List Mgmt. 2023 List Management thread

[Snuffaluphagus]

Mod notice after Mr Bob did a lot of annoying work in moving days of posts out of here. As we are heading into offseason, this thread is for 2023 list management only. Getting upset on previous trades can be taken to the vent thread. Lets keep this thread on track in the part of the year it's actually relevant

 

[MadMundy]

Brayshaw is one of those footballers who's better off dominating at WAFL level than being a depth AFL player.

 

[freo_leo29]

I get it, you're not a fan of Erasmus, but this is just bullshit

Who says I'm not a fan?

I support all our players


I'm just stating what I see, I genuinely think jom is faster than him

 

[apuchar]

He takes a while to wind up.

 

[Dockeroo]

A Couple or one?

Might have even been just one. I just remember it was on channel 7 in Melbourne anyway (a rare thing for a WA team). Possibly during the covid era.
I remember taking interest as he was Andy’s brother but that’s where the similarities end. I think he had about 5 or 6 touches.
Seemed a great bloke though, and appeared to be over the moon to be playing an AFL game

 

[Jezzitizle]

Feel like Ras has a quickness when the ball is near him on the ground, that’ll hold him in good stead. Not sure if it is a good step, good reflexes or what - probably the latter since he is supposed to be a handy cricketer I guess.

Not concerned about him, have seen enough good signs and he has the drive.

Feel like he is going to be really good in the wet thru his career, and in those games where the ball is on the deck a lot.

Probably less impactful when the ball is bouncing from end to end but you can’t be good at everything.*


*unless you are Pav.

 

[Swiggy]

Couple of rumours off twitter, Jake Waterman

2

Jake Waterman

Age

27

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.8

2star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.0

1star

M

5.8

5star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

to freo… very interesting

 

[Joao]

Couple of rumours off twitter, Jake Waterman to freo… very interesting

Interesting in a morbid fascination kind of way?

 

[heypenny]

Couple of rumours off twitter, Jake Waterman to freo… very interesting

I don't think we need another average 'tall-ish' forward. We have Tabs and Corbett as back-up next season. We can't keep using list spots on average forwards.

 

[Docker82]

Couple of rumours off twitter, Jake Waterman to freo… very interesting

Wouldn't be the worst player to bring in - bit of an upgrade on Corbett I'd say.

Just can't see how we bring in anyone but Sharp unless we lose some contracted players.

 

[s_wd6]

Couple of rumours off twitter, Jake Waterman to freo… very interesting

Love Jake. Great guy.

 

[heypenny]

On Erasmus. I think we're worrying a bit too much. Once you get into the back half of the first round, it's still hit and miss. And considering he has a December birthday, it's a positive that's he's played 20 games so far, and hasn't looked out of place.

It's an also a real positive that he's a hard worker and looks to be the type of person that will bring professionalism and high standards. You want those players in the club. I think the De Boer comparison from EShed is pretty apt. Although its not ideal to use a first rounder on an honest worker, I'd be pretty happy with a pick 10 playing 200+ games and bringing good culture to the club for 10+ years.

 

[Superkoops]

On Erasmus. I think we're worrying a bit too much. Once you get into the back half of the first round, it's still hit and miss. And considering he has a December birthday, it's a positive that's he's played 20 games so far, and hasn't looked out of place.

It's an also a real positive that he's a hard worker and looks to be the type of person that will bring professionalism and high standards. You want those players in the club. I think the De Boer comparison from EShed is pretty apt. Although its not ideal to use a first rounder on an honest worker, I'd be pretty happy with a pick 10 playing 200+ games and bringing good culture to the club for 10+ years.

I watched a bit if Erasmus at Hale. He beasted the PSA. Also elite at athletics.

At Subiaco played out of his skin in that under age GF. The second half of his colts year (after PSA) was disrupted due to a severe corky - significant thigh bleed which stopped him running and unable to participate in Combine.

He played very well in his early games last yea at Peel resulting in the coach giving high praise and not expecting to see him too much. Every game for Peel thereafter he has been tagged and had a run with. This year there were some good games (go back and watch the Collingwood loss). There were also a number of games where he was subbed off and countless games where he started as the sub. Johnson when coming on as sub also looked lost, it isn’t easy coming on 5mins before or after the 3 qtr siren and picking up the tempo straight away.

Mid season when he had a run of good WAFL form a number of posters indicating that we needed to get him into AFL side and the same posters having great concern on whether he will or won’t make it. He needs to bulk up. He will work as hard as anyone and I’m sure will be a very good LT player for the club.

 

[BigRang]

I watched a bit if Erasmus at Hale. He beasted the PSA. Also elite at athletics.

At Subiaco played out of his skin in that under age GF. The second half of his colts year (after PSA) was disrupted due to a severe corky - significant thigh bleed which stopped him running and unable to participate in Combine.

He played very well in his early games last yea at Peel resulting in the coach giving high praise and not expecting to see him too much. Every game for Peel thereafter he has been tagged and had a run with. This year there were some good games (go back and watch the Collingwood loss). There were also a number of games where he was subbed off and countless games where he started as the sub. Johnson when coming on as sub also looked lost, it isn’t easy coming on 5mins before or after the 3 qtr siren and picking up the tempo straight away.

Mid season when he had a run of good WAFL form a number of posters indicating that we needed to get him into AFL side and the same posters having great concern on whether he will or won’t make it. He needs to bulk up. He will work as hard as anyone and I’m sure will be a very good LT player for the club.

A young bloke playing a good game in a GF and also with good traits of hard work/professionalism and a hard head is a good combo IMO. If we're going to have a run of finals football in the coming years we'll need blokes that go up a level when the heat is on. Erasmus strikes me as that sort of player.

 

[Joao]

I watched a bit if Erasmus at Hale. He beasted the PSA. Also elite at athletics.

At Subiaco played out of his skin in that under age GF. The second half of his colts year (after PSA) was disrupted due to a severe corky - significant thigh bleed which stopped him running and unable to participate in Combine.

He played very well in his early games last yea at Peel resulting in the coach giving high praise and not expecting to see him too much. Every game for Peel thereafter he has been tagged and had a run with. This year there were some good games (go back and watch the Collingwood loss). There were also a number of games where he was subbed off and countless games where he started as the sub. Johnson when coming on as sub also looked lost, it isn’t easy coming on 5mins before or after the 3 qtr siren and picking up the tempo straight away.

Mid season when he had a run of good WAFL form a number of posters indicating that we needed to get him into AFL side and the same posters having great concern on whether he will or won’t make it. He needs to bulk up. He will work as hard as anyone and I’m sure will be a very good LT player for the club.

Counter point - he's not Judd yet. Delist.

 

[Warlord69]

Pardon the interruption.
Rumour is Darcy to North with pick 3 involved. Take of that as you will.

 

[Taylor]

Pardon the interruption.
Rumour is Darcy to North with pick 3 involved. Take that as you will.

When I made up that rumour it was pick #2 involved because pick #3 was going to WC for pick #1

 

[Warlord69]

When I made up that rumour it was pick #2 involved because pick #3 was going to WC for pick #1

Ye not sure who you are mate. Definitely didn’t read it on big footy.

 

[freo1997]

Ye not sure who you are mate. Definitely didn’t read it on big footy.

Larkey will do.

 

[Taylor]

Ye not sure who you are mate. Definitely didn’t read it on big footy.

I'm the West Coast Ass. List Manager

 

[Warlord69]

I'm the West Coast Ass. List Manager

Checks out - knew there were some clowns running that club

 

[Lach72]

Couple of rumours off twitter, Jake Waterman to freo… very interesting

JFC. I don’t have enough eyes for the roll that would happen

 

[Joao]

Pardon the interruption.
Rumour is Darcy to North with pick 3 involved. Take of that as you will.

I love trade rumours as much or more than the next guy, but I'll believe this once Sean lodges his trade request and not a moment before.

 

[theGav56]

The thing is don’t get with Erasmus, is why they didn’t give him an extended run playing fwd/mid ie in a Mitch Owens like role. Especially in the second half of the year.

I think you can make the case he’s going to have a very hard time breaking into the side as a pure midfielder given those who are ahead of him. Feel like that fwd/mid role would be ideal right at the moment.

I have a different question to do with list management. It does come with the caveat that MJ being available was an unknown when he was selected. But with other options for his position, could we have done better in that draft. Wanganeen-Millera a clearer list need IMO.

Alternatively, some crafty pick trading may have iced our forward needs as well. Perhaps we were nervous about Erasmus ending up at WC.

 

[Lach72]

I love trade rumours as much or more than the next guy, but I'll believe this once Sean lodges his trade request and not a moment before.

The only thing that gives me the serious heebie geebies is taking Reidie and Knobel.

Losing Darcy as well as Henry would not be…ideal

 

[wakojako]

The only thing that gives me the serious heebie geebies is taking Reidie and Knobel.

Losing Darcy as well as Henry would not be…ideal

Nah we needed an immediate ruck and a developing one. Rucks take many years to develop.