Yeah , the Saints are probably one of the harder sides to place 1-18. Having said that , for me the middle ground seems most likely. I'm waiting on the fixture to come out but suspect I might place them 8. Blues and Bombers I also see in that middle grouping of sides with the Dockers . My reasoning for those 4 sides being in that middle grouping, is their not good enough to legitimately contend, but they are too good to be in wooden spoon calculations.Saints were the big disappointment of 2021 for me. I can see 2022 either having it all come together and they do deep or it all explodes spectacularly and they bomb out.