Dev, Prior, Tunstill for Oscar Allen?
They get three young guns and we get an injury riddled tall. Seems a win win to me.
They get three young guns and we get an injury riddled tall. Seems a win win to me.
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KissKiss
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The pseudo priority picks the last two years for very average defenders has been way over the top. I know people will go on about the cap expansion but its completely crazy to be paying guys like McKay and Battle 900k+ a year for several years. Several other players must be looking at them and wanting out the door as they are getting screwed
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I think it shows that either the salary cap is too big or the bulk of footballers are underpaid in comparison to these guys
Free agency shouldn't be getting used to get average footballers way too much money
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Classic AFL not reacting to a problem because they get more content out of it. Caps gone up so there is more $ to throw around - but player salaries didn't immediately increase with the cap increase.
So a player earning 900k in a FA contract now is being compared with player salaries that were negotiated 2-3 years ago, and aren't being benchmarked against what salaries will likely be in future years.
At the end of the day it has hurt us the least of basically anyone, but sucks to be picking just after the saints in the draft this year.
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Elixuh
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That’s very glass half full Tom. On the flip side, st Kilda getting picks in before you means the draft busts will likely be snapped up.
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All these compo picks, FS and academies don’t help trades when you’ll keep getting pushed back.
Eh. Don’t worry about these salaries. It will be the new norm. They’ve just managed themselves extremely well to take full advantage of it. B graders getting paid yesteryears A grade salary. Good on them.
The AFL screwed up in not adjusting the cap compo methodology though big time. Should have had some sort of salary cap price escalation mechanism inserted but it obviously seems they “forgot”.
It looks really bad after the Saint head nodder whinged about all the rorts in the game last night.
The AFL screwed up in not adjusting the cap compo methodology though big time. Should have had some sort of salary cap price escalation mechanism inserted but it obviously seems they “forgot”.
It looks really bad after the Saint head nodder whinged about all the rorts in the game last night.
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Very funny that if we'd lost Clug for $1.4 mill per season he'd generate us pick 21 at this point:
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It's convenient AFL blindness to the problem to allow more trade/FA content. Absolute masters they are.
Problem was very very obvious and predictable last year - as you say they should be scaling up the comparison salaries consistent with teh cap increase.
Is there a risk we go into draft point deficit next year with all of these crazy compo picks? Pick 18 will soon be pick 25.
Apparent they changing up the point values next year? So any deficit points we carry over will be way worse.
All for the Premiership. Worth.
Apparent they changing up the point values next year? So any deficit points we carry over will be way worse.
All for the Premiership. Worth.
Darragh Joyce - Forward material?
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Describing them as guns is a slight
exaggeration Sizey.Didn’t think I’d find someone dumber than Adam Cooney. Turns out he wasn’t even the dumbest one in the room. His offsider walked out, he was that insulted with the deal offered up for Harry McKay 
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.Left field but...what about Taylor Walker? He could definitely fill a hole for a season while Morris develops.
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Already signed up for his superannuation year with the Crows. Need him to stay there too taking up targets and pissing of F*****y so he doesn't re-sign.
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No for a range of reasons
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When I see these band 1 compos get handed out like confetti, I just shake my head and think back on how we missed out with the Rockliff compo back in the day. Also Mc Stay
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I'd take Casboult before Walker. Same age.
The assumption seems to be that Fagan and the Lions are so dumb we have to replace like for like with Joe.
Every Premiership winner in history has every other team in the off season go to work on their style, try to sneak out their mid range players, coaches and medical team to get a piece of the knowledge that wins a premiership. Every Premiership team knows, or should know change is inevitable, change is necessary, if you don't change other teams will have worked you out and just pass you bye.
The lions this year were known for the 'probing' their uncontested marking behind the play until the lazy opposition player was found up the ground then the trigger was pulled and in they went. Late in the season, in the finals, it became necessary to pull the trigger anyway, "helter skelter' became a term associated with Brisbane - just go, go forward and Ashcroft led the way with forward handball and overlap up the corridor with speed.
We will have an even better mid field next year, more confident, more brazen, more speed. To think we are going to bomb it in like a year ago, to play down the line without confidence when the going gets tough like we did 3 years ago - No those times are gone.
Next season we need some tweaking of our game plan. We will have some 'rebuilt' players back (Coleman, Doodee, Big O etc), some kids with more development (Morris and Smith) and some new kids we haven't seen at this level (Ashcroft, Marshall). Many of us over the year underestimated Fagan and said he didn't make changes, but he does, some so subtle we may not see them but look where our midfielders were in the Grand Final they ran so hard into defence, Neal even took a mark on their goal line. Covering Zorko's 'loose checking' was brilliant.
Let's not be stuck on whom can replace Joe, there are no other Byron Bay 'hippies' in the league. Let's think what change we make to not be 'predictable' what different game style will we have the other teams wont have planned for. Everyone says you need an 'interceptor' in your backline, maybe even 2 these days and that is the trade scramble now already - Do You? What if the midfield your playing has a forward handball game and overlaps and they come at you from any angle, they come hard and fast and its no longer about how many inside 50' but is about how many go through on the run or land in the square. We are crap set shots at goal, ok, let's make the majority on the run.
Fagan, I've changed, is brilliant, he is great reader of history and understand the big picture stuff on team success and strategy and he gathers a great team under him that understands an implements. Bottom line, I think Joe's retirement, sad as it is, is actually a good thing, we must now change, can change and be unpredictable for the start of 2025.
Every Premiership winner in history has every other team in the off season go to work on their style, try to sneak out their mid range players, coaches and medical team to get a piece of the knowledge that wins a premiership. Every Premiership team knows, or should know change is inevitable, change is necessary, if you don't change other teams will have worked you out and just pass you bye.
The lions this year were known for the 'probing' their uncontested marking behind the play until the lazy opposition player was found up the ground then the trigger was pulled and in they went. Late in the season, in the finals, it became necessary to pull the trigger anyway, "helter skelter' became a term associated with Brisbane - just go, go forward and Ashcroft led the way with forward handball and overlap up the corridor with speed.
We will have an even better mid field next year, more confident, more brazen, more speed. To think we are going to bomb it in like a year ago, to play down the line without confidence when the going gets tough like we did 3 years ago - No those times are gone.
Next season we need some tweaking of our game plan. We will have some 'rebuilt' players back (Coleman, Doodee, Big O etc), some kids with more development (Morris and Smith) and some new kids we haven't seen at this level (Ashcroft, Marshall). Many of us over the year underestimated Fagan and said he didn't make changes, but he does, some so subtle we may not see them but look where our midfielders were in the Grand Final they ran so hard into defence, Neal even took a mark on their goal line. Covering Zorko's 'loose checking' was brilliant.
Let's not be stuck on whom can replace Joe, there are no other Byron Bay 'hippies' in the league. Let's think what change we make to not be 'predictable' what different game style will we have the other teams wont have planned for. Everyone says you need an 'interceptor' in your backline, maybe even 2 these days and that is the trade scramble now already - Do You? What if the midfield your playing has a forward handball game and overlaps and they come at you from any angle, they come hard and fast and its no longer about how many inside 50' but is about how many go through on the run or land in the square. We are crap set shots at goal, ok, let's make the majority on the run.
Fagan, I've changed, is brilliant, he is great reader of history and understand the big picture stuff on team success and strategy and he gathers a great team under him that understands an implements. Bottom line, I think Joe's retirement, sad as it is, is actually a good thing, we must now change, can change and be unpredictable for the start of 2025.
Trade Radio is that shit that they mentioned Tom Hawkins yesterday.
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The other guy on our list who I haven't seen mentioned much as far as a rejigging of our playing style with Joe retiring is Bruce Reville.... showed some awesome signs this season when fit.
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I think those suggesting we go smaller probably don't realise how small we are already. Replace Joe in the GF team with a small and we basically only have 4 genuine KPPs or rucks
What if one of them gets injured?
What if one of them gets injured?
Didn’t think I’d find someone dumber than Adam Cooney. Turns out he wasn’t even the dumbest one in the room. His offsider walked out, he was that insulted with the deal offered up for Harry McKay
I heard it like his offsider thought that was too low of an offer and that's why he was pissed.
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