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I don't think it's selfish to want to earn, especially given you have a short shelf life in professional sport. It's not Sloane's job to manage the salary cap so the negative ramifications of paying him too much is not his problem.

Totally agree, players are entitled to get as much as they can. Sloane no exception.
 
I think the issue with giving big contracts to aging players isn't to do with loyalty or players holding us to ransom or whatever, but just a fundamental mismanagement of how we do/did manage our salary cap long term. Rather than paying players big in their prime years and trailing them off in their later ones we go on an escalating scale and you get your bag when you're 27/28 which then takes you into retirement (or near it). A gold watch farewell present if you will. It worked with Tex in that he made it and now we can continue on with 1 year deals, we've seen it bite us with guys like Sloane, Talia, Jenkins and Betts.

My hope would be with things like us offering big deals to guys like Dawson and Rankine who are in the 22-24 age bracket we're moving away from that, but it's probably been a big reason why we've had trouble attracting young talent previously (and why we lost so much) because we've always operated on the "you gotta play 150-200 games to get your big deal" principal whereas so many teams will pay way more for having done way less.

It didn’t really work with Tex. His 3rd and 2nd last years of his contract were poor given his talent. It’s only the contract years where he’s returned to high quality output. With him we tend to use injury to explain his lack of output, which is quite likely. But fact remains that his 2019 and 2020 were similar to Sloane’s last 2-3 years. Talia was ok through his contract, just bad luck/management with injury the final year.

The rest I agree with and it’s almost certainly one of the main reasons we’re keeping our kids these days.
 
if they don't exist then why are you so offended Mr vaguely slavery related name man?

I should have known Chamillionaire and Killer Mike were white supremacists, that's on me.

No one's offended, if you've self assessed and decided you can only win fights with imaginary opponents in the numpty weight class go for it.
 

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AFL need to step in, this pillaging of GWS by big Vic clubs or the most successful is getting out of hand.

The GWS star players are Going to Richmond Collingwood Geelong, none of them are going to bottom Vic sides.

But the one time a good SA kid wants to leave an Expansion club to join Adelaide it's every one is up in arms and demanding top 5 picks exchange hands.

It's almost better to be drafted by a GWS or Gold Coast if you're a good Vic kid as in two years time you can pick whichever team is in the premiership window and join them or alternatively move home on mega cash.
 
AFL need to step in, this pillaging of GWS by big Vic clubs or the most successful is getting out of hand.

The GWS star players are Going to Richmond Collingwood Geelong, none of them are going to bottom Vic sides.

But the one time a good SA kid wants to leave an Expansion club to join Adelaide it's every one is up in arms and demanding top 5 picks exchange hands.

It's almost better to be drafted by a GWS or Gold Coast if you're a good Vic kid as in two years time you can pick whichever team is in the premiership window and join them or alternatively move home on mega cash.

The AFL made their bed with GWS when they gave them 9 first round picks in 2011 plus priority access to 12 underagers, plus enough other capital to get another 2 first rounders in 2011, 5 first round picks in 2012, and 3 in 2013 while only losing Dom Tyson

So before they'd really lost anyone, they ended up with 18 first rounders on their list, plus Tom Scully, Phil Davis and Callan Ward, AND underage access to Jeremy Cameron, Dylan Shiel, and Adam Treloar.

They were never going to be able to keep that many top end players on their list. The flow on effect is still occurring today where they lose players due to salary cap constraints and replace them with more first round picks who leave and the cycle continues
 
For example, the AFL gifts GWS Shiel, Cameron and Treloar as draft concessions. They all leave.

The picks they got for Treloar became Hopper (leaving) and Taranto (leaving) after other pick swaps

Shiel became Caldwell (left) and Ash (still there)

Cameron became Stone, Angwin and Callaghan

So the draft concessions are currently on their second generation of first rounders coming in as players leave. From those three players and strategic repositioning using other picks they've ended up with seven first round picks directly in trade compensation, which causes more list issues and so on
 
you watch GWS end up losing this kid for nothing (like Hately). All their time and energy will be going into Taranto and Hopper trades. But thats ok, because if it happened it would be a Vic club benefiting

 
you watch GWS end up losing this kid for nothing (like Hately). All their time and energy will be going into Taranto and Hopper trades. But thats ok, because if it happened it would be a Vic club benefiting


Isn't it ridiculous. The stronger get stronger. Good young VIC players just cut their teeth, then pick the successful club they want.
 
you watch GWS end up losing this kid for nothing (like Hately). All their time and energy will be going into Taranto and Hopper trades. But thats ok, because if it happened it would be a Vic club benefiting


At the rate it is going it will soon be the Geelong Western Scats. Then just merge Gold Coast and Norf and move them to tassie...
 

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