List Mgmt. 2022 Trade Thread - Part II

[Drop Kick]

Need to wait until tomorrow for Noble to drop some hints on the saints review.

 

[Hubnester]

Noble's talk on the review pushed to tomorrow now. Too busy laughing about AFL ignoring a dodgy contract heh

 

[austinnn]

So we’re out of because we suck. Sweet.

No, we are out because Bowes sucks.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Noble now saying we should keep Clark

Together with getting rid of Lade and potentially getting Geoff Walsh, Noble appears to be doing a fine job atm.

*Edit: Getting Walsh, now confirmed.

 

[Saints43]

Yes, and just a few pages back he said the most likely reason he wasn't coming was because he wasn't very good so we didn't want him...

Whatever suits the narrative I guess

I've had to post that reply for you twice now. I said maybe St Kilda just didn't want Bowes.
Hard to know whether you're being obtuse or are just genuinely thick.

It's being reported now that it was never an option for Saints to trade for Bowes, which meant it can't be an opportunity missed, so you've had a little tanty about the club for nothing.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Bowes is contracted and GC are desperate to get him off their list as they are reportedly a long, long way ovee the cap.

So I'd imagine Bowes.

Actually I think Pick 7 has more value than Bowes so it will be interesting.

Geelong might say we will pick up Bowes and pay his salary and for that we want Pick 7.

Some other team then says - hang on - we will pick up Bowes and pay his salary AND we will give you a player and Pick 27 for Pick 7.

Or another club says, you pay half his salary and we'll pick him up and you can keep Pick 7.

Its not a straight trade situation and GCS have no responsibility to Bowes other than to ensure he gets paid as per his contract.

Lots to play out on this one.

 

[bird_man]

Actually I think Pick 7 has more value than Bowes so it will be interesting.

Geelong might say we will pick up Bowes and pay his salary and for that we want Pick 7.

Some other team then says - hang on - we will pick up Bowes and pay his salary AND we will give you a player and Pick 27 for Pick 7.

Or another club says, you pay half his salary and we'll pick him up and you can keep Pick 7.

Its not a straight trade situation and GCS have no responsibility to Bowes other than to ensure he gets paid as per his contract.

Lots to play out on this one.

Doubt that unfortunately

Bowes being contracted holds the whip hand. If he doesn't get to Geelong he can just dig his heals and stay which would kill GC's cap

Hope you are right though

We've said we want to get back in the draft but I'm not sure how we do it if we want to get decent picks rather than just a few extra 2nd rounders

 

[Hayes4PM]

If Bowes says “Geelong or I stay” I wonder if Gold Coast would entertain another player as a salary dump?

 

[St Significant]

If Bowes says “Geelong or I stay” I wonder if Gold Coast would entertain another player as a salary dump?

BINGo!

 

[PoppedCorn]

If Bowes says “Geelong or I stay” I wonder if Gold Coast would entertain another player as a salary dump?

 

[gringo2011]

Hopefully with a rejig of our assistants we might get him back on the wing and being used effectively to deliver the ball to some leading fwds.

Something that Ratts has to own is wanting a Porsche and then when he can't drive a manual hooking it up to a trailer to drive hay bails around the back paddock.

Good coaches work with their lists to extract maximum value from it. McRae has been able to do that and guys like Hardwick and Bevo are guns at it.

Hopefully some new coaches with more idea can guide him as to how to use Hill and Billings a bit better.

There are no guarantees that Degoey won't be back in a forward pocket if Ratts can't get on top of his coaching issues.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

BE A MAN SIGN THE DEAL SLAVE!! BE A MAAAAN MAAAAAATE!!

look gerard for him to hesitate mate its (long pause) bad

 

[bird_man]

If that's the case then there are 16 other teams that don't have there s**t together because Bowes rejected them as well

Doubt their were 16 clubs in a position to take on his salary and desperate to get back in the draft

 

[Mowman]

Three sides to every story, yours, mine and the truth.

I would imagine the real truth lies somewhere between he had no interest, to we had no interest.

Nope
We want him and he wants to come
Will be a saint lol

 

[Joffaboy]

Are Taranto and Hopper also a missed opportunity?

 

[PoppedCorn]

They can keep pick 7

We will gladly take Bing off their hands to relieve some salary cap pressure

 

[St Neil]

If Bowes says “Geelong or I stay” I wonder if Gold Coast would entertain another player as a salary dump?

Very good point. It’s not beyond the realms of possibility.

 

[bird_man]

Are Taranto and Hopper also a missed opportunity?

Not really sure either should be part of our strategy should they?

Are we in a position to be chasing players that could cost us two good draft picks?

I'd say no

 

[gringo2011]

Have to disagree.
People never went down to Seaford as it is. You’d be disenfranchising so many fans.

Cats fans for the most part live in Geelong. Saints fans, for the most part do not live in the areas you are suggesting.

Moorrabin offers the best of both worlds - players can live close the city or further down the coast, wherever they prefer.

I guess the difference is you could live somewhere like Rye for a lot less than anywhere city side of Moorabin. You could sell the sleepy cheaper lifestyle where you get no-one hassling you most of the time. Part of the charm of Geelong is that you can live on the surf coast or somewhere closer to Geelong for a lot less than it costs inner city.

Not many fans get to training anyway. You could have kept Moorabin as a second training ground and women's footy hub with a shop. Anyway it's done now but it was probably a good idea badly executed.

 

[Joffaboy]

They can keep pick 7

We will gladly take Bing off their hands to relieve some salary cap pressure

Another King with a buggered knee that we can all take out our frustrations on and say he is not developing

COME AT ME MOFO'S

 

[ScrappyDo]

Oh well that really clarifies things…

I'm not sure how to clarify it any better.
If you're that far out of the know then there's no point trying to find out.

 

[Joffaboy]

Not really sure either should be part of our strategy should they?

Are we in a position to be chasing players that could cost us two good draft picks?

I'd say no

Why would an injury bust back pocket on 1.7 mill over the next two years be in our strategy?

 

[bird_man]

I guess the difference is you could live somewhere like Rye for a lot less than anywhere city side of Moorabin. You could sell the sleepy cheaper lifestyle where you get no-one hassling you most of the time. Part of the charm of Geelong is that you can live on the surf coast or somewhere closer to Geelong for a lot less than it costs inner city.

Not many fans get to training anyway. You could have kept Moorabin as a second training ground and women's footy hub with a shop. Anyway it's done now but it was probably a good idea badly executed.

Didn't the players hate Seaford?

 

[bird_man]

Why would an injury bust back pocket on 1.7 mill over the next two years be in our strategy?

He would do if he comes with pick 7 for a club that is reportedly keen to get better picks for the draft...

 

[gringo2011]

You’re kidding right?
if we get him it’ll be more like….

Stupid Saints so desperate for success they’ll pay a fortune for a guy who refuses to sign a contract saying he’ll behave. This ill- considered decision will blow up in their faces with no leadership to rein him in, what are they thinking…….yada yada yada

Most of us will be pleased to get him but he's always been quite inconsistent. I reckon if he has a slow start the fans will turn on him quickly or if he ****s up early the club will be under immense media pressure. He's a top player but he's not Dusty, still a much better fit than Hill just for his ability to win his own ball. I liken it to getting Aaron Hamill, he's not elite but he's a nice addition.