List Mgmt. 2022 Trade Thread - Part II

[Diehard Saint]

How anyone can judge Clark on his last two injury ruined seasons is beyond me.

Use Cripps as an example. Last year many commentators were saying he was washed up and playing like an old man with his back injury. Some were calling for him to relinquish the captaincy to Walsh. Fast forward 12 months and a fully fit Cripps has just won the Brownlow.

No way would I trade Clark until he's had a good run at it. I don't want to see him go elsewhere and play 150-200 games for another club.

I've heard that tune too many times already.

This.

 

[bird_man]

Clark meeting with Essendon when he gets back from holidays

 

[Max the great]

Clark meeting with Essendon when he gets back from holidays

Lol Dildorwank will offer us a 4th rounder

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[Diehard Saint]

What you said is mostly true but who was it that said "The harder I worked the luckier I got"?

Gary Player, I believe.

 

[Mowman]

Gary Player, I believe.

Yep

 

[Joffaboy]

not spend the $$$ i do with them until they sort their sh1t out

[emoji817]

 

[Yawkey way]

If Bassett had any idea he would get rid of Leathlean & Gallagher

But he will most likely send another email about when our window will be open

Start as you mean to go on, trade Clark for a pick in the twenties.

 

[botts]

I wonder how many memberships will be cancelled if we trade clark for a future second rounder

 

[Hubnester]

Dates for reference. Personally I can't wait for 50 minutes of ads out of every hour for two weeks on trade radio

Key dates for the 2022 AFL Sign and Trade Period:


Friday 30 September at 9.00am

• AFL Restricted Free Agency and Unrestricted Free Agency Period commences

Monday 03 October at 9.00am

• Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period commences – Players & Selections

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm

• Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October

• NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
• AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm

• Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections

Thursday 03 November at 9.00am

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
• Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

• NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

• 2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)
• Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

• Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)
• 2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)
• Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)
• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)
• Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)
• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

• NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
• NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

• Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[Munga]

He doesn’t wanna leave is what I heard today

Cos he might have to clean up his act at another club? Got it too good at the Saints?

Although, Buddy was on two strikes when he left Clarko's Hawks... apparently. Not sure even Clarko can stop that sh*t.

 

[StCicatriz]

Because clubs openly chased those guys. We went hard at Hill for 6 months and offered him a 900k deal.

We've told clubs Clark is available

Believe what you like mate, but if you genuinely believe we are going to get anything close to the Cerra deal, I feel you'll end up very disappointed

when have we told clubs Clark is available?

see if we've done this, i 100% agree with you, and if thats the case the list manager position is untenable. because the outcome from that is exactly as you described it diminishes his value.

if we cannot get the same outcome as cerra and weller, then we've absolutely cooked this.

 

[Mowman]

Clark meeting with Essendon when he gets back from holidays

Where was this ?

 

[stavro#4]

Because clubs openly chased those guys. We went hard at Hill for 6 months and offered him a 900k deal.

We've told clubs Clark is available

Believe what you like mate, but if you genuinely believe we are going to get anything close to the Cerra deal, I feel you'll end up very disappointed

Just to clarify.

I’m going to go with his AGENT has and we haven’t spoken directly to another club about Clark.

 

[stavro#4]

Where was this ?

In the article from earlier.

 

[Mr_R0b0t]

No, in the original article.

We have already begun to identify several areas that need to be and will be improved. The end result will be a go-forward strategy that will have the united support of management and the Board and hopefully will give us all confidence that we can deliver the success our members crave before too long.

“We are desperate to get better, and we are determined to start – in what will be our 150th year – to make clear to everyone that our on-field future will be much stronger than our past.”

The club intends to share the outcomes of this process with its members at the conclusion of the review.

This is absolutely positive from the club to be doing this, so different from the Saints of old. Hiding and running away. The club had or have some inherent issues, which they are identifying and actioning. Which is far more positive than some of the doomsdayers on here

 

[Joffaboy]

Where was this ?

In that article above

 

[StCicatriz]

Cera vs Clark:


100% we are in the same ball park as Cera here.

Clark vs Weller.


Same deal.

cerra got freo: pick 6!!!
weller got freo: Pick 2!!!!

and we are just accepting it will happen for a future 2nd rounder.

i'm sorry but its just not going to be acceptable to anyone if that happens.

Gags can over pay all he likes when he's trading in contracted players, because he wants to get it done to improve the list... but if he's also letting contracted players go for massive unders... we are in for a world of hurt.

maybe it's time we get a new list manager if this happens.

 

[Joffaboy]

This is absolutely positive from the club to be doing this, so different from the Saints of old. Hiding and running away. The club had or have some inherent issues, which they are identifying and actioning. Which is far more positive than some of the doomsdayers on here

Yup a real positive to give away a pick 7 for a second rounder while contracted.
Hopefully King for a future 4th as well

 

[HunterClarksHeadband]

You could get a shiny new name though? MaxKingsMow? MasonsWood?

A lot to play out Cursing - I'm sure I'll be opening a voting poll for my new username by the end of October unfortunately

 

[stavro#4]

 

[bird_man]

when have we told clubs Clark is available?

see if we've done this, i 100% agree with you, and if thats the case the list manager position is untenable. because the outcome from that is exactly as you described it diminishes his value.

if we cannot get the same outcome as cerra and weller, then we've absolutely cooked this.

We won't get near the same as those 2

Clearly the noise has gettable has come from somewhere

He's only decided to meet with clubs now and doesn't actually have a club to go to yet

Not sure it could be any more obvious that we have given him a nudge towards the door

Can't even compare it to the Weller scenario

 

[stavro#4]

We won't get near the same as those 2

Clearly the noise has gettable has come from somewhere

He's only decided to meet with clubs now and doesn't actually have a club to go to yet

Not sure it could be any more obvious that we have given him a nudge towards the door

Can't even compare it to the Weller scenario

Let’s accept he is going.

But the cost doesn’t make sense.

How does a 2023 second round pick - even if it’s pick 19/20/21

Help us next year?

 

[StCicatriz]

"with the help of"

seems to echo your thoughts stav.

a swap of future firsts plus the future 2nd rounder, there's a fair bit to gamble on there.

 

[StCicatriz]

Let’s accept he is going.

But the cost doesn’t make sense.

How does a 2023 second round pick - even if it’s pick 19/20/21

Help us next year?

we are also torching a year of development when Ratts has 2 years left plus a bunch of ageing players in the prime of their football.

its literally disasterous list management.

 

[Joffaboy]

Main part of that is 'with the help' not just the freebie.