List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part II

bird_man · Sep 17, 2023

kernelT said:
Luke Ball, Tom Lynch, Ben McEvoy, Goddard, Dal Santo, Stanley, Hickey, Acres, Dunstan, Ben Long,

We've got pretty good form for turning early picks or decent players into magic beans that lead us no-where.

Clark, Coffield, Gresham, Billings, Howard - we can't really afford to * these up if we move them on. That's 5 first rounders.

Ben Long isn't very good.

We got a great deal getting a second rounder for him. He was a fringe player at St Kilda and remains average at thr Suns

Joffaboy · Sep 17, 2023

Moorabbin Ghost said:
A bit off topic but what does everybody think of Blake Acres

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Blake Acres

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30

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193cm

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92kg

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Mid

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Last 5

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17.5

4

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8.9

3

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8.6

5

M
3.7

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3.2

5

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1.9

4

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12.7

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5.0

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7.7

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4.0

4

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2.7

4

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1.0

3

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8.2

2

K
3.8

2

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4.4

4

M
1.2

2

T
2.4

4

CL
1.8

4

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3rd rounder for him.

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kernelT · Sep 17, 2023

bird_man said:
Ben Long isn't very good.

We got a great deal getting a second rounder for him. He was a fringe player at St Kilda and remains average at thr Suns

Yeah I was more meaning a decent pick turned into poo. Some bloody good players picked after Long.

bird_man · Sep 17, 2023

kernelT said:
Yeah I was more meaning a decent pick turned into poo. Some bloody good players picked after Long.

Yep, we were all expecting Bolton at that pick that day.

Oh well

kernelT · Sep 17, 2023

bird_man said:
Yep, we were all expecting Bolton at that pick that day.

Oh well

Oh well the saints!

Tommy Wigs · Sep 17, 2023

Armitage2Riewoldt said:
That comment broke me again. So I tracked down this old interview.

Traded - Blake Acres

www.bigfooty.com

'Boys came around - got a bit hectic'

What a beautiful lad.

That threads a crazy trip down memory lane btw. Old posters, ridiculous hype about the 2013 draft and where we were going. Heaps of draft knowledgeable people saying we nailed it.

10 years ago! Get fkd.

I remember jumping in the air off the couch. Alas. We had stinkers two years in a row.

L_W_P · Sep 17, 2023

Moorabbin Ghost said:
A bit off topic but what does everybody think of Blake Acres?

Not as good in the ruck as Longer...

Remboy · Sep 17, 2023

Joffaboy said:
3rd rounder for him.

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Only if they're giving us a second rounder with him.

Bertha · Sep 17, 2023

Diehard Saint said:
No one is comparing Wood to Acres, so not sure where that’s coming from. It’s a separate story.
Fact is though, now you’ve mentioned it, that Wood does not have as long left in his career and in all likelihood won’t be in our premiership team
(unless in the unlikely event we snag one in the next 2 years.)

No one is saying Acres is a star, but he’s definitely playing well, and being a match winner in two consecutive finals can’t just be a fluke.

Err, you can't understand the comparison? Interesting.

And I can't quite understand if you're saying he's not been playing well or he has been playing well - you seem to express both at the same time which is confusing. If you can clarify that would be awesome, thanks.

kernelT · Sep 17, 2023

Remboy said:
Only if they're giving us a second rounder with him.

It wouldn't surprise me if Bell manages to squeeze another pick or two out of us for Hill.

Diehard Saint · Sep 17, 2023

Bertha said:
Err, you can't understand the comparison? Interesting.

And I can't quite understand if you're saying he's not been playing well or he has been playing well - you seem to express both at the same time which is confusing. If you can clarify that would be awesome, thanks.

Err…it’s not so hard.
I was talking Acres, didn’t mention Wood at all in any of my posts until you mentioned him. He actually had nothing to do with any points I mentioned.

Never once did I compare the two. Not sure why you would be confused?

“No one is saying Acres is a star, but he’s definitely playing well.”

Where, exactly, did I express that he’s not playing well?
Why is this italicised bit so difficult to understand?

Bertha · Sep 17, 2023

Diehard Saint said:
Err…it’s not so hard.
I was talking Acres, didn’t mention Wood at all in any of my posts until you mentioned him. He actually had nothing to do with any points I mentioned.

Never once did I compare the two. Not sure why you would be confused?

“No one is saying Acres is a star, but he’s definitely playing well.”

Where, exactly, did I express that he’s not playing well?
Why is this italicised bit so difficult to understand?

Where did I say you did? I was responding to Stav and you starting quoting me, respectfully, what are you going on about? Can I not compare the two seeing as they play the same position? Didn't realise I had to ask your permission or anything I posted was in response to you.

Then you go on to say no one is saying he's a star but he's been the match winner twice in a row can't be a fluke - what are you talking about and where did I accuse people of calling him a star?

Gee whiz, put the drink down mate, you've have enough for one night. You're literally arguing with yourself and dragging me into the fight.

The Cavalry · Sep 17, 2023

Wouldn’t mind having a look at Jackson Mead from Port. Stuck behind Rozee, butters and JHF. Played well in the middle in the SANFL and is a neat user.

Diehard Saint · Sep 17, 2023

Bertha said:
Gee whiz, put the drink down mate, you've have enough for one night. You're literally arguing with yourself and dragging me into the fight.

Jeez, the aggro.
One of us is on the drink, mate, and it’s not me.

I’m moving on here. Have a good night.

kernelT · Sep 17, 2023

This is not a crack at hayes at all, but just interesting to see how our ratings of players can drop from untouchable to tradebait level in a few years… Pou, Owens & Windy seem like our future right now, hopefully we're not pawning them for average picks in 2027

SaintsSeptember · Sep 17, 2023

Looking at Collingwood's main playing group.
2022 Tom Mitchell, 30, TRADE with pick 25 for Oliver Henry. Bobby Hill, 22, Trade for 2023 second round pick. McStay 28 F/A
2021 Nick Daicos. Draft F/S pick 4 Ash Johnson 26, mid season draft. Lipinski 25, Trade for late pick.
2020 Beau McCreery 22, Draft late pick. Ginnivan 20, Rookie draft.
2019 John Noble , 26 Mid Season Rookie.
2018 Issac Quaynor 23 Draft NGA ( first round )
2017 Nathan Murphey 23, Draft Pick 39
2016 Josh Daicos 24, Draft FS ( pick 57) Brody Mihocek 30, Rookie pick. Darcy Cameron, 28, Draft pick 48.
2015 Oleg Markov 27, Draft late pick. Howe, 31 Trade.
2014 Jack Crisp, 29 traded along with 2 first rounders for Dane Beams. Brayden Maynard, 26, Draft pick 30. Darcy Moore Draft , first round. Degoey 27, Draft pick 5. Mason Cox, 32 Rookie. Frampton 26, Draft late pick.
2013 Taylor Adams 29, swap for older Heath Shaw.
2011 Jamie Elliott, 31 , Prelisted by GWS after playing VFL for Collingwood. Pick 25 for him and Marty Clark. Hoskin-Elliot 30 Draft pick 4.
2008 Sidebottom 32, Draft pick 11.
2005 Scott Pendlebury 35. Draft pick 10

So they have 19 draft picks from 18 years of drafting, inc 2 Father sons, and an NGA, and 4 rookie picks.
One free agent.
4 trades, + the dodgy prelisting thing.

Compare with Saints this year.

Three free agents.
8 Trades .
17 Draft picks from 13 years of drafting , including 2 NGA, and 5 Rookie picks.

Joffaboy · Sep 17, 2023

Acres, like Hill is a big game finals player.

Get over it and move on.

The one caution is this is what happens sometimes when we jump off a player too early.

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moirae42 · Sep 17, 2023

So anyone else thinking that GWS will win the whole damn thing?

gringo2011 · Sep 17, 2023

Jesuswasacarpenter said:
Would you take Whitfield his wage and a high pick?

Yes but you’re more likely to get Haynes or someone on big money with lower output

Dard Ball Get · Sep 17, 2023

moirae42 said:
So anyone else thinking that GWS will win the whole damn thing?

Here’s hoping.

Diehard Saint · Sep 17, 2023

Joffaboy said:
The one caution is this is what happens sometimes when we jump off a player too early.

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This.
My point from the start. And why I’m hoping we retain Coffield.
Now I will move on.

Nutsngum · Sep 17, 2023

Joffaboy said:
Acres, like Hill is a big game finals player.

Get over it and move on.

The one caution is this is what happens sometimes when we jump off a player too early.

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Exactly. This is why its a bit tiring with how quickly some of our players in the 21 - 24 range are written off on here.

Joffaboy · Sep 17, 2023

moirae42 said:
So anyone else thinking that GWS will win the whole damn thing?

I had a feeling when they torched us that they were the total in form team.
With Gonigilio in the team they looked 10% better.
If Briggs is fit and Collingwood are off a fraction as they have been lately, GWS have a huge chance of at least making the big dance.

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Joffaboy · Sep 17, 2023

Nutsngum said:
Exactly. This is why its a bit tiring with how quickly some of our players in the 21 - 24 range are written off on here.

Some turnip said after the finals loss we should trade Phillipou as he had no tools.

FMD I know who the tool was[emoji849]. The kid is 18, should be getting drafted only this year.
Some absolute spanners post on here.

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Jesuswasacarpenter · Sep 17, 2023

moirae42 said:
So anyone else thinking that GWS will win the whole damn thing?

Yep

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