List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[Dalions]

Yes, but my point is that it is quite likely no one will be that hungry for pick 27 at that very early stage on draft night.
Of course, i am on the outside, the club may know someone will do a deal very early.

We will go into the draft, like last year, with a trade already organised and will probably make that trade before pick 1 is announced.

 

[dlanod]

So we have 27, 34, 42, 43, 49, 60, 66

We have spots from Daniher, Lyons, Sharp, Michael, Madden, Lane (rookie)
We also haven't signed Prior, Beecken (rookie), Craven (rookie)

So including Prior we have 6 list spots which covers pick 27 to 60 at this stage.
If Dev goes then we'll have 66 or an earlier pick also in play.

You haven't factored in that we were effectively three above the limit to start with because of the MSD picks...

 

[JasRulz63]

We now have 2,531 points.

If Levi is bid on at 2 and Marshall at 19 we need 2,772 points.

I think our list management team have got us covered.

In the end, our moves today added 60 points plus (hopefully) a R3 upgrade next year in exchange for Sharp.

If we go back to back and Ess win the spoon, it's especially like we traded away our F3 instead of F2 .

 

[mpal6]

You haven't factored in that we were effectively three above the limit to start with because of the MSD picks...

MSDs would be rookies right.
I thought they won't count against the main list vacancies.

 

[mpal6]

We still have Dev going to West Coast in play too.

We might do a pick 26 for Dev + 43 if we choose to be real nice, taking a ~+350 points
Or we could also do a pick 26 for Dev + 49 and take a ~+430 points

 

[M Malice]

You would think we would be keeping Luke Beecken, not so sure about Darcy Craven.... when are we likely to find out what is happening with them?

 

[Helicon1]

In the end, our moves today added 60 points plus (hopefully) a R3 upgrade next year in exchange for Sharp.

If we go back to back and Ess win the spoon, it's especially like we traded away our F3 instead of F2 .

Deathriding Essendon. That’s something I can get onboard with!!

 

[mpal6]

You would think we would be keeping Luke Beecken, not so sure about Darcy Craven.... when are we likely to find out what is happening with them?

Not 100% on the timeline to be honest, but post draft once we know the available free spots - I think we are allowed to upgrade our rookies direct to the main list if we want to.

 

[Dalions]

We still have Dev going to West Coast in play too.

We might do a pick 26 for Dev + 43 if we choose to be real nice, taking a ~+350 points
Or we could also do a pick 26 for Dev + 49 and take a ~+430 points

Probably more likely a later pick for points next year?

 

[Perrip]

You would think we would be keeping Luke Beecken, not so sure about Darcy Craven.... when are we likely to find out what is happening with them?

Should be sometime after the trade period but before the draft, I think.

 

[irel]

We need an "Operation Essendon for Premiers" thread.

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[M Malice]

Bombers up to date days since they last won a final >

From and including: Saturday, 4 September 2004
To, but not including Tuesday, 15 October 2024

Result: 7346 days​

It is 7346 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date.

Or 20 years, 1 month, 11 days excluding the end date.

Or 241 month, 11 days excluding the end date.

Alternative time units​

7346 days can be converted to one of these units:

• 634,694,400 seconds
• 10,578,240 minutes
• 176,304 hours
• 7346 days
• 1049 weeks and 3 days

 

[LionKing]

We could look at trading pick 27 (703 points) to St Kilda for picks 32 (584) and 47 (316).

Saints move up 5 spots and finish up with picks 7, 8, 27 and 45 and the lions get another 197 points.

… and we still have the Dev trade to negotiate

 

[irel]

We could look at trading pick 27 (703 points) to St Kilda for picks 32 (584) and 47 (316).

Saints move up 5 spots and finish up with picks 7, 8, 27 and 45 and the lions get another 197 points.

… and we still have the Dev trade to negotiate

We can't trade for pick 32.

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[dlanod]

MSDs would be rookies right.
I thought they won't count against the main list vacancies.

Senior lists compose of 36-38 players. Rookie lists can then be 6 players if you have 36 seniors, down to 4 if you have 38 seniors, plus up to two Cat B rookies on top of that - though you don't need to fill all the spots.

At the beginning of the season we had our maximum 38 seniors and six rookies. We then added three more rookies - so we've delisted Lane but still need to promote/redraft a few more to keep our current list. So it's easier to think in terms of how many total spots we have, given we need to account for those excess rookies and any promotions will take picks off our total.

 

[LionKing]

We can't trade for pick 32.

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Oops you’re right mate - should have researched a bit further back. Didn’t realise we gave saints pick 32 and 45 for pick 27

 

[dlanod]

Bombers up to date days since they last won a final >

From and including: Saturday, 4 September 2004
To, but not including Tuesday, 15 October 2024

Result: 7346 days​

It is 7346 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date.

Or 20 years, 1 month, 11 days excluding the end date.

Or 241 month, 11 days excluding the end date.

Alternative time units​

7346 days can be converted to one of these units:

• 634,694,400 seconds
• 10,578,240 minutes
• 176,304 hours
• 7346 days
• 1049 weeks and 3 days

So now we know what will finally break that run. A third round pick, it looks so small and harmless!

 

[Perrip]

7 News Brisbane just now: the Lions are enquiring about 3-4 players for a Joe replacement. Sam Day

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from the SUNS was the only one the presenter specifically mentioned.

 

[Dalions]

We could look at trading pick 27 (703 points) to St Kilda for picks 32 (584) and 47 (316).

Saints move up 5 spots and finish up with picks 7, 8, 27 and 45 and the lions get another 197 points.

… and we still have the Dev trade to negotiate

Can’t trade 27 back to Sts

 

[LionKing]

Can’t trade 27 back to Sts

Yeah my bad - didnt realise we gave saints pick 32 and 45 for pick 27

I’ll see myself out ….

 

[M Malice]

7 News Brisbane just now: the Lions are enquiring about 3-4 players for a Joe replacement. Sam Day from the SUNS was the only one the presenter specifically mentioned.

I'm pissed he didn't mention Ty Gallop.

 

[LoganMorrisFan]

I'm pissed he didn't mention Ty Gallop.

Ty who?

 

[blueiris]

7 News Brisbane just now: the Lions are enquiring about 3-4 players for a Joe replacement. Sam Day from the SUNS was the only one the presenter specifically mentioned.

was that Brisbane news nothing was mentioned in Melbourne

 

[M Malice]

Ty who?

He's an academy tall forward who played 1 VFL game for us this season in the finals, didn't get much of the ball but looked pretty handy, hard at it crashes packs and can clunk a mark.

 

[briztoon]

Yes it is.
There's few ways but one way is once we match Ashcroft, we trade back into the draft using available picks and future picks, such as trading future first into this draft.

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It’s not possible to use 27 + something to get ahead of the Marshall bid, which is what M Malice was speculating.