He could very well be delisted, given the (overly belated) emergence of Worrell. There's pretty much no chance of him ever being selected at AFL level (barring a horrendous injury run), so why bother keeping him on the list?

The counter arguments is that he's a Cat B rookie, so retaining him costs us nothing in terms of the list mathematics. I'm not sure that's a strong enough argument if they don't ever have any intention of playing him.

In any case, it's not the worst suggestion in LL's post. Re-signing Frampton is champagne comedy.

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What possible reason is there to delist Borlase? He's a minimum wage player who isn't taking a list spot. You might as well delist Boyle.
 
What possible reason is there to delist Borlase? He's a minimum wage player who isn't taking a list spot. You might as well delist Boyle.
That solely depends on whether list management see an AFL player in Borlase doesn't it? It's a list spot that can be used on a youngster they think will play AFL at some point.

Do you think he's a future AFL player?

Have to say I'm not seeing it.
 

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That solely depends on whether list management see an AFL player in Borlase doesn't it? It's a list spot that can be used on a youngster they think will play AFL at some point.

Do you think he's a future AFL player?

Have to say I'm not seeing it.
with Borlase being a Cat B, he isn't really using up a list spot ?
I don't think he is afl quality but I think the club need to also be able to fill an sanfl side which he is able to do cheaply
 
What possible reason is there to delist Borlase? He's a minimum wage player who isn't taking a list spot. You might as well delist Boyle.
What's the point in keeping him, if they're never going to play him? Charity isn't a good enough reason.

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That solely depends on whether list management see an AFL player in Borlase doesn't it? It's a list spot that can be used on a youngster they think will play AFL at some point.

Do you think he's a future AFL player?

Have to say I'm not seeing it.
He's a Cat B rookie, so the list mathematics is irrelevant - but I agree with everything else you've written here.

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with Borlase being a Cat B, he isn't really using up a list spot ?
I don't think he is afl quality but I think the club need to also be able to fill an sanfl side which he is able to do cheaply
So why not an Irish Gaelic footballer or similar that "may" play AFL instead?
 

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On Borlase, he's improving rapidly, so there's that at least.
Not sure where he fits at AFL level, doesn't seem quick enough or aerial enough for third tall defender, not tall enough for key defender. May be a big bodied mid, since he seems to have a decent tank and decent skills, just not sure he's good at getting high disposals and whether he'll be quick enough for that role.
I'd keep him on for another year, just to see where he ends up since it doesnt cost much and if we think he might have AFL potential but not B grade or higher, try and trade him to the power, since they'll prolly be starting a rebuild then and would love a favourite son. Even if we get a pick in say the 40's that's a reasonable upgrade on a cat b rookie (esp if we get some more like this and can bundle to get points to get up higher). If we think he's B grade or better, on to the main list he goes.
 
On Borlase, he's improving rapidly, so there's that at least.
Not sure where he fits at AFL level, doesn't seem quick enough or aerial enough for third tall defender, not tall enough for key defender. May be a big bodied mid, since he seems to have a decent tank and decent skills, just not sure he's good at getting high disposals and whether he'll be quick enough for that role.
I'd keep him on for another year, just to see where he ends up since it doesnt cost much and if we think he might have AFL potential but not B grade or higher, try and trade him to the power, since they'll prolly be starting a rebuild then and would love a favourite son. Even if we get a pick in say the 40's that's a reasonable upgrade on a cat b rookie (esp if we get some more like this and can bundle to get points to get up higher). If we think he's B grade or better, on to the main list he goes.
I don't think you can trade rookies, so he probably needs to be upgraded to the main list first.

His only hope would be a Sam Collins type,t 2cm shorter (192 v 194) which could be a problem.
 
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