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Whilst I don't think WCE take this bloke he deserves a chance

WCE take Will Lorenz

It's been a weird year for Will where he played more on the wing but his best footy has been as a pure centre clearance midfielder. He's basically what I call "best available" at this point.

WCE are done now, 3 mids and 2 talls.

Dubai Quacker you are up for Fremantle

I like Lorenz.
 
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You're joining DQ in Port's bad books for a bit. Johnston is a good pick, a good kick, solid inside work and evasive skills on the outside, 2-way running, had me about to pull the trigger. Delean was a chance for my last pick too.
I think there are a few players that will be valued quite differently between clubs after the first 15 or so picks go in this years draft.
 
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I think there are a few players that will be valued quite differently between clubs after the first 15 or so picks go in this years draft.
15? More like 5.

It will be some order of Reid, Curtin, McKercher, Walter, Sanders and after that its anyones game. I had Duursma dropping to 8 in my mock
 

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Haven't trawled the last few pages but round 5 pick only costs me this year, so left it open for a late 'upside' pick. If still available GC pick Sam Van Rooyen.
He thinks he's a forward but I can see a defender in him. Either way, he's got enough tools

Bloods86 over to you, I'm passing anything else
 

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Vigo Visentini | Ruck | 204cm | 99kg | Sandringham

Uniting Vigo with brother Dante is not just a nice story, Vigo has come from a volleyball background to end 2023 as one of the most in-form rucks in the draft pool. Made the National Champs for Vic Metro, had a big game against WA as the main ruck, and stepped up his hitout, marking and disposal output after the Nationals. Not a strong leap ruckman, Vigo's strength lies in his positioning and work on opponents, with taps to advantage common when he wins the contest. Vigo is also known for his work rate and impact around the ground, getting to and marking hurried opposition kicks for example. There is some work to do on composure around disposal and further development for when he's resting forward, but Port are happy to have him on board (especially since he was their top ruck choice after the first batch being talked about in/around the Top 30).
 
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And the final pick...

Reece Torrent | Balanced Mid | 184cm | 83kg | Peel Thunder

Torrent has performed well this year at WAFL Reserves level, and at Nationals, being one of WA's better performers, after a big WAFL Colts GF display in 2022, helping Peel to victory. While not having as many gears (pace) as others, Torrent is classy and creative at his best, the type that seems to have more time to assess, before using his accurate and long-kicking left foot. Making his WAFL Seniors debut late in the year, Torrent is also a decent inside midfield talent, with a reasonably mature body helping him to deliver bumps, land or hold himself up in tackles. Port will look to improve his ball-winning capabilities, which aren't poor in any case, but with his composure and quality use, some additional touches may take him to the next level.

Port's Draft Wrap

Port has addressed, as best as it can (!), needs identified. The idea was to find young players that will begin to impact under a new coach in 2-3 years, when surely time will be up for an unsuccessful Hinkley. A hard running mid, a hybrid type, and a ruck to add to the 3 full timers on the list (with the new recruiting boss skeptical of Ivan Soldo's long term future at the club already). None of the "best available" potential sliders on Port's list made it through to their picks (arguably they only take 1 or 2 in reality).

Port may add some mature talent via the Rookie Draft, in the same or other areas of moderate need, to ensure the next coach has as much to work with in the short-medium term as possible E.g.

- Ethan Phillips (KPD, Port Melbourne) given Port's incoming personnel don't inspire confidence, and with several existing KPDs approaching or past 30 years old.

- Lachie Sullivan (Mid, Footscray Captain and VFL Coach's MVP), Angus Schumacher (Mid, East Perth, WAFL Team of the Year), or Harry Grant (Mid/Small Fwd, Magarey Medal winner from Central Districts). Shaun Mannagh (Mid/Fwd, integral part of Werribee's strong season) is also an option. All have nominated for the draft.

There are also other youngsters as rookie options that could well have been picked in the national draft, such as wingers Tarkyn O'Leary, Aiden O'Driscoll and Billy Wilson, Luke Lloyd (KPF), or Luca Slade (local, another Hybrid Mid).
 
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Cheers to the Mods, GUH for suggesting this, everyone else for the discussion. Good fun, even if a long wait for me.

PS. I didn't whip up bios for all my potential picks, just figured I'd be able to grab the last two I did by my lunchbreak today and plagiarised heavily.
 
58 players are drafted up to the original pick 112
BrownWill
CaddyNate
CallinanJack
CharlsonLachlan
ClearyCaiden
CollardLance
CurtinDaniel
CroftJordan
DawsonWil
De MattiaHarry
de la RueKade
DeleanJack
DuursmaZane
EdwardsMitchell
FontiJoe
FreijahJoel
GoadTaylor
GothardPhoenix
GrahamWill
GreenWill
HallClay
HastieAngus
JiathTew
HardemanRiley
JohnstonHarvey
LeakeJames
LorenzWill
LuolLuamon
McAuliffeKane
McCabeWill
MoirAshton
McKercherColby
MorrisLogan
MurphyOllie
PatonWill
PhilactidesNathan
O'SullivanConnor
ReadRead
ReidArcher
ReidHarley
RobertsArchie
RogersJake
SanchezKoen
SandersRyley
SchoenmakerArie
SimpsonCooper
SnellPatrick
StevensGeorge
TholstrupKoltyn
TorrentReece
Van RooyenSam
VisentiniVigo
WalterJed
WatsonNick
WilsonDarcy
WindsorCaleb
ZakostelskyZane
 

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Order of Picks


Pick
Club
Player (click on player below, will take you to post)Poster
1Gold Coast (match)Jed Walter (2013 Points)
(Picks 24, 26 and 27 used to match, 203 points remaining)
anotherletdown
2West CoastHarley ReidLukeParkerno1
3North MelbourneDaniel Curtinrobbieando
4North MelbourneConnor O’Sullivanrobbieando
5HawthornColby McKercherSydneyPhilly
6Gold Coast (match)Ethan Read (Points 203 + Picks 34, 38 and 40 used to match, 137 points remaining)anotherletdown
7Hawthorn (match)Will McCabe (F/S Hawthorn)SydneyPhilly
8Western BulldogsJames Leakerobbieando
9MelbourneRyley SandersKiama Chris
10GiantsZane DuursmaMembling
11Western Bulldogs (match)Jordan Croftrobbieando
12GeelongNate CaddyGrand Uncle Horace
13EssendonNick WatsonCallipygian
14AdelaideCaleb WindsorDan87
15MelbourneDarcy WilsonKiama Chris
16Gold Coast (match)Jake Rogers
(969 Points)
(Points 137 + Picks 68, 73 and 774 points from 2024 First)
anotherletdown
17SydneyArie SchoenmakerThe King!
18St KildaKoltyn TholstrupDubai Quacker
19AdelaideCharlie EdwardsDan87
20North MelbourneMitchell Edwardsrobbieando
21GiantsHarry De MattiaMembling
22North MelbourneRiley Hardemanrobbieando
23North MelbourneCaiden Clearyrobbieando
24CollingwoodArcher Reidsr20
25AdelaideTaylor GoadDan87
26St KildaAshton MoirDubai Quacker
27CarltonWill GrahamThe King!
End Round 1
28West CoastZane ZakostelskyLukeParkerno1
29GeelongGeorge StevensGrand Uncle Horace
30CarltonOllie MurphyThe King!
31RichmondArchie Robertsrustycrate
32BrisbaneJoel FreijahTicky009
33EssendonTew JiathCallipygian
34CollingwoodLuamon Luolsr20
35FremantleLance CollardDubai Quacker
36EssendonLogan MorrisCallipygian
37West CoastLachlan CharlsonLukeParkerno1
38BrisbanePatrick SnellTicky009
39St KildaNathan PhilactidesDubai Quacker
40RichmondWill Greenrustycrate
41MelbourneWil DawsonKiama Chris
42GiantsCooper SimpsonMembling
End Round 2
43SydneyJack CallinanThe King!
44FremantleKoen SanchezDubai Quacker
45SydneyAngus HastieThe King!
46West CoastWill PattonLukeParkerno1
47FremantleClay HallDubai Quacker
48EssendonKade de la RueCallipygian
End Round 3
49FremantleJoe FontiDubai Quacker
50RichmondJack Deleanrustycrate
51RichmondHarvey Johnstonrustycrate
52CarltonPhoenix GothardThe King
53Port AdelaideKane McAuliffeBloods86
54CarltonWill BrownThe King
End Round 4
55West CoastWill LorenzLukeParkerno1
56Gold CoastSam Van Rooyenanotherletdown
57Port AdelaideVigo VisentiniBloods86
End Round 5
58Port AdelaideReece TorrentBloods86
 
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Order of Picks


Pick
Club
Player (click on player below, will take you to post)Poster
1Gold Coast (match)Jed Walter (2013 Points)
(Picks 24, 26 and 27 used to match, 203 points remaining)
anotherletdown
2West CoastHarley ReidLukeParkerno1
3North MelbourneDaniel Curtinrobbieando
4North MelbourneConnor O’Sullivanrobbieando
5HawthornColby McKercherSydneyPhilly
6Gold Coast (match)Ethan Read (Points 203 + Picks 34, 38 and 40 used to match, 137 points remaining)anotherletdown
7Hawthorn (match)Will McCabe (F/S Hawthorn)SydneyPhilly
8Western BulldogsJames Leakerobbieando
9MelbourneRyley SandersKiama Chris
10GiantsZane DuursmaMembling
11Western Bulldogs (match)Jordan Croftrobbieando
12GeelongNate CaddyGrand Uncle Horace
13EssendonNick WatsonCallipygian
14AdelaideCaleb WindsorDan87
15MelbourneDarcy WilsonKiama Chris
16Gold Coast (match)Jake Rogers
(969 Points)
(Points 137 + Picks 68, 73 and 774 points from 2024 First)
anotherletdown
17SydneyArie SchoenmakerThe King!
18St KildaKoltyn TholstrupDubai Quacker
19AdelaideCharlie EdwardsDan87
20North MelbourneMitchell Edwardsrobbieando
21GiantsHarry De MattiaMembling
22North MelbourneRiley Hardemanrobbieando
23North MelbourneCaiden Clearyrobbieando
24CollingwoodArcher Reidsr20
25AdelaideTaylor GoadDan87
26St KildaAshton MoirDubai Quacker
27CarltonWill GrahamThe King!
End Round 1
28West CoastZane ZakostelskyLukeParkerno1
29GeelongGeorge StevensGrand Uncle Horace
30CarltonOllie MurphyThe King!
31RichmondArchie Robertsrustycrate
32BrisbaneJoel FreijahTicky009
33EssendonTew JiathCallipygian
34CollingwoodLuamon Luolsr20
35FremantleLance CollardDubai Quacker
36EssendonLogan MorrisCallipygian
37West CoastLachlan CharlsonLukeParkerno1
38BrisbanePatrick SnellTicky009
39St KildaNathan PhilactidesDubai Quacker
40RichmondWill Greenrustycrate
41MelbourneWil DawsonKiama Chris
42GiantsCooper SimpsonMembling
End Round 2
43SydneyJack CallinanThe King!
44FremantleKoen SanchezDubai Quacker
45SydneyAngus HastieThe King!
46West CoastWill PattonLukeParkerno1
47FremantleClay HallDubai Quacker
48EssendonKade de la RueCallipygian
End Round 3
49FremantleJoe FontiDubai Quacker
50RichmondJack Deleanrustycrate
51RichmondHarvey Johnstonrustycrate
52CarltonPhoenix GothardThe King
53Port AdelaideKane McAuliffeBloods86
54CarltonWill BrownThe King
End Round 4
55West CoastWill LorenzLukeParkerno1
56Gold CoastSam Van Rooyenanotherletdown
57Port AdelaideVigo VisentiniBloods86
End Round 5
58Port AdelaideReece TorrentBloods86
Thanks for the summary SP.
 

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I like what Carlton, Freo, Giants and Richmond did with their picks. But, DQ, it seems like you save all your love for Freo - I'm less enchanted by what you did with your Saints picks.

Of course teams like Gold Coast, North, even Hawks, couldn't go wrong and will be grinners.

Well done all. A good way of learning about the draft class.
 
Even if I got stuffed on bids that was fun.

.... is it too late to change my pick. I've decided to match Graham now

Hey I thought shouting you Nandos we called it even lol! On a serious note WCE should bid at 1, this is a ruthless sport make GC pay the premium and honestly why wouldn't you from a list perspective? Just lost Kennedy, Darling on his last season, they actually have mids from last year eg Elijah Hewett, etc. It won't work but bid, make GC pay and if they don't you get the bloke to replace Kennedy for the next 12 years.
 

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Order of Picks


Pick
Club
Player (click on player below, will take you to post)Poster
1Gold Coast (match)Jed Walter (2013 Points)
(Picks 24, 26 and 27 used to match, 203 points remaining)
anotherletdown
2West CoastHarley ReidLukeParkerno1
3North MelbourneDaniel Curtinrobbieando
4North MelbourneConnor O’Sullivanrobbieando
5HawthornColby McKercherSydneyPhilly
6Gold Coast (match)Ethan Read (Points 203 + Picks 34, 38 and 40 used to match, 137 points remaining)anotherletdown
7Hawthorn (match)Will McCabe (F/S Hawthorn)SydneyPhilly
8Western BulldogsJames Leakerobbieando
9MelbourneRyley SandersKiama Chris
10GiantsZane DuursmaMembling
11Western Bulldogs (match)Jordan Croftrobbieando
12GeelongNate CaddyGrand Uncle Horace
13EssendonNick WatsonCallipygian
14AdelaideCaleb WindsorDan87
15MelbourneDarcy WilsonKiama Chris
16Gold Coast (match)Jake Rogers
(969 Points)
(Points 137 + Picks 68, 73 and 774 points from 2024 First)
anotherletdown
17SydneyArie SchoenmakerThe King!
18St KildaKoltyn TholstrupDubai Quacker
19AdelaideCharlie EdwardsDan87
20North MelbourneMitchell Edwardsrobbieando
21GiantsHarry De MattiaMembling
22North MelbourneRiley Hardemanrobbieando
23North MelbourneCaiden Clearyrobbieando
24CollingwoodArcher Reidsr20
25AdelaideTaylor GoadDan87
26St KildaAshton MoirDubai Quacker
27CarltonWill GrahamThe King!
End Round 1
28West CoastZane ZakostelskyLukeParkerno1
29GeelongGeorge StevensGrand Uncle Horace
30CarltonOllie MurphyThe King!
31RichmondArchie Robertsrustycrate
32BrisbaneJoel FreijahTicky009
33EssendonTew JiathCallipygian
34CollingwoodLuamon Luolsr20
35FremantleLance CollardDubai Quacker
36EssendonLogan MorrisCallipygian
37West CoastLachlan CharlsonLukeParkerno1
38BrisbanePatrick SnellTicky009
39St KildaNathan PhilactidesDubai Quacker
40RichmondWill Greenrustycrate
41MelbourneWil DawsonKiama Chris
42GiantsCooper SimpsonMembling
End Round 2
43SydneyJack CallinanThe King!
44FremantleKoen SanchezDubai Quacker
45SydneyAngus HastieThe King!
46West CoastWill PattonLukeParkerno1
47FremantleClay HallDubai Quacker
48EssendonKade de la RueCallipygian
End Round 3
49FremantleJoe FontiDubai Quacker
50RichmondJack Deleanrustycrate
51RichmondHarvey Johnstonrustycrate
52CarltonPhoenix GothardThe King
53Port AdelaideKane McAuliffeBloods86
54CarltonWill BrownThe King
End Round 4
55West CoastWill LorenzLukeParkerno1
56Gold CoastSam Van Rooyenanotherletdown
57Port AdelaideVigo VisentiniBloods86
End Round 5
58Port AdelaideReece TorrentBloods86
If pick 1 is worth 3000 points, after taking the 20% deduction surely it costs 2400 to match, not 2013 as you have shown.
 

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If pick 1 is worth 3000 points, after taking the 20% deduction surely it costs 2400 to match, not 2013 as you have shown.
Doesn't really matter in this case as GC were always going to match the first 3 bids, regardless of the deficit. And then their final pick was going to be a Round 5 (zero point) pick regardless.
 

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